Tony Romo - A Football Life

[shabazz]

How we’ve not gotten to at least a single NFC Championship game with Dak, Tony and some talented rosters is inexplicable

 

[nyc-cowboy]

How we’ve not gotten to at least a single NFC Championship game with Dak, Tony and some talented rosters is inexplicable

It was not so much about the roster, it was about the culture, coaching and being mentally weak - see the first two.

 

[shabazz]

It was not so much about the roster, it was about the culture, coaching and being mentally weak - see the first two.

That’s true as well……having bad luck like the “No Catch” game against the Packers was another obstacle

what could go wrong all those years,……. did go wrong

But than we see the Bengals with decades of futility suddenly turn it around once Mr Joe Burrow came on board

 

[irishline]

Kyle Orton was the QB in the Philadelphia game you are referencing from 2013.

Yes he did choke sometimes, not going to say he didn't, but he didn't even play in that game.

 

[irishline]

This has kind of turned into another Dak vs. Romo thread. I like both so not going down that road. All I have to say about them is this. Sure neither has gotten us to a Supebowl (which sucks), but I would rather debate between a QB who went 78-49 for us vs. one who went 61-36 any day of the week over the good old Carter vs. Hutchinson or Hutchinson vs. Henson debates we had before Romo and Dak.

They aren't Staubach or Aikman, or even White or Meredith (for that matter), but both are/have dealing/dealt with circumstances none of those guys had to (mgmt). Just ashame some feel the need to tear one down to build the other up.

 

[starfan1]

This has kind of turned into another Dak vs. Romo thread. I like both so not going down that road. All I have to say about them is this. Sure neither has gotten us to a Supebowl (which sucks), but I would rather debate between a QB who went 78-49 for us vs. one who went 61-36 any day of the week over the good old Carter vs. Hutchinson or Hutchinson vs. Henson debates we had before Romo and Dak.

They aren't Staubach or Aikman, or even White or Meredith (for that matter), but both are/have dealing/dealt with circumstances none of those guys had to (mgmt). Just ashame some feel the need to tear one down to build the other up.

Yep and they did it under Garrett and Jones

 

[removed_20241105]

He really was, and I think he'd have gotten us a title if not for some very unfortunate moments, such as Green Bay in 2014.

This has kind of turned into another Dak vs. Romo thread. I like both so not going down that road. All I have to say about them is this. Sure neither has gotten us to a Supebowl (which sucks), but I would rather debate between a QB who went 78-49 for us vs. one who went 61-36 any day of the week over the good old Carter vs. Hutchinson or Hutchinson vs. Henson debates we had before Romo and Dak.

They aren't Staubach or Aikman, or even White or Meredith (for that matter), but both are/have dealing/dealt with circumstances none of those guys had to (mgmt). Just ashame some feel the need to tear one down to build the other up.

 

[DallasEast]

Some people are still mentioning Cabo as a negative, an event that held zero consequence upon the divisional game.

 

[SultanOfSix]

There hasn’t been a player in franchise history that fans have made more excuses for than Romo.

There hasn't been a player in franchise history that fans have blamed more than Romo.

Wow. See how easy that was?

If that's all you got from my post.

 

[KJJ]

There hasn't been a player in franchise history that fans have blamed more than Romo.

Wow. See how easy that was?

If that's all you got from my post.

All you did was make excuses for Romo. QBs always get the most blame it’s the nature of the position. Don Meredith received most of the blame from the fans which caused him to retire. It certainly wasn’t all Romo’s fault but he had his warts. Seldom are QBs going to be blessed with a perfect team. We had a complete enough team in 07 and 2014 to win it all with Romo. Even the 09 team was good enough to win 11 games and beat the 13-0 Saints on the road. That team was good enough to finish the regular season with back to back shutouts.

 

[mattjames2010]

they were so washed up they made pro bowls thats what im saying in fact i think gurode made one in 2010 and 2009 , Davis in 2009 as well. the exact line you used was below should be burger flippers so it wasnt grocery clerks my bad. I never said you said he had a bad line thats your projecting. Ill give you 2011-13 was trash but they actually started to improve after tyron was picked. 14-18 we had the best line in football.

More excuses thats all they are at least thats what I hear when similar things are thrown out for dak.Is tyron aging. did Tfred regress from his sickness? does he miss time? were we ranked in the 20s for pass protection? Did daks receiving corps settle at the bottom of the league in separation? Were we at the bottom of the league in terms penalties committed and did it not come back to bite us in the playoffs agains the niners? you see those are facts as well or they excuses because i said them?

The back and forth has gone on long enough with these 2 decent QBs the problem is in the press box.

Who gives a crap about probowls? You are the one revising history here, everyone who actually watched games in 2009 knew Romo was running for his life. Adams almost single handedly lost the game for us against the Vikings. He couldn't block for crap. The entire offensive line got exposed in the most important game of the season and as I said, there is a reason Romo was running for his life that season and still got sacked 34 times.

And no, I was talking about burger flippers AFTER we rid of the aging vets. We all know Adam, Gurode, and Davis were once good offensive lineman - they weren't good in 2009. You apparently didn't watch a game that season.

 

[starfan1]

Who gives a crap about probowls? You are the one revising history here, everyone who actually watched games in 2009 knew Romo was running for his life. Adams almost single handedly lost the game for us against the Vikings. He couldn't block for crap. The entire offensive line got exposed in the most important game of the season and as I said, there is a reason Romo was running for his life that season and still got sacked 34 times.

And no, I was talking about burger flippers AFTER we rid of the aging vets. We all know Adam, Gurode, and Davis were once good offensive lineman - they weren't good in 2009. You apparently didn't watch a game that season.

I watched the team win 12 games so they obviously were good enough to win division with 2 lineman making the pro bowl. I watched them go into NO and beat a damn good undefeated team

According to many in here PRO bowl lineman are standard to be used as a reason that Dak should have had more success

but I agree 2010 to 12 the line was horrible next time say AFTER vets left and you will be understood

You can talk till the cows come You aren’t going to convince me or others that Romo was anything more than he was.Tony Romo was nothing more than a good to at times great qb who was failed by this crappy GM.

Just like Dak has been

 

[big dog cowboy]

Some people are still mentioning Cabo as a negative, an event that held zero consequence upon the divisional game.

Really bad optics though. There is a reason he has said that was a bad idea.

 

[SultanOfSix]

All you did was make excuses for Romo. QBs always get the most blame it’s the nature of the position. Don Meredith received most of the blame from the fans which caused him to retire. It certainly wasn’t all Romo’s fault but he had his warts. Seldom are QBs going to be blessed with a perfect team. We had a complete enough team in 07 and 2014 to win it all with Romo. Even the 09 team was good enough to win 11 games and beat the 13-0 Saints on the road. That team was good enough to finish the regular season with back to back shutouts.

I don't think you know what the definition of "excuse" is. And really, who cares if QBs get the blame from the standard ignorant fan? The general fan knows little about the intricacies of the game. It's why they buy into irrelevant media BS about chemistry and vacations, much of it catering to the lowest levels of fan IQs and their biases.

Every QB has his warts. And no one said anything about a "perfect" team. Where did all these strawmen come from?

We did have complete team in 2007 if it was healthy, which it was not. The team had an injured and hobbled TO and scrub defensive backs who gave up a TD in under less than thirty seconds at the end of the first half from the other side of the field.

Having a "good enough" team to win 11 games to beat an undefeated team doesn't mean that they were SB worthy. "Any given Sunday". In 1991, the Cowboys walked into RFK and beat an undefeated Red-Derma team that went on to win the SB, but they still were blown out by the Lions in the playoffs.

 

[KJJ]

I don't think you know what the definition of "excuse" is. And really, who cares if QBs get the blame from the standard ignorant fan? The general fan knows little about the intricacies of the game. It's why they buy into irrelevant media BS about chemistry and vacations, much of it catering to the lowest levels of fan IQs and their biases.

Every QB has his warts. And no one said anything about a "perfect" team. Where did all these strawmen come from?

We did have complete team in 2007 if it was healthy, which it was not. The team had an injured and hobbled TO and scrub defensive backs who gave up a TD in under less than thirty seconds at the end of the first half from the other side of the field.

Having a "good enough" team to win 11 games to beat an undefeated team doesn't mean that they were SB worthy. "Any given Sunday". In 1991, the Cowboys walked into RFK and beat an undefeated Red-Derma team that went on to win the SB, but they still were blown out by the Lions in the playoffs.

You continue to make excuses. The Cowboys were healthy enough in 07, they just didn’t play well in the playoffs. You keep talking about TO being injured, but he caught 4 passes for 49 yards and a touchdown against the Giants. Romo didn’t play well in that game, he only completed 50% of his passes. The Cowboys were inside the Giants 25 yard line in the closing seconds and he threw an INT in the endzone to close the game. Philly won a Super Bowl with their backup QB a few years ago after they lost their starter who was having an MVP year. Were they completely healthy? KC who won the Super Bowl this past season with an injured Mahomes. Were they completely healthy? No team is completely healthy in January/Feb. Stop with the excuses!

 

[Cowboys5217]

How we’ve not gotten to at least a single NFC Championship game with Dak, Tony and some talented rosters is inexplicable

It's because Romo and Dak are overrated. Put them both in a previous era without pampered QBs and they would have stunk outright.

 

[SultanOfSix]

You continue to make excuses. The Cowboys were healthy enough in 07, they just didn’t play well in the playoffs. You keep talking about TO being injured, but he caught 4 passes for 49 yards and a touchdown against the Giants. Romo didn’t play well in that game, he only completed 50% of his passes. The Cowboys were inside the Giants 25 yard line in the closing seconds and he threw an INT in the endzone to close the game. Philly won a Super Bowl with their backup QB a few years ago after they lost their starter who was having an MVP year. Were they completely healthy? KC who won the Super Bowl this past season with an injured Mahomes. Were they completely healthy? No team is completely healthy in January/Feb. Stop with the excuses!

4 passes for 49 yards from a future HOF receiver is your example of being healthy enough to win the game? Give me a break. No, they obviously weren't healthy enough, especially in the defensive backfield, because they lost to a team that they beat twice in the regular season. And at least the team and Romo has the excuse that they lost to the eventual SB champions, the defense of which was on fire during that run, defeating the only other team that had the possibility for an undefeated season in the SB. That interception you point out that Romo didn't do enough is just garbage and has been rebutted many times over. It was desperation heave on 4th down to the endzone from over 20 yards away in the last seconds of the game. What about the Crayton dropped pass on a slant and blitz where he had only one person between him and the end zone earlier in the game? What about the Crayton stutter step on the prior pass before the interception for no reason on a perfectly thrown pass that he would've caught in the end zone if he didn't do that? You say I make excuses for Romo, but you deny the plays that he made that were enough to win that either didn't happen or were overturned, e.g., Dez's catch against Green Bay. That is you primarily putting the blaming him for the game when it wasn't his fault. Unlike Dak whose horrible play blew the SF game this year. There's not a single playoff game in Romo's tenure where he can be primarily blamed for the loss. Other teams winning championships for whatever reason years later have nothing to do with why this team didn't. They are completely different contexts.

 

[Captain-Crash]

4 passes for 49 yards from a future HOF receiver is your example of being healthy enough to win the game? Give me a break. No, they obviously weren't healthy enough, especially in the defensive backfield, because they lost to a team that they beat twice in the regular season. And at least the team and Romo has the excuse that they lost to the eventual SB champions, the defense of which was on fire during that run, defeating the only other team that had the possibility for an undefeated season in the SB. That interception you point out that Romo didn't do enough is just garbage and has been rebutted many times over. It was desperation heave on 4th down to the endzone from over 20 yards away in the last seconds of the game. What about the Crayton dropped pass on a slant and blitz where he had only one person between him and the end zone earlier in the game? What about the Crayton stutter step on the prior pass before the interception for no reason on a perfectly thrown pass that he would've caught in the end zone if he didn't do that? You say I make excuses for Romo, but you deny the plays that he made that were enough to win that either didn't happen or were overturned, e.g., Dez's catch against Green Bay. That is you primarily putting the blaming him for the game when it wasn't his fault. Unlike Dak whose horrible play blew the SF game this year. There's not a single playoff game in Romo's tenure where he can be primarily blamed for the loss. Other teams winning championships for whatever reason years later have nothing to do with why this team didn't. They are completely different contexts.

 

[CouchCoach]

Some people are still mentioning Cabo as a negative, an event that held zero consequence upon the divisional game.

Agree but it provided the media and some anti Romo fans all they needed just like his playing golf. The man threw the football every day trying to develop a connection with it to finally do so toward the end of his career but his anti fans used golf as a reason he wasn't devoting enough time to football.

We have no idea what any other NFL player did during the bye week leading up to the SB but him.

But the dumbest and worst part of it was they laid the loss on his trip to Cabo instead of one of the best playoff runs in the history of the NFL by the Giants. They took on everyone including the homefield team at home and ended up giving a team headed to history their only loss.

I only mentioned Cabo because it is part of the story and always will be,

 

[KJJ]

4 passes for 49 yards from a future HOF receiver is your example of being healthy enough to win the game? Give me a break. No, they obviously weren't healthy enough, especially in the defensive backfield, because they lost to a team that they beat twice in the regular season. And at least the team and Romo has the excuse that they lost to the eventual SB champions, the defense of which was on fire during that run, defeating the only other team that had the possibility for an undefeated season in the SB. That interception you point out that Romo didn't do enough is just garbage and has been rebutted many times over. It was desperation heave on 4th down to the endzone from over 20 yards away in the last seconds of the game. What about the Crayton dropped pass on a slant and blitz where he had only one person between him and the end zone earlier in the game? What about the Crayton stutter step on the prior pass before the interception for no reason on a perfectly thrown pass that he would've caught in the end zone if he didn't do that? You say I make excuses for Romo, but you deny the plays that he made that were enough to win that either didn't happen or were overturned, e.g., Dez's catch against Green Bay. That is you primarily putting the blaming him for the game when it wasn't his fault. Unlike Dak whose horrible play blew the SF game this year. There's not a single playoff game in Romo's tenure where he can be primarily blamed for the loss. Other teams winning championships for whatever reason years later have nothing to do with why this team didn't. They are completely different contexts.

You left out the TD Owens scored. He contributed enough for us to win that game, but Romo was off and our defense couldn’t make critical 3rd down stops. According to you the Cowboys need everything to be perfect for them to win a championship. They need a perfect team and everyone has to be 100% healthy. Lol There’s been teams win championships missing key players. The Packers won the Super Bowl in 2010 with at least 10 players on IR. Aaron Rodgers carved us up in the playoffs in 2014 on one leg. The Cowboys had all their key players in the game against the Giants, including Terry Glenn who hadn’t played all season. We were more shorthanded the two times we played the Giants during the regular season, but it didn’t stop Romo from tossing 8 TD passes.

The INT Romo threw in the endzone on 4th down in the final seconds may have been a desperation throw but he had three other downs prior to that, and he couldn’t do anything with them. The Cowboys had first and 10 from the Giants 22 and Romo couldn’t come through. I never put all the blame on him but he was clearly part of the blame along with our defense. We hardly laid a hand on Eli. As for Patrick Crayton’s drop that’s part of football. What ultimately cost us that game was Romo not being sharp and our defense not being able to make stops. Against Minnesota in the playoffs in 2009 Romo was terrible! He had three turnovers in that game, and our defense was also terrible. If you want to keep making excuses, go ahead.