Tony Romo - A Football Life

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He got better every year. Had a great O-Line for a while. 2016 was supposed to put it all together. Our Defense was not up to snuff. And he went down trying to run with it in preseason.
 

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Man, it's crazy what a warrior that dude was. I never understood the hate to be honest.
we all know that some disliked him for inexplicable reasons but most of his detractors have pointed to the untimely interceptions and his 2-4 play-off record.

some of us knew that his offensive line was a sieve most seasons , and his defense was Swiss cheese and he had to force the ball .

But , just like Dak, quarterbacks have to take the responsibility for play-off performances.
 

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Some of the Romo lovers have tried to spin that he never had good teams. They’ll tell you that if he had the teams Dak had the Cowboys would’ve won several Super Bowls. Lol
No, he never had a complete team. There's a difference. If the defense was good for the year, the offensive line was just average and became atrocious when it mattered (The 2011 season and the Minnesota playoff game). The best team he had was 2007, but the offense was hamstrung by TO being injured in the playoffs and they lost to the eventual SB champions. 2014 was a good team (he had an MVP-like season), but the defense was average and the totality of the team not as good as 2007 relatively speaking, but then the team was screwed over by the worst overturned non-reception call I've ever witnessed. 2016 could've been a possibility to be his best team ever but then he was injured and Dak stepped in. And for most of his career his head coach was the red-headed stepchild Garrett who is barely an average coach if that, and Jerry still being hands on in everything without Will McClay until near the end of his career.

The context of Romo's play within the teams and the organizational decisions significantly matter since it's always been an organizational effort to win a SB.
 
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No, he never had a complete team. There's a difference. If the defense was good for the year, the offensive line was just average and became atrocious when it mattered (The 2011 season and the Minnesota playoff game). The best team he had was 2007, but the offense was hamstrung by TO being injured in the playoffs and they lost to the eventual SB champions. 2014 was a good team (he had an MVP-like season), but the defense was average and the totality of the team not as good as 2007 relatively speaking, but then the team was screwed over by the worst overturned non-reception call I've ever witnessed. 2016 could've been a possibility to be his best team ever but then he was injured and Dak stepped in. And for most of his career his head coach was the red-headed stepchild Garrett who is barely an average coach if that, and Jerry still being hands on in everything without Will McClay until near the end of his career.

The context of Romo's play within the teams and the organizational decisions significantly matter since it's always been an organizational effort to win a SB.
Organizational effort.. well said! It takes 53 plus a smart front office and quality coaching.

2007 was the crossroads. A team on the rise spent only one year there! lol
Once the Garrett, Phillips clown show arrived rushing TDs declined, a defense creating turnovers progressively declined. The o line went to crap. People rather just pretend that some of the absolute worst team management you can dream possible never happened.
 

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Now he had a good line for 3 years and they werent grocery store clerks ? What you call context i call excuses. Romo had legitimate shots in 07,09,14 and he was part of a failed attempt. I will agree that he had about 3 years of garbage in front of him blocking but Dak gets roasted for his lack of success so should romo. I can come up with reasons why Dak failed too. The biggest one sits in the press box. its just not worth the bandwidth going back and forth with you excuse makers.

If Dak is a loser so is tony. I myself think they are both flawed but their failures are team problems not individual ones. Now Im off to see my spelling tutor because you know i want to make sure i dont misspell or typo words on a message board. I may drive someone into counseling

Good day fellow fan lets see what 2023 saga will write for us.
They had no shot at all in 2009..
 

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Those 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009 rosters were very strong. Especially 2007 that roster was STACKED
They were on the rise with Parcells and on the decline without him. A stacked roster assembled by BP that disappeared.. yet no playoff appearance in 2008 and a complete undressing in 2009.. they weren’t that stacked.
 

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They were on the rise with Parcells and on the decline without him. A stacked roster assembled by BP that disappeared.. yet no playoff appearance in 2008 and a complete undressing in 2009.. they weren’t that stacked.
Just because they underachieved doesn’t mean the roster didn’t have a lot of talented players.

A lot of talented chokers too. That’s how the cowboys roll.
 

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Just because they underachieved doesn’t mean the roster didn’t have a lot of talented players.

A lot of talented chokers too. That’s how the cowboys roll.
They had talent but the GM doesn’t just stop working at that point which is basically what happened. The talent brought in by BP and then the nonexistent garbage after which is why the team was a complete mess within 3 years. A championship roster needs a constant cycle of improvement and quality decision making. 1 nice big step forward with Parcells and 5 huge steps backwards with Jerry. They didn’t just underachieve they slowly wilted. That’s what happens when the GM is pure crap.
 
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No, he never had a complete team. There's a difference. If the defense was good for the year, the offensive line was just average and became atrocious when it mattered (The 2011 season and the Minnesota playoff game). The best team he had was 2007, but the offense was hamstrung by TO being injured in the playoffs and they lost to the eventual SB champions. 2014 was a good team (he had an MVP-like season), but the defense was average and the totality of the team not as good as 2007 relatively speaking, but then the team was screwed over by the worst overturned non-reception call I've ever witnessed. 2016 could've been a possibility to be his best team ever but then he was injured and Dak stepped in. And for most of his career his head coach was the red-headed stepchild Garrett who is barely an average coach if that, and Jerry still being hands on in everything without Will McClay until near the end of his career.

The context of Romo's play within the teams and the organizational decisions significantly matter since it's always been an organizational effort to win a SB.
There hasn’t been a player in franchise history that fans have made more excuses for than Romo.
 

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I was a big fan of Romo. Sure, he could be a bit of a gunslinger, but he could move the ball down the field. Seemed every season he was getting better. He just seemed to have all the bad luck and got no good breaks in his career. From a botched snap, crappy coaching tree after Parcells, working for Jerry Jones, refs, bad defenses, and a bad back......he never seemed to get any of the good breaks.

One of his last full games he played before his back took him out for good, the opener in 2015 against the Giants, he got the ball back with 1:34. I remember feeling confident he could drive the ball and score.....and he did.

I'll always be a Romo fan. My flag is planted firmly on that hill.
 

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There is no QB that I have enjoyed watching more than Romo and that incudes Favre and Staubach.

We were on a journey with Tony Romo. It started with so little respect that he was invited to the Combine to throw to the TE's. Little did we know at the time how that set the wheels in motion for when he became the DC QB.

The bobbled ball, Cabo, the "if this is the worst thing that ever happens to me, I will have had a good life" line, the dating celebrity chicks, golf, wearing his cap backwards and that goofy grin all were weaved around the most polarized pro athlete in all sports at that time.

Talk about being on the edge of your seat. 4th Q, Cowboys need a score and Romo is taking the team down the field. Every time he releases the ball I would involuntarily close my eyes because with Romo, anything could happen.

It didn't even bother me when he finally learned how to do his press conferences, give them nothing,
 

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Just because they underachieved doesn’t mean the roster didn’t have a lot of talented players.

A lot of talented chokers too. That’s how the cowboys roll.
We have to acknowledge that the team on the sideline in the 2007 playoff game was not the same stacked team that rolled through the regular season.

The best receiver was limping and they had to resort to playing a bum or two in the secondary.

In 2009 the overrated o-line was exposed by the fierce Vikings pass rush. Once Flozell tapped out after being embarrassed over and over, it was pretty much over.
 

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they made the playoffs they had a shot. May not have been as good as 14 but they had one.
Making the playoffs, getting embarrassed and then unraveling completely in 2010 should tell you there was nothing legitimate about that team. It quickly became a mess just like it was before Parcells.
 

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Now he had a good line for 3 years and they werent grocery store clerks ? What you call context i call excuses. Romo had legitimate shots in 07,09,14 and he was part of a failed attempt. I will agree that he had about 3 years of garbage in front of him blocking but Dak gets roasted for his lack of success so should romo. I can come up with reasons why Dak failed too. The biggest one sits in the press box. its just not worth the bandwidth going back and forth with you excuse makers.

If Dak is a loser so is tony. I myself think they are both flawed but their failures are team problems not individual ones. Now Im off to see my spelling tutor because you know i want to make sure i dont misspell or typo words on a message board. I may drive someone into counseling

Good day fellow fan lets see what 2023 saga will write for us.
I never suggested he never had a good line. I said he had a bad line for a significant portion of his career - quote where I said he NEVER had a good line. It's well known that the line was aging in 2009 which is why he needed to run all over the place. Romo went from being sacked 24 times in 2007 to 34 times in 2009. From 2011 to 2013 he was sacked 36, 36, and 35 times and that is with him being being great at evading pass rushers. If Romo didn't have that ability, I guarantee he would have been sacked 40+ times in each of those seasons. 2008 we had other issues, the entire team was out of sync and Romo didn't play great after coming back from his injury.

Those aren't excuses. It's a fact. You claimed there was "revisionist history" while you were throwing out names of old washed up lineman like it meant something. You intentionally left out context and I had to provide it for you. As I said, I can keep doing this for you until you man up and admit 1. You argued a point I didn't make 2. Left out context on purpose.
 

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they made the playoffs they had a shot. May not have been as good as 14 but they had one.
We beat an Eagles team in the playoffs that we clearly had their number - the moment we faced a great defense, we saw under the lights how aged our offensive line was and that Romo lacked any weapons outside of Witten and Austin. That stud defense that was shutting out teams and broke the Saints streak also didn't show up and Favre burned them multiple times.
 

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Those 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009 rosters were very strong. Especially 2007 that roster was STACKED
That 2007 roster was completely overrated. Absolute scrubs were voted into the probowl and most were off the team by the time 2009 came around.
 

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We have to acknowledge that the team on the sideline in the 2007 playoff game was not the same stacked team that rolled through the regular season.

The best receiver was limping and they had to resort to playing a bum or two in the secondary.

In 2009 the overrated o-line was exposed by the fierce Vikings pass rush. Once Flozell tapped out after being embarrassed over and over, it was pretty much over.
I agree with you on those points.
 

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I never suggested he never had a good line. I said he had a bad line for a significant portion of his career - quote where I said he NEVER had a good line. It's well known that the line was aging in 2009 which is why he needed to run all over the place. Romo went from being sacked 24 times in 2007 to 34 times in 2009. From 2011 to 2013 he was sacked 36, 36, and 35 times and that is with him being being great at evading pass rushers. If Romo didn't have that ability, I guarantee he would have been sacked 40+ times in each of those seasons. 2008 we had other issues, the entire team was out of sync and Romo didn't play great after coming back from his injury.

Those aren't excuses. It's a fact. You claimed there was "revisionist history" while you were throwing out names of old washed up lineman like it meant something. You intentionally left out context and I had to provide it for you. As I said, I can keep doing this for you until you man up and admit 1. You argued a point I didn't make 2. Left out context on purpose.
they were so washed up they made pro bowls thats what im saying in fact i think gurode made one in 2010 and 2009 , Davis in 2009 as well. the exact line you used was below should be burger flippers so it wasnt grocery clerks my bad. I never said you said he had a bad line thats your projecting. Ill give you 2011-13 was trash but they actually started to improve after tyron was picked. 14-18 we had the best line in football.
Witten was a great TE, but we really lacked great outside players for a good chunk of Romo's career. 2006 and 2007 Owens was great, he was not great in 2008. It was the Miles Austin show in 2009. After that, we didn't have much of anything - Austin's injuries started to pile up and Dez didn't become Dez until the second half of the 2012 season. All of this was with an offensive line made up of rotating should-be burger flippers outside of Smith and an average Doug Free.
More excuses thats all they are at least thats what I hear when similar things are thrown out for dak.Is tyron aging. did Tfred regress from his sickness? does he miss time? were we ranked in the 20s for pass protection? Did daks receiving corps settle at the bottom of the league in separation? Were we at the bottom of the league in terms penalties committed and did it not come back to bite us in the playoffs agains the niners? you see those are facts as well or they excuses because i said them?

The back and forth has gone on long enough with these 2 decent QBs the problem is in the press box.
 
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