Tony Romo among QB's nominated for the HOF

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QUARTERBACKS (10): Marc Bulger, Randall Cunningham, Jake Delhomme, Doug Flutie,
Rich Gannon, Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb, Steve McNair, Tony Romo, Michael Vick.


Wow... how the standards have fallen. There is no one on that list that should even sniff being in the Hall of Fame. I guess now everyone gets a participation bust.
 

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With all due serious respect to Bo 'Knows' Jackson, he was not Gale Sayers in that era of the National Football League. Sayers was more than Jackson. He was Barry Sanders before Barry Sanders.

Some older members may wish to weigh in also. Allow his PFHOF biography (link) speak partially for him:

Gale Sayers burst upon the pro football scene in 1965 with the kind of impact that the sport had not felt in many years. It is difficult to imagine a more dynamic debut than the one he enjoyed as a rookie. In his first heavy pre-season action, he raced 77 yards on a punt return, 93 yards on a kickoff return, and then startled everyone with a 25-yard scoring pass against the Los Angeles Rams.​
In regular season, he scored four touchdowns, including a 96-yard game breaking kickoff return, against the Minnesota Vikings. And, in the next-to-last game, playing on a muddy field that would have stalled most runners, Gale scored a record-tying six touchdowns against the San Francisco 49ers. Included in his sensational spree were an 80-yard pass-run play, a 50-yard rush and a 65-yard punt return. For the entire season, Gale scored 22 touchdowns and 132 points, both then-rookie records.​
Quiet, unassuming, and always ready to compliment a teammate for a key block, Sayers continued to sizzle in 1967 and well into the 1968 season. Then, in the ninth game, Sayers suffered a knee injury that required immediate surgery.
After a tortuous rehabilitation program, Gale came back in 1969 in a most spectacular manner, winding up with his second 1,000-yard rushing season and universal Comeback of the Year honors. But injuries continued to take their toll and, just before the 1972 season, Gale finally had to call it quits.​
In his relatively short career, he compiled a record that can never be forgotten. His totals show 9,435 combined net yards, 4,956 yards rushing, and 336 points scored. At the time of his retirement he was the NFL's all-time leader in kickoff return yards. He won All-NFL honors five straight years and was named Offensive Player of the Game in three of the four Pro Bowls in which he played.​

Forget statistics for a moment. 'Eye test' is an overused term but it perfectly suited Sayers. In an abbreviated career, Sayers awed players, coaches, fans and the Board of Selectors alike into believing he might be the best NFL player of all-time. Jackson was a two-sport freak of nature. Perhaps Jackson might would have fully inspired everyone of his NFL legend if he had dedicated himself to it full-time. People saw glimpses of Jackson's greatness whenever baseball did not interrupt them. Sayers was showcased during his entire career.

I encourage anyone. Research Sayers. Look for old video of him. The man was more than twice the legend of Jackson in his time. The Hall will be lucky to get Jackson one day. The Hall needed players like Sayers to forever validate its existence. That is no exaggeration.
So so sorry and I wholeheartedly disagree the man did not play long enough and put up enough stats he didn't win any rings he didn't win anything he does not belong in the Hall of Fame that's the point you can't hand out awards like that for unfinished incomplete careers.. You can keep posting all the great game he had here there what he looked like I don't care you have to be productive and or win rings or both to get into the Hall of Fame they allowed him in the Hall of Fame on what the possibilities could have been and that is not how the Hall of Fame is set up they made it a popularity contest and it should be about high level elite production and or rings or both put together is an automatic.. There are people here saying that Eli Manning shouldn't get a whole fame bid because he wasn't that great during the regular season but I think he did plenty in their regular season and then you add the two rings in and he should get in the Hall of Fame for that if a guy like GAIL Sayers that had an incomplete career super short there was nothing on his resume that should have screamed Hall of Fame got in there it leaves the door open for guys like Tony Romo or those guys on the list that we saw up there Randall Cunningham and Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick which hurts my heart all three of them are Eagles Oh my God how's that happening...
I just think you're missing my point the man had an incomplete career I don't care what his potential was or if he had some great games and he was lost to injury part of the game is Emmett Smith wasn't as impressive as Barry Sanders or some other running backs but because he and Jason Whitten didn't miss games that's part of it longevity is a very important factor you played that long in the league and put up those kind of numbers and you have some rings that that's how you get in you can't get in by incomplete to be determined type nonsense...

I'm just gonna leave it there because what can argue all day and you're never gonna bring me to your side the man may have had potential it never proved out just like Bo Jackson you can't have one in and not the other because they both have super super projections but they both got injured both couldn't play anymore and that's where it ends for me no Hall of Fame for either one..
 

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Wow... how the standards have fallen. There is no one on that list that should even sniff being in the Hall of Fame. I guess now everyone gets a participation bust.
3X Eagles also just hurt my heart so hope they all minus each other out somehow... By the way I don't think they have to pick somebody in each position do they I mean they can look at all those guys and say Nope not this time??
 

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So so sorry and I wholeheartedly disagree the man did not play long enough and put up enough stats he didn't win any rings he didn't win anything he does not belong in the Hall of Fame that's the point you can't hand out awards like that for unfinished incomplete careers.. You can keep posting all the great game he had here there what he looked like I don't care you have to be productive and or win rings or both to get into the Hall of Fame they allowed him in the Hall of Fame on what the possibilities could have been and that is not how the Hall of Fame is set up they made it a popularity contest and it should be about high level elite production and or rings or both put together is an automatic.. There are people here saying that Eli Manning shouldn't get a whole fame bid because he wasn't that great during the regular season but I think he did plenty in their regular season and then you add the two rings in and he should get in the Hall of Fame for that if a guy like GAIL Sayers that had an incomplete career super short there was nothing on his resume that should have screamed Hall of Fame got in there it leaves the door open for guys like Tony Romo or those guys on the list that we saw up there Randall Cunningham and Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick which hurts my heart all three of them are Eagles Oh my God how's that happening...
I just think you're missing my point the man had an incomplete career I don't care what his potential was or if he had some great games and he was lost to injury part of the game is Emmett Smith wasn't as impressive as Barry Sanders or some other running backs but because he and Jason Whitten didn't miss games that's part of it longevity is a very important factor you played that long in the league and put up those kind of numbers and you have some rings that that's how you get in you can't get in by incomplete to be determined type nonsense...

I'm just gonna leave it there because what can argue all day and you're never gonna bring me to your side the man may have had potential it never proved out just like Bo Jackson you can't have one in and not the other because they both have super super projections but they both got injured both couldn't play anymore and that's where it ends for me no Hall of Fame for either one..
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I'm done.

Are there any members, who actually saw Sayers or know what he meant to the National Football League, want to post anything..? It would only matter to someone who knows like me and would appreciate reading those who knew too.
 

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Romo is NOT a hall of Famer....
Yeah but he stacks up almost evenly with any of those players on the list at quarterback so if one of them can be considered so can he we're talking about just considerations here I don't know if any of them deserve to be in on the quarterback list..
 

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Romo fought toe to toe with the best qbs of his day, many are or will be in hof.
I agree, I'm just not sure that's HOF worthy, or maybe it is I'd just rather see tighter restrictions on who gets in. Just my opinion however I'm not sure a lot of those QBs he went toe to toe with that will be in the HOF should be in the hall. From this generation I'd leave it to the Brady/Mannings/Brees/Rogers types and leave out the Romos/McNabbs/Eli Mannings of the world.
 

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i dont wanna see him in cause that means eli will get in for sure
Check back in two years. Please know that I rarely do proclamations.

At the very least, Eli Manning will reach the semi-finalist round two years from now. I give him an 80% chance of getting enshrined on the first ballot.

Anyone should try understanding the true litmus test for the Hall is enough folks (almost entirely men) fussing and finally agreeing who gets in. No standard check off list has ever been used. Enough people like you? You're in.

What gets Eli into the Hall quickly in my opinion?
  • Leading the Giants to two Super Bowl appearances and victories
  • His family's NFL legacy
  • Playing his entire career in the media capital of the country
  • Having the bulk of Board of Selectors grading him geographically representing teams near New York
The last observation is important. There is nothing like playing or coaching for a franchise located in the Northeast and Midwest when it comes to getting nominated and/or inducted into the Hall.
 

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Now they are just nominating anybody....average to good QBs on that list....Marc Bulger? Romo or any on that list shouldn't get in, the HOF is so watered down as it is.
 

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I don't think he should be in the HOF or the Ring of Honor to be honest. Love the guy. One of the best QB we have had no doubt but he didn't win anything so...

But if it is down to that list of QB, he was better and deserves it as much if not more than any of those QBs. I don't think anyone on that list should be in the HOF though.
 

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Check back in two years. Please know that I rarely do proclamations.

At the very least, Eli Manning will reach the semi-finalist round two years from now. I give him an 80% chance of getting enshrined on the first ballot.

Anyone should try understanding the true litmus test for the Hall is enough folks (almost entirely men) fussing and finally agreeing who gets in. No standard check off list has ever been used. Enough people like you? You're in.

What gets Eli into the Hall quickly in my opinion?
  • Leading the Giants to two Super Bowl appearances and victories
  • His family's NFL legacy
  • Playing his entire career in the media capital of the country
  • Having the bulk of Board of Selectors grading him geographically representing teams near New York
The last observation is important. There is nothing like playing or coaching for a franchise located in the Northeast and Midwest when it comes to getting nominated and/or inducted into the Hall.
You forgot to list Eli's amazing .500 winning record. A true generational achievement.
 
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