Tony Romo gives Dallas a chance to win

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Hoofbite;2965618 said:
No need to make a list. Each has their good moves and each has their bad. We all know the count.
That was my point.
 

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No one can doubt Romo has talent. The problem is that hes not using it to the best of his ability. There seems to be many arguments as to if the leash should be tightened on him or if doing so will take away from his play. You know, because hes a gunslinger and nobody tells a gunslinger to holster his weapon. Thats what got him here. I couldnt care less personally about his stats. This isnt fantasy football. Lets talk wins and loses. Romo has a 5-8 record in the month of December and is 0-2 in the Playoffs. The guy plays out of his mind from Sept-Nov then tanks the last month of the season. The opening home game was NOT a big game. It will not define him as a QB. What does define him and what seems to be the real reason people want him gone as badly as they wanted to see him take over would be what happens after December 1st. I want a SB. The fans want a SB. My man T.O. as misguided and selfish his reasoning may have been wanted a SB. At this point I cant really say if Romo cares and that is why I dont think he will ever get there.
 

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blkmajic88;2965682 said:
No one can doubt Romo has talent. The problem is that hes not using it to the best of his ability. There seems to be many arguments as to if the leash should be tightened on him or if doing so will take away from his play. You know, because hes a gunslinger and nobody tells a gunslinger to holster his weapon. Thats what got him here. I couldnt care less personally about his stats. This isnt fantasy football. Lets talk wins and loses. Romo has a 5-8 record in the month of December and is 0-2 in the Playoffs. The guy plays out of his mind from Sept-Nov then tanks the last month of the season. The opening home game was NOT a big game. It will not define him as a QB. What does define him and what seems to be the real reason people want him gone as badly as they wanted to see him take over would be what happens after December 1st. I want a SB. The fans want a SB. My man T.O. as misguided and selfish his reasoning may have been wanted a SB. At this point I cant really say if Romo cares and that is why I dont think he will ever get there.


Another poster that says they dont care about stats and then immediately post romo's win loss record for one specific month to prove their point.

Why didnt you just say you dont care about stats unless they support your bias?


Have you ever been a part of a "Team"? Do you know that its the team that has a poor record in December? If you want to point to Romo as having a poor record then why not post T Newmans record in December? Why not Marion Barbers record? Hey lets get rid of Witten because he has a 5-8 record in december? No player in any team sport wins or loses by themselves. Go back and look at these 8 losses and you will see that it isnt Romo losing. Its the Cowboys TEAM. If you want to make an argument that its the Coaching then ok. At least that makes some sense. After all it is the coaches job to get the TEAM to play together to win those games.
 

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nathanlt;2965196 said:
Do you remember the long painful years of Quincy Carter, Anthony Wright, Ryan Leaf, Clint Stoerner, Chad Hutchinson, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Henson, and Drew Bledsoe?

It took that many tries to find a quarterback that gives us a chance to win. Let's not go backward, let's stick with Romo and let him get better!!!


Having a chance to win against ANYBODY, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME is all you can ask for.

Nobody can debate that he is far superior to any of those guys.

Unfortunately he has games like those guys from time to time. Those guys werent really capable of doing better, we know Romo is. He's just gotta focus better and learn that sometimes an incomplete pass or even a sack is not a bad play. An interception is a bad play. If he'd have went 13/29 for 130 yds but thrown no picks, we'd have won the other night.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2965517 said:
I doubt a bottom-of-the-second-round pick is what Bach meant when he said "draft a QB high".

But then I won't know unless someone quotes him because he's on ignore.

Oh.that.stings.
 

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That's just it....Tony gives us the ability to be good.....but at the same time takes it away
 

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I don't even need to read all the posts to COMPLETELY agree with the OP. I live in Commander country. I get into it with EVERY Commander fan before every Cowboys game. I have NEVER since Romo started putting up big numbers gone into a game thinking we would lose except ONCE...against New England in 2007. That is the kind of confidence he has inspired in me. Attention everyone...Romo has won 70% of the games he has started in the NFL. And TRUST me, he has not won those games because of the coaches or the defense. He has made plays and has HAD to make plays, because this defense and the talent on this defense is OVERRATED and can NOT be trusted to carry this team AT ALL.
 

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superonyx;2965400 said:
The Arizona game? It wasnt tony that was our biggest problem. That game was pass protection all the way. Wasnt that the game he was running for his life the whole game. The game where he was injured? The game where we had a punt blocked and our punter was injured?

The Ravens game? Our biggest problem in that game was giving up almost 200 yards on the ground in about 3 minutes.

The eagles game? Our whole team cost us that game. We were completely dominated.

Romo has had games where he cost us. But look at the games where he has kept us in it. You cant expect perfection.

Dont forget our defense is the biggest problem we have. No sacks, no pressure, no turnover, no ability to cover anyone. I think we are ranked 30th in defense. That is the real problem. And TNewman has been looking awful every chance we get. Yet every fan on this board wants to get rid of romo.
I tried to stay away from this place for a few days to see if people would come to their senses. I guess not.

Just like the Owens issue last year it seems like people are choosing sides. It should be a fun year.

revisionist history...i will semi give you a pass on the arizona game, but we were playing from behind in the ravens game because of romo. The eagles game, romo started out terribly, and put the defense in terrible positions.

Im not calling for romos head, and Im not taking sides, I want him to be better. He is fully capable, and one of very few people in the league that can do everything.
 

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superonyx;2965860 said:
Another poster that says they dont care about stats and then immediately post romo's win loss record for one specific month to prove their point.

Why didnt you just say you dont care about stats unless they support your bias?


Have you ever been a part of a "Team"? Do you know that its the team that has a poor record in December? If you want to point to Romo as having a poor record then why not post T Newmans record in December? Why not Marion Barbers record? Hey lets get rid of Witten because he has a 5-8 record in december? No player in any team sport wins or loses by themselves. Go back and look at these 8 losses and you will see that it isnt Romo losing. Its the Cowboys TEAM. If you want to make an argument that its the Coaching then ok. At least that makes some sense. After all it is the coaches job to get the TEAM to play together to win those games.


Ok its fairly obvious you took no time to READ what i wrote. You see something and want to flame before taking time to READ it. This topic is about Tony Romo. Not the Dallas Cowboys as a whole.

Now to respond to some of your comments. I do not count wins and losses as a statistic. Statistics as i see them are things that dont get you in the playoffs whereas WINS/LOSSES will. Case in point Big Ben. While he isnt the statistical machine that a Drew Brees or Tony Romo may be he DOES have more SB rings than those 2 combined!

Here is a quote from my original post
"The opening home game was NOT a big game. It will not define him as a QB. What does define him and what seems to be the real reason people want him gone as badly as they wanted to see him take over would be what happens after December 1st."

The point i was making is that the Fans (myself included) who have a problem with Romo as QB of the Dallas Cowboys wouldnt be saying much at all if he could WIN when it counts. You need one game to get you in the Playoffs. WIN IT. You need to catch a snap to get you past the Wildcard game. CATCH IT!!! Quarterbacks are judged on wins and loses. Its a sad reality but as much as you may not want to admit it. It is reality!!!

One more thing. Ive played football many years (through my college years and beyond) so I DO know what a team is. I also know the one position you can not mask erratic play is the QB position. Romo CAN BE the answer, as soon as he wants to be.
 

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blkmajic88;2966127 said:
Ok its fairly obvious you took no time to READ what i wrote. You see something and want to flame before taking time to READ it. This topic is about Tony Romo. Not the Dallas Cowboys as a whole.

Now to respond to some of your comments. I do not count wins and losses as a statistic. Statistics as i see them are things that dont get you in the playoffs whereas WINS/LOSSES will. Case in point Big Ben. While he isnt the statistical machine that a Drew Brees or Tony Romo may be he DOES have more SB rings than those 2 combined!

Here is a quote from my original post
"The opening home game was NOT a big game. It will not define him as a QB. What does define him and what seems to be the real reason people want him gone as badly as they wanted to see him take over would be what happens after December 1st."

The point i was making is that the Fans (myself included) who have a problem with Romo as QB of the Dallas Cowboys wouldnt be saying much at all if he could WIN when it counts. You need one game to get you in the Playoffs. WIN IT. You need to catch a snap to get you past the Wildcard game. CATCH IT!!! Quarterbacks are judged on wins and loses. Its a sad reality but as much as you may not want to admit it. It is reality!!!

One more thing. Ive played football many years (through my college years and beyond) so I DO know what a team is. I also know the one position you can not mask erratic play is the QB position. Romo CAN BE the answer, as soon as he wants to be.
If Big Ben were the QB of the Dallas Cowboys he would not have 2 rings. You all are SERIOULSY overrating the coaching staff, organization, ownership and MOST importantly this defense if you think Big Ben could win with this team
 

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bbailey423;2966160 said:
If Big Ben were the QB of the Dallas Cowboys he would not have 2 rings. You all are SERIOULSY overrating the coaching staff, organization, ownership and MOST importantly this defense if you think Big Ben could win with this team


I agree with you on that. Just trying to stick to the original topic of Romo giving the Cowboys a chance to win. Now if anyone wants to know my opinion on why the Cowboys havent won or been better the last decade plus i will spend about 3 hours on the use of draft picks/not wanting to develop players/J.J. feeling the need make all decisions. You know, because its his money.
 

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Hostile;2965434 said:
There is no such thing as a perfect football player. I am this close to saying Peyton Manning is the best QB I have ever seen. He isn't perfect. He's never going to be perfect. I don't care how smart he is or how much talent he has and he has both in buckets.

At this time Jerry Rice remains the best football player I have ever seen. I simply have not ever seen anybody better. Most players are not even close. He wasn't perfect either.

Every player on this football team has positives they bring to the table and negatives too. The question is always can you live with that player.

With Romo it is not even a hard question for me. Yes, I can because when he is on and good he looks like one of the best QBs in the entire NFL. For the life of me I don't see what is wrong with that.

Yeah, he has bad games. Every QB does. Why over react every time a player has a bad game? I honestly don't see the wisdom of that and frankly it isn't even interesting to read the constant whining in every thread and every new thread started by someone who thinks that they have an original thought that will open everyone's eyes.

I'm not really a fan of Cory Procter at all. Never will be. But I don't feel the need to create useless threads and posts to announce this. Until he is cut he is on this team. I have to find ways to deal with that even if I don't like it. In the off season, I find that a very good time to diss the guys I don't like.

I had a good off season. Most of the guys I dislike are gone.

I like this team. I think this team is way better than the drama displayed the last 2 weeks. I find it a shame that some posters can't enjoy the team they love. I can't fathom that at all.

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