Tony Romo Has a 104.5 Passer Rating in Losses This Season

[DejectedFan1996]

Just out of curiosity,

NFL Network posted a stat showing since 2011, Romo when within 7 points and in the final 5 minutes of the game, he has 2 TD's and 8 picks and has a QB rating somewhere around 58. The stat seems skewed as hell but its usually not NFL network to post stats like that. Hoping Percy or someone can shed light on what the numbers are if you adjust the minutes up/down. I know within the first 10 minutes of the 4th quarter his TD:INT ratio is 16/0 and passer rating is in the hundreds.

Despite how upset I was at Romo, I still find myself needing to defend him anyway. I believe its because I just like him as a person so I'm slightly biased lol. But I need to debunk this NFL Network stat because lord knows my barber is going to bring it up tomorrow when I go get a shape up.

 

[KJJ]

Its fair to say keep going with Murray there.. i understand it. I may have stayed with him myself on 2nd and 6.

My point is simply that the playcall we went with there clearly had the D fooled and had it been a good throw, we'd all be talking about what a great decision it was since the D was focused on stopping Murray and they left Austin with no one between him and the end zone for what should have been an easy pitch and catch TD.

When has Romo ever made a good throw in the final 5 minutes to pull out a critical Dec/Jan game? All he ever does in those situations is turn the ball over. Any play that works looks like a great decision but in that situation you have to play the percentages. The Cowboys had a hot back who just gained 4 yards on first down. They had a 5 point lead late in the 4th quarter they should have kept feeding Murray the ball. He might have broke off a run and moving the chains would have continued milking the clock. I understand the Cowboys defense may not have been able to stop the Packers had the Cowboys had to punt with a 2-3 minutes left but you still have to play the percentages knowing they have a career backup at QB and not Aaron Rodgers.

QB's who bounce around the league do so because they can't win games in those situations. Had the Cowboys ate up some clock forcing the Packers to use their time outs they would have had to abandon the run and the game would have been on Flynn's shoulders. GB would have needed a TD and with no time outs Flynn would have had to take some chances down the field . Even as bad as the Cowboys defense is they have forced some turnovers this season and may have been able to force one in that situation. I would rather be talking about the defense caving in at the end than talking about another game ending pick by Romo.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

How many yards after the pick did the Packers need to get into the endzone? They sure as hell did not start around their 10 or 15 yard line with no time outs.

They started at the 50 yard line and it took them 1 minute and 15 seconds of gametime to score. They had a timeout left, but didn't use any on that drive. Dallas took 2 timeouts on that drive.

However, even if i hadn't looked that up, both you and i know that our defense is more than happy to give up very long drives in very short amounts of time.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

When has Romo ever made a good throw in the final 5 minutes to pull out a critical Dec/Jan game?

Last year against the Eagles and then again the next week against Cincy come to mind.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

I am going to start using this argument in other facts of life.

Yes honey, the scale says I gained 10 pounds from drinking beer and eating crappy food during football season, but my eye test shows no real changes in my weight.

Well Boss-man, the commission report shows I only sold 10 widgets this quarter, but the eye test shows I killed it out there.

I know you're really proud of your clever post here, but stats are not the whole story. Like they say, stats are like a bikini, it reveals a lot but hides the most important stuff. And the stats for this offense this year hide a lot. When the stats are removed, whats revealed for the eyes is not a nice brazilian wax, but a furry mass of overgrowth. And its time for Jerry to get out the wax and clean things up beginning with Red. The eye test is always important. And it goes beyond Romo with this team.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

It's the backwards cap.

You are prob on to something.

Like Colin said, the backwards hat tells us something about a guy. That casual, wing it, carefree approach. Romo and Stafford both throw INT's that cost their team on a fairly regular basis.

 

[Primetime42]

Out of Moorehead State but no, he was not drafted before Parcells. In fact, Parcells was with the Giants in 1979.

But I agree, you should stop this.

Yes, the rookie defensive coordinator from the Air Force Academy had tons of say in using a #1 pick on a QB.

You know what the hell I meant. Don't be a jackass.

 

[KJJ]

Last year against the Eagles and then again the next week against Cincy come to mind.

Romo's last pass in 2012 vs Philly (TD) came from 6 yards out with 5:35 left vs a team whose season was over. His issues have come with under 5 minutes to play against teams like the Cowboys who are battling for a playoff spot. There were still 4 games left in the season a loss to Philly wouldn't have put the Cowboys in the situation they are now having to win out to win the division and possibly make the playoffs. Romo completed some throws vs Cinn in the final 5 minutes but none of them stood out.

Every throw except for one to Witten were dinks and dunks to Murray to get in position for the game winning FG. With 3 games left a loss to Cinn wouldn't have put the Cowboys in the situation they are now. Sundays loss has left the Cowboys with virtually no room for error the last 2 games.

 

[ufcrules1]

Despite how upset I was at Romo, I still find myself needing to defend him anyway. I believe its because I just like him as a person so I'm slightly biased lol. But I need to debunk this NFL Network stat because lord knows my barber is going to bring it up tomorrow when I go get a shape up.

lol... man, I really love your honesty. I wish other Romo homers would just come out and be honest like you. I love Tony too as a person but I'm a realist, I just call it how I see it and don't let anything come in the way of that. That is a an approach I use in my every day life too.

 

[85Cowboy85]

Just out of curiosity,

NFL Network posted a stat showing since 2011, Romo when within 7 points and in the final 5 minutes of the game, he has 2 TD's and 8 picks and has a QB rating somewhere around 58. The stat seems skewed as hell but its usually not NFL network to post stats like that. Hoping Percy or someone can shed light on what the numbers are if you adjust the minutes up/down. I know within the first 10 minutes of the 4th quarter his TD:INT ratio is 16/0 and passer rating is in the hundreds.

Despite how upset I was at Romo, I still find myself needing to defend him anyway. I believe its because I just like him as a person so I'm slightly biased lol. But I need to debunk this NFL Network stat because lord knows my barber is going to bring it up tomorrow when I go get a shape up.

It's true but they cherry picked the data to make it look as bad as possible.

These are the passer ratings for all QBs with more then 100 attempts in those situations in that time. There are only 5.

Matthew Stafford: 85.9
Tom Brady: 70.6
Matt Ryan: 66.1
Phillip Rivers: 65.2
Tony Romo: 60.6

In general they are all pretty terrible other then Stafford. I would certainly prefer less INTs but in general you want to avoid the situation in the first place.

There was a similar thread on this earlier by Percy that had to do with a fox graphic they showed earlier without context. Since his career began this is his rank in passer rating with a given amount of time left in the 4th quarter with the score within 7 points. This is among QBs with at least 2/3 as many attempts as Romo has.

1 minute: (2/15)
2 minutes: (4/29)
3 minutes: (8/29)
4 minutes: (10/31)
5 minutes: (13/33)
6 minutes: (11/35)
7 minutes: (4/33)
8 minutes: (5/33)
9 minutes: (2/33)
10 minutes: (1/34)

There is really no reason to pick within five minutes instead of say within two minutes. Indeed it could be argued that within two minutes there is greater pressure because the QB has little chance of getting the ball back, whereas within five minutes there is still a chance the defense forces a stop.

One thing I find interesting is that within two minutes when the game is close passer ratings take a huge nosedive. The highest passer rating of all QBs with at least 100 attempts within 2 minutes is 76.2. The average passer rating is 61.0.

This lends some credence to the theory that we have become too one dimensional offensively. When the opponent knows you are going to pass it makes interceptions much more likely.

 

[cowboysooner]

The cowboys clearly did not fool Matthews. If the play had Smith fan out to Mathews the play would have had a chance. This was essentially a naked or unblocked protection pass on 2 and 6 with 3 minutes left and 1 timeout. That is deplorably bad situational football.

 

[percyhoward]

Just out of curiosity,

NFL Network posted a stat showing since 2011, Romo when within 7 points and in the final 5 minutes of the game, he has 2 TD's and 8 picks and has a QB rating somewhere around 58. The stat seems skewed as hell but its usually not NFL network to post stats like that. Hoping Percy or someone can shed light on what the numbers are if you adjust the minutes up/down. I know within the first 10 minutes of the 4th quarter his TD:INT ratio is 16/0 and passer rating is in the hundreds.

Despite how upset I was at Romo, I still find myself needing to defend him anyway. I believe its because I just like him as a person so I'm slightly biased lol. But I need to debunk this NFL Network stat because lord knows my barber is going to bring it up tomorrow when I go get a shape up.

I saw that little presentation. Deft sleight-of-hand. First they looked at Romo's numbers since 2009, showing his raw rating to be 67.7 with a 7-point margin in the last 5 minutes. Then, to show what kind of company that 67.7 puts Romo in with, they switch the time period to "since 2011." There is only one reason to switch time periods, and that's to filter out a QB you don't want appearing on your list. In this case, that's Tom Brady, whose pass rating in these situations since 2009 is actually lower than Romo's.

The whole purpose is to make Romo seem less of a QB than he is, so it would defeat that purpose to let Brady appear on the list. That's why the time period had to begin with 2011. If they had used any other year as a starting point, Brady would have been right there on the list with Romo.

It's propaganda that mixes art with a dash of science and comes out smelling like slander. They used 7-point margins instead of 8. Why? It takes one of Romo's TD away. They used 5 minutes instead of 6 or 4. Why? To keep Ryan, Rivers, and Brady off the list.

You want to give your barber something to think about, ask him out of the last 100 times a team (besides Dallas) scored 36 points in a game, how many times did they lose.

Answer is three.

 

[Texan_Eph89]

And people still think Romo is the problem..

 

[Lodeus]

The three INT's is a crazy stat. Two of them came in Sunday.

 

[TheCount]

Romo does a great job of padding his stats in loses to make the story seem better in the telling. He's done it his entire career. It's part of why it's so easy to defend him. You go back and look at the numbers and think, "This guy is great, must be everyone else".

 

[85Cowboy85]

Deft sleight-of-hand. First they looked at Romo's numbers since 2009, showing his raw rating to be 67.7 with a 7-point margin in the last 5 minutes. Then, to show what kind of company that 67.7 puts Romo in with, they switch the time period to "since 2011." There is only one reason to switch time periods, and that's to filter out a QB you don't want appearing on your list. In this case, that's Tom Brady, whose pass rating in these situations since 2009 is actually lower than Romo's.

That is stunning. I didn't see the presentation myself but in academic setting that would be considered fraud and you would be fired for that.

If a business cooked the books like that people would likely go to jail.

Edit: not suggesting anybody should go to jail here but still it's ridiculous

 

[percyhoward]

That is stunning. I didn't see the presentation myself but in academic setting that would be considered fraud and you would be fired for that.

If a business cooked the books like that people would likely go to jail.

Edit: not suggesting anybody should go to jail here but still it's ridiculous

Overtime doesn't fit their narrative, so they edit it out. These are the active QB with the most OT attempts since 2009.

Romo 125.0
Brees 100.1
Dalton 79.0
Rivers 72.0
Palmer 71.9
Schaub 71.0
Bradford 70.3
Flacco 69.2
Brady 63.1
Fitzpatrick 19.3

 

[85Cowboy85]

Overtime doesn't fit their narrative, so they edit it out. These are the active QB with the most OT attempts since 2009.

Romo 125.0
Brees 100.1
Dalton 79.0
Rivers 72.0
Palmer 71.9
Schaub 71.0
Bradford 70.3
Flacco 69.2
Brady 63.1
Fitzpatrick 19.3

I have a sneaking suspicion if Romo was down where Fitzpatrick or Brady is it would have made it into the segment.

Call it a hunch.

 

[DandyDon1722]

lol.. one of the last few holdouts. Stay strong man, stay strong.

Make no mistake my man -- you are still a ten precenter to anyone who really understands what's wrong with this team. And less than that in a group who has played or coached and understands Romo's ability.

Don't try to all of a sudden to assume most people are jumping Romo's ship. If we win out you guys will be crying in your beer over him.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Romo does a great job of padding his stats in loses to make the story seem better in the telling. He's done it his entire career. It's part of why it's so easy to defend him. You go back and look at the numbers and think, "This guy is great, must be everyone else".

Hmmm....wonder why the team was losing in the first place? I guess the team is great and it must be all Romo's fault.