Tony Romo is the most underrated Cowboy ever. Dak is making a case for the opposite

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Tony Romo was the starting QB for how many years? He had very effective receivers and a hall of fame TE, not to mention some pretty good RBs. He lacked an OL.

In ten seasons as the starting QB, he led the team to six playoff games.
His playoff record as the QB was 2-6.
The offense averaged 19.8 points per playoff game under his leadership. In one playoff game, he led us to a total of 3 points. Those aren’t the years of terrible teams; those are the years we made the playoffs.

He is talked about like one of the greatest QBs of all time. How is he underrated?
 

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Bingo, we jumped the gun big time not putting Romo back in last year, injury prone or not. Dak would have been a great backup with valuable game experience.
I can see complaining about forcing Romo into retirement, though I don’t feel that way, but we definitely did the right thing sticking with Dak and the hot hand in the playoffs. He played like a super star in the playoff game vs GB...there’s no way to undrmine his performance, including the go ahead drive at the end of the game. The QB isn’t responsible for giving up the lead and game in 37 seconds.
 

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Tony Romo was the starting QB for how many years? He had very effective receivers and a hall of fame TE, not to mention some pretty good RBs. He lacked an OL.

In ten seasons as the starting QB, he led the team to six playoff games.
His playoff record as the QB was 2-6.
The offense averaged 19.8 points per playoff game under his leadership. In one playoff game, he led us to a total of 3 points. Those aren’t the years of terrible teams; those are the years we made the playoffs.

He is talked about like one of the greatest QBs of all time. How is he underrated?
Who talks about him like he's the greatest quarterback of all time?
 

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I disagree. I think Romo is vastly underrated. He's viewed around the NFL fan world as a talented choke artist. A stat compiler. When in reality I believe he was a championship caliber QB anchored to the worst owner and GM in all of sports. Get him out of the circus in Dallas and on a team with enough of a supporting cast and you see a different result over his career.

Romo was a true franchise QB. The slop we have now will never compare.
It’s very rare to see Belichick gushing over players, let alone multiple times. When the greatest coach in the modern football era does that over your QB and you still hear a multitude of the same idiotic things around here and other fan bases... Yeah, I would tend to agree.
 

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Because for some odd reason, when Dallas lost it was always number 9's fault. For some odd reason, Dak seems to get a pass and we are constantly looking his skill players. Romo took players like Laurant Robins, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton and made them heroic. Dak can't seem to complete a yard flat to Beasley.
When the QB position is given the label of the most important and difficult in all sports and when a team loses they look to the QB
just as they are now with Dak.The early years I personally under rated Romo. It became obvious watching over time what a great
player he was. I'm sure others came to the same conclusion.
 

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I swear, people here just don't get it....

Because I've had to school 90% of you for over a year now.

Romo may not have started his "second year", but Romo's issue was mentally. Reading defenses, trying to do too much. That's what he worked on with Parcells, the mental part of the game.

This is NOT THE SAME as what is going on with Prescott. Prescott doesn't have the fundamentals down - bad footwork, bad throwing mechanics, goes noodle arm, has Tebow-like accuracy on some throws. Romo was NEVER that way, at least in the NFL. He may have made some poor decisions early in his career due to his gunslinging mentality, but he was never as bad as Dak has looked in some games.

So please, stop with the "HE'S IN HIS SECOND YEAR" excuse. It's weak and it's not comparable to Romo.
Romo had to learn not to be lackadaisical with the football, similar to what Jameis Winston does. He always looked like a guy who could challenge a defense any and every where. He always looked like he might have it, even when it was just preseason.

Dak has never looked like that guy. Never looked like teams were going to fear what he can do through the air. Watching the two even early, they simply don’t look anything close to the same kind of QB. One always looked like they might be a really good QB that can carry a team some day, and one looks like he might be Alex Smith if everything goes right.

It’s really hard going from a prolific passer to someone who is afraid to challenge a defense, inaccurate and lacks anticipation. And it’s not just a this year thing either.
 

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Romo wasn't doing anything in year two of his career. It took time, something no one seems willing to give Dak.

Dak overachieved in his rookie year, raising expectations to ridiculous levels. Even when he makes a good play it's not good enough.
Well he did lead the team to the playoffs two consecutive years...2006 and 2007...where the latter was his first full season in command (13-3). For my money if Tyron Smith doesn't bounce back next year neither will Prescott. A quarterback as risk averse as Prescott is will suffer without excellent pass protection.
 

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I appreciate Romo for what he did for this franchise. But, think that some fans frustrations with Dak's play are starting to have some hype up Romo to the point where some of Romo's struggles or the team's struggling seasons with Romo under center have been forgotten about. Romo had a higher skill set than Dak does now, yet still had those games where he made big mistakes or where the offense struggled.

And some are guaranteeing that Romo would have big games stat wise, even in games where Dak has constantly been hit/pressured. And some believe that Romo in his current state could survive those hits and have an productive game.
Revisionist history is something else ain't it. Remember how often you could predict when Tony was going to throw a game ending INT? A lot of fans have forgotten quickly. They only have the image of 2014 Tony in their memories.
 

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Quit picking on Tony he played really well in games that didn't matter.
He earned every penny of this huge contract he's still collecting still collecting:facepalm:
 

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Revisionist history is something else ain't it. Remember how often you could predict when Tony was going to throw a game ending INT? A lot of fans have forgotten quickly. They only have the image of 2014 Tony in their memories.

The thing is for every game ending INT there was a game winning drive. Romo at least put the team in a position to win, if an INT lost the game it meant that it was a one score game near the end. I’d prefer a heart breaking game ending INT to wildly innaccurate incompletions and mid game INTs.

I don’t disagree that Dak needs more time, the problem is that he is trending sharply down right now and he’ll need a hell of a start to 2018 to reverse that. Time will tell if that will happen, but given that Romo was never as consistently bad as Dak has been this season it seems fair to propose that the Cowboys backed the wrong horse last year.
 

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Romo was coaching last year..... hence the record
Mic drop

That's the difference. Ill even go as far as to say the Cowboys dont ever win another super bowl unless Romo is the head coach. He maybe the only man living and breathing in this green earth with the balls enough to stand up to Jones.
 

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So you wanna stick with Dak for the remainder of his career? "Until there is someone better" won't happen until we actively look for his replacement. Isn't that the point of this thread - when should we start looking for his replacement?

At this point I am not looking for any replacement. I would never pass up on a QB in the draft I thought has great potential.
 

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Who talks about him like he's the greatest quarterback of all time?
There are many in this forum that talk like Romo is one of the GOAT and should be in the HOF. Not sure where you've been.
 

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I rewatched the last 3 games. Seriously? Wth happened to Prescott. He couldn't even complete passes when he had time.
Dak played fine this year. You're just use to the way he played in his rookie season. Remember this, it's not him who made the play calls. It's not him who dropped passes. He took some hard hits. Be glad he's as tough as Romo was or you'd be crying alot earlier and calling him glass. Jerry better find a good backup or we'll all see some real ugliness at center come next season.
 

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The thing is for every game ending INT there was a game winning drive. Romo at least put the team in a position to win, if an INT lost the game it meant that it was a one score game near the end. I’d prefer a heart breaking game ending INT to wildly innaccurate incompletions and mid game INTs.

I don’t disagree that Dak needs more time, the problem is that he is trending sharply down right now and he’ll need a hell of a start to 2018 to reverse that. Time will tell if that will happen, but given that Romo was never as consistently bad as Dak has been this season it seems fair to propose that the Cowboys backed the wrong horse last year.
Good post.
I started having doubts on dak
Last year near end of season.
I thought I would start Tony
For last game with Phil, and
if he looked good, would start
Tony for GB game.
Also felt that at very least they should keep Tony 1 more year,
Let them compete for starting
Role, or just let Tony start and
Dak be #2.
I feared a slump by dak, and tony
Is gone.
Dak did poorly when under stress from pass rush at times
In 2016,and other teams noticed, so game plans focus on pressure, hitting him, and taking
Away short pass, like to Beasley.
Team's don't have to stop the run, just get the lead, or make some run stuffs early and linehan will go mostly pass.

Another thing I have seen lately is that receivers are getting open but not while Dak is looking at them or has time to throw to them the problem is by the time he sees them Defenders has caught up or he is under pressure and has to get rid of the ball but guys have been wide open but dak was not looking their way.
if a quarterback is looking to the right he won't see a guy open to the left it's just the way it is .
but dak needs a better way of surveying the field , or to do it quicker so he can spot these open guys.
cuz some of them have been wide open.
 
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Also dak has not been coached
very good.
He looks for open guys, when
He should throw them open,
If they are looking back.
Also play selection by L. is
Lacking the types of play's
That would suit dak, and the pass rush getting to him.

Also I have seen many plays
Where dak could take off and run, but he instead throws bad
Pass, like on pick 6 play, or
he gets sacked etc.
 

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If you re-watched the last three games you should’ve noticed that Dak had a career game vs the Giants in week 14. Even though he didn’t have a great game against Oakland he still completed almost 67% of his passes and had a rushing TD. I’ll tell you what’s happened with Dak this season, the team around him hasn’t been very good, forcing him to have to do a lot more than he did last season. The OL hasn’t been nearly as good as it has been in previous seasons. We lost a couple of players on the OL in free agency and Tyron has missed several games and hasn’t been healthy for most of the season. His replacement Chaz Green was horrible, almost getting Dak killed vs Atlanta and Bell hasn’t been very good either.

Dak has been under pressure all season, taking a lot of hits that would’ve put Romo on IR long ago. He’s been sacked 31 times in 15 games compared to 25 times in 16 games last year and he’s probably taken double the hits. He’s been without Zeke for six games and the team imploded around him once Zeke was suspended. His receivers haven’t helped him much this season, especially Dez who’s been dropping balls and whose game is a shell of what it once was. His game has dropped off so far the past three seasons he’s not even a #1 receiver anymore. Dez’s game continuing to crumble has allowed the opposition to double cover Beasley who hasn’t been near as affective as he was last season.

Romo being the most underrated Cowboy ever is ridiculous. His game was always respected and he had his issues throughout his career having to do too much. You’re not going to get far if your QB is having to carry you. Dak is a young developing QB and if you put games on his shoulders with his receivers dropping balls and him getting thrown to the ground all day, he’s not going to play very well and the Cowboys aren’t going to get very far.
Great analysis of this whole season.
 

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There are many in this forum that talk like Romo is one of the GOAT and should be in the HOF. Not sure where you've been.
No, not the greatest of all time. Great? Yes. But not the GOAT.
And I've been here probably too long, thank you. :)
 

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How is he underrated? He's won 2 wild card games in his 13 year career. People rate him accordingly. A guy who will give you some fun games to watch. Put up numbers. But when it comes time to win when it matters, he doesn't. In fact, there are as many people who gave him a pass and excuses everytime we lost with him. It was as equal as the amount of people who blamed him. He put up stats but was not a winner.

I get. Romo didn't meet our expectations but those expectations were because the guy was a quality QB. He had all the tools you want out of a franchise QB. He had accuracy, intelligence, a more than adequate arm, good footwork and he was elusive up until his last few years. The one thing the guy didn't have was coaching, post Parcells. It's the same thing Dak doesn't have and will be one of the contributing factors to his demise, just like it was with Romo. The problem with Dak is that he lacks the other attributes Romo had. Romo could throw for 500 yards (re: Denver), have a near perfect QB rating and still lose on a last minute INT. And there were folks here who would blame Romo. Not the D. Not the coaching that was "building" something and his bullsit process, but Romo. Yet these same folks want to excuse Dak and his dink and dunk game, his his (less than) 100 yards passing during a half of football, his pick 6's, his poor footwork, his lack of accuracy, etc. And they blame everyone else (the D, coaching, the WR's, etc.). Romo lost more games with a 100 plus QB rating than probably any QB in modern football, by far. He's in the top 20 in 4th quarter comebacks in NFL history and only 5 short of being in the top 10. And that's with a defense that couldn't hold a lead to save their life. Romo holds just about every QB passing record for one of the most storied franchises in the NFL. He carried this team. He covered up the OL's flaws with his elusiveness, He made Miles Austin, Laurent Robinson, Jason Witten, Patrick Crayton and Jason Garrett millions. He also made Jerry Jones billions. And yet people still blamed Romo but somehow find a myriad of excuses for Dak and his 100 something passing yards.
 
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