Tony Romo is the most underrated Cowboy ever. Dak is making a case for the opposite

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Yea I agree. He started losing confidence after that Atlanta game where he was pounded into the dirt time and again. That's on Garrett.
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That's 100 percent correct. Seem like he started getting it back against Washington though. He isn't fully developed yet and I expect big things from him. He has the right mind set to improve
 

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Romo wasn't doing anything in year two of his career. It took time, something no one seems willing to give Dak.

Dak overachieved in his rookie year, raising expectations to ridiculous levels. Even when he makes a good play it's not good enough.
This !!!!!! This!!!!!!! This!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is this so hard to understand?!?!?!?
 

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I think we probably give Dak one more year, but you're lying to yourself if you don't think he was the primary reason we sucked this year. Our running game was solid all year, even with Morris, and our defense was better than it was in years, both secondary and pass rush. Any other QB would've killed Seattle yesterday. Our main issue this year was a lackluster offense that couldn't capitalize. A healthy Romo would've had us 14-2 with Super Bowl aspirations. Dak was one of the worst QBs in the league this year.
 

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Why do the Romo stans gotta prop up him and tear down Dak in the same sentence? Romo had his time. Stop comparing a second year starter to a 15+ year vet. Have you Romo fans ever thought that he didn't even sniff the field until his 4th year on the bench. Dak started right out of college and he didn't even think he would. Point is two different players and different path of development.
 

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I rewatched the last 3 games. Seriously? Wth happened to Prescott. He couldn't even complete passes when he had time.

So what is the difference between last year and this year? Duh, I don’t know. Lol

Find that answer and you will see why dak was all world last year and pedestrian this year.
 

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I think we probably give Dak one more year, but you're lying to yourself if you don't think he was the primary reason we sucked this year. Our running game was solid all year, even with Morris, and our defense was better than it was in years, both secondary and pass rush. Any other QB would've killed Seattle yesterday. Our main issue this year was a lackluster offense that couldn't capitalize. A healthy Romo would've had us 14-2 with Super Bowl aspirations. Dak was one of the worst QBs in the league this year.
Ahahahahaha!!

Romo 14-2 and sb? Now that was funny.
 

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Why do the Romo stans gotta prop up him and tear down Dak in the same sentence? Romo had his time. Stop comparing a second year starter to a 15+ year vet. Have you Romo fans ever thought that he didn't even sniff the field until his 4th year on the bench. Dak started right out of college and he didn't even think he would. Point is two different players and different path of development.
Romo cry babies that still haven’t recovered from last year. :muttley:
 

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I rewatched the last 3 games. Seriously? Wth happened to Prescott. He couldn't even complete passes when he had time.

If you re-watched the last three games you should’ve noticed that Dak had a career game vs the Giants in week 14. Even though he didn’t have a great game against Oakland he still completed almost 67% of his passes and had a rushing TD. I’ll tell you what’s happened with Dak this season, the team around him hasn’t been very good, forcing him to have to do a lot more than he did last season. The OL hasn’t been nearly as good as it has been in previous seasons. We lost a couple of players on the OL in free agency and Tyron has missed several games and hasn’t been healthy for most of the season. His replacement Chaz Green was horrible, almost getting Dak killed vs Atlanta and Bell hasn’t been very good either.

Dak has been under pressure all season, taking a lot of hits that would’ve put Romo on IR long ago. He’s been sacked 31 times in 15 games compared to 25 times in 16 games last year and he’s probably taken double the hits. He’s been without Zeke for six games and the team imploded around him once Zeke was suspended. His receivers haven’t helped him much this season, especially Dez who’s been dropping balls and whose game is a shell of what it once was. His game has dropped off so far the past three seasons he’s not even a #1 receiver anymore. Dez’s game continuing to crumble has allowed the opposition to double cover Beasley who hasn’t been near as affective as he was last season.

Romo being the most underrated Cowboy ever is ridiculous. His game was always respected and he had his issues throughout his career having to do too much. You’re not going to get far if your QB is having to carry you. Dak is a young developing QB and if you put games on his shoulders with his receivers dropping balls and him getting thrown to the ground all day, he’s not going to play very well and the Cowboys aren’t going to get very far.
 

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I think we probably give Dak one more year, but you're lying to yourself if you don't think he was the primary reason we sucked this year. Our running game was solid all year, even with Morris, and our defense was better than it was in years, both secondary and pass rush. Any other QB would've killed Seattle yesterday. Our main issue this year was a lackluster offense that couldn't capitalize. A healthy Romo would've had us 14-2 with Super Bowl aspirations. Dak was one of the worst QBs in the league this year.

Lol....one more year and then what? Sign a castoff veteran? Draft a young qb and start him?

You people are laughable fools.

Until there is someone better dak starts. This is the same stupidity the Romo haters spewed.
 

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Lol....one more year and then what? Sign a castoff veteran? Draft a young qb and start him?

You people are laughable fools.

Until there is someone better dak starts. This is the same stupidity the Romo haters spewed.

So you wanna stick with Dak for the remainder of his career? "Until there is someone better" won't happen until we actively look for his replacement. Isn't that the point of this thread - when should we start looking for his replacement?
 

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I think we probably give Dak one more year, but you're lying to yourself if you don't think he was the primary reason we sucked this year. Our running game was solid all year, even with Morris, and our defense was better than it was in years, both secondary and pass rush. Any other QB would've killed Seattle yesterday. Our main issue this year was a lackluster offense that couldn't capitalize. A healthy Romo would've had us 14-2 with Super Bowl aspirations. Dak was one of the worst QBs in the league this year.

Give Dak one more year are you serious? Lol Trust me he’s going to get a lot more than one more year. The main reason we haven’t been good this season is the players around him and the coaching. The OL hasn’t been good. We’ve had issues at LT with Tyron not being healthy and missing games. Dak has been under pressure and thrown around all season. Romo would have never made it to mid season with the hits Dak has taken. The 6 games without Zeke would have put Romo on IR, having to carry the offense.

Go back and look at the hits Dak has taken. You honestly believe Romo would’ve held up to all of that? Our running game has dropped off from last season, especially once Zeke was suspended. Our receivers haven’t been very good this year, especially Dez whose game continues to decline. Anyone who thinks an aging, injury prone Romo would have saved this team is kidding themselves.
 

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So you wanna stick with Dak for the remainder of his career? "Until there is someone better" won't happen until we actively look for his replacement. Isn't that the point of this thread - when should we start looking for his replacement?

The organization should always be trying to improve that particular position or at least prep for the Franchise QB replacement if you are at the pinnacle like New England. Still shocked that they gave away Garoppolo. I would've kept him around 2 or 3 more years....I know Brady thinks he can go forever but he is eventually going to fall prey to father-time just like everyone else....I think it is a good idea to try to draft another QB or let Rush really push Dak. Like actually give him a chance to beat Dak out. It won't happen with the current buffoontastic coaching staff.
 

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We'll know more next year.

We've seen time and time again when mobile rookie QBs come into the league and catch Defensive Coordinators by surprise. Kaepernick, RG3, vince Young...and If Manziel wasnt such a knucklehead, he may have had a good rookie year on the right team. Not incredible like Dak had, but ok...maybe

Unless they hbe the full QB toolset, a regression sometimes happens in year two.

Dak walked onto the very best setup any rookie could ever dream of.
All world oline, all star RB, decent other weapons.....and he had a great rookie year.

Some of that was taken away part of the time in his 2nd year and, as always, the DCs knew more about him, (not just 2-3 days of film, but an offseason) and he struggled at times.

His circumstances in 2017 were more like other QBs have every year of their careers, and not the fairy tale setup of 2016.
He still had two pro bowlers on the line and so-so running backs. But not the very best running back and three oline probowlers every single game.

Getting hit a lot more and throwing a few ugly pick messes with a QBs head.

Heres to hoping he comes back better next year.
We'll see....

I still tend to think he's here long term

As for Romo.
Sure, the 2014 Romo shreds the league with team. Completely annihilates teams.

But I'm not so sure, after 2015 injuries, that guy even existed anymore ...at least not longterm, as in 16 games.
 
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In typical cowboys fashion when presented with the Romo-Dak conundrum we make the embarrassingly wrong choice. What could have been two or three last shots at a Super Bowl with Dak waiting and learning on the bench turned into throwing away Romo and destroying Daks career.

And for those saying Romo wouldn’t have survived, you don’t know what you were talking about. He sustained freak injuries on freak plays that other QBs have also sustained, he wasn’t made of glass. It just happened to Rodgers, and his back injury happened to Carr.

He showed he was ready to ball when he drove the ball against the Eagles first string D like he was playing in his backyard. The same D Dak looked clueless against. If we keep Romo we’d be prime to knock the 1st or 2nd seed out this coming Jan, but instead we have this.

That is Cowboys football.
 

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I think we probably give Dak one more year, but you're lying to yourself if you don't think he was the primary reason we sucked this year. Our running game was solid all year, even with Morris, and our defense was better than it was in years, both secondary and pass rush. Any other QB would've killed Seattle yesterday. Our main issue this year was a lackluster offense that couldn't capitalize. A healthy Romo would've had us 14-2 with Super Bowl aspirations. Dak was one of the worst QBs in the league this year.
I expected some sophomore slump, but it was startling how bad Dak looked far too often. I mean some Tebow-like bad throws, horrible pocket presence and not seeing the field.

I hope I'm wrong but I think 2017 Dak is a lot closer to reality than 2016 Dak.
 

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Give Dak one more year are you serious? Lol Trust me he’s going to get a lot more than one more year. The main reason we haven’t been good this season is the players around him and the coaching. The OL hasn’t been good. We’ve had issues at LT with Tyron not being healthy and missing games. Dak has been under pressure and thrown around all season. Romo would have never made it to mid season with the hits Dak has taken. The 6 games without Zeke would have put Romo on IR, having to carry the offense.

Go back and look at the hits Dak has taken. You honestly believe Romo would’ve held up to all of that? Our running game has dropped off from last season, especially once Zeke was suspended. Our receivers haven’t been very good this year, especially Dez whose game continues to decline. Anyone who thinks an aging, injury prone Romo would have saved this team is kidding themselves.
You assume Romo (or any legit QB) would have taken all the hits Dak did. Dak often ran right into trouble in the pocket and doesn't step up or hit his hot read.

Sorry but Romo aside Dak doesn't pass the eye test. He was flat horrible far too often. I mean fundamental lack of basic QB skills was on display.
 

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I see constant praise for Romo on this site. He has an earned massive following. If anything, Romo is overrated by Cowboys fans and underrated by non Cowboys fans. Seems to me you have more of an issue with Dak.

You also see constant criticism (most of it idiotic) on this site.

And you supported the OP by saying he is underrated by non-Cowboys fans (the vast majority of fans).
 

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You assume Romo (or any legit QB) would have taken all the hits Dak did. Dak often ran right into trouble in the pocket and doesn't step up or hit his hot read.

Sorry but Romo aside Dak doesn't pass the eye test. He was flat horrible far too often. I mean fundamental lack of basic QB skills was on display.

It’s easy to assume an aging Romo whose mobility isn’t what it used to be would have taken all the hits that Dak did and then some, playing behind an OL that wasn’t very good this year. Despite having a solid team in 2014 and the top rusher in the league Romo still took 29 sacks that season and missed a game with an injury. Dak only took 25 sacks last season. Romo took 36 sacks in 2011 and 35 sacks in 2012 and 2013. Dak avoided a number of sacks this season that Romo would have never been able to avoid. There were times where Dak got no protection, he had no chance. There’s no way an aging Romo who’s had numerous back issues would have been able to avoid all the sacks and hits that Dak has taken this year, especially once Zeke was suspended and Tyron was out with an injury.

Not having that game breaking runner in the backfield and a solid LT would have gotten Romo killed. Dak Is going to have to get better there’s no question about that but the players around him have to step up and get better as well or we’ll never get far regardless who the QB is. It’s laughable to think that anyone would believe that Romo would have gone through this entire season without being injured. Prior to his retirement he had missed games three straight seasons with injuries.
 

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Romo wasn't doing anything in year two of his career. It took time, something no one seems willing to give Dak.

Dak overachieved in his rookie year, raising expectations to ridiculous levels. Even when he makes a good play it's not good enough.
That's irrelevant. We had Romo last year ready to play.

People didn't want to give Dak time to develop. They wanted him to play right away OVER Romo. So the comparison between Romo and Dak right now is valid.
 
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