Too dramatic of a change in philosophy?

[Denim Chicken]

Man that Crawford extension is looking good today!

 

[Miller]

I almost started a new thread but I'll do it here. Here is my issue with that we are doing right now:

Our needs are D(Safeties, DBs, Interior line, pass rushers); Backup QB and RB

By not meeting one of these needs on say RB and Lamar Miller you end up bumping draft needs further. So we wanted to give Demarco what 4 years at 20 mil with 12 guaranteed. Lamar was 4 at 24 with a little more guaranteed. Do that deal. Because now if you take D in 1st you are almost forced to go RB/QB in the 2nd and 3rd. Then you are skipping a huge group on D. If you don't go RB/QB you are handcuffing yourself like you did this year on O if there are injuries and aren't giving Romo much of a window. It takes the pressure off the draft. Sitting pat and using Plan C guys still doesn't make needing Plan A guys go away on draft day.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The Cowboys - aka Jerry Jones - once signed big names for huge money no matter the long-term implications.

Now, the Cowboys - collectively - sign nobody of note to anything of consequence no matter how great the need.

Surely, there's a happy medium in there somewhere.

Here's hoping to be surprised.

Baltimore, Denver, NE, and Seattle don't go crazy on week 1. You want to act like the Jets, Jags, Texans or Dolphins?

This is disappointing because I know most of the people complaining have been through free agency before.

 

[Shinaoi]

I'm actually happy we're not paying elite contracts to middle of the line players. The Giants just made two middle of the pack players some of the highest paid in nfl history at their position. Passing on that madness is what smart teams do. I'll happily sit with the patriots, steelers, and packers at the table of did nothings.

 

[JoeKing]

The Cowboys - aka Jerry Jones - once signed big names for huge money no matter the long-term implications.

Now, the Cowboys - collectively - sign nobody of note to anything of consequence no matter how great the need.

Surely, there's a happy medium in there somewhere.

Here's hoping to be surprised.

Is your real name Rip Van Winkle and you just woke up. Man have you got some catching up to do. Wait til you get a load of who might be the next president.

 

[Aven8]

I almost started a new thread but I'll do it here. Here is my issue with that we are doing right now:

Our needs are D(Safeties, DBs, Interior line, pass rushers); Backup QB and RB

By not meeting one of these needs on say RB and Lamar Miller you end up bumping draft needs further. So we wanted to give Demarco what 4 years at 20 mil with 12 guaranteed. Lamar was 4 at 24 with a little more guaranteed. Do that deal. Because now if you take D in 1st you are almost forced to go RB/QB in the 2nd and 3rd. Then you are skipping a huge group on D. If you don't go RB/QB you are handcuffing yourself like you did this year on O if there are injuries and aren't giving Romo much of a window. It takes the pressure off the draft and by sitting pat and using Plan C guys still doesn't make needing Plan A guys go away on draft day.

Plus in the draft you don't know if who you want will even be there. I covet Derric Henry bad in the 2nd, but he might not even be there. Then what? Last year they wanted a RB but Jerry said they took him and ruined there plan. What if Dmac would have gotten hurt? The Cmike and Turbin show? Scary stuff.

 

[Junglist]

Who says that besides him?

I've seen that on this board.

 

[HoustonSucks]

The Cowboys - aka Jerry Jones - once signed big names for huge money no matter the long-term implications.

Now, the Cowboys - collectively - sign nobody of note to anything of consequence no matter how great the need.

Surely, there's a happy medium in there somewhere.

Here's hoping to be surprised.

Felt this way for a few years. Completely agree.

 

[Nightman]

Baltimore, Denver, NE, and Seattle don't go crazy on week 1. You want to act like the Jets, Jags, Texans or Dolphins?

This is disappointing because I know most of the people complaining have been through free agency before.

Those are the last 4 SB champs. They bought themselves some patience.

We have been trying to copy them for years but we don't have Ozzie/Ray Lewis/Ed Reed, Peyton/Elway, Brady/Belichick/Kraft, Shermann/Thomas/Kam/Carroll.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Those are the last 4 SB champs. They bought themselves some patience.

We have been trying to copy them for years but we don't have Ozzie/Ray Lewis/Ed Reed, Peyton/Elway, Brady/Belichick/Kraft, Shermann/Thomas/Kam/Carroll.

We signed Carr in 2013. This is year three of the new style. I guess that is years but barely.

Jones bought himself some patience when he bought the team. Him and his family aren't going anywhere and complaining about it is a waste of time. We have been drafting better outside of some Jones uptrading but that was 4 years ago. We appear to have hit on 90.

If you don't believe in the program then it doesn't matter what they do. I think in terms of probabilities rather than ideological beliefs.

 

[birdwells1]

Those are the last 4 SB champs. They bought themselves some patience.

We have been trying to copy them for years but we don't have Ozzie/Ray Lewis/Ed Reed, Peyton/Elway, Brady/Belichick/Kraft, Shermann/Thomas/Kam/Carroll.

And all of those teams had significant contributions from free agents.

 

[Nightman]

We signed Carr in 2013. This is year three of the new style. I guess that is years but barely.

Jones bought himself some patience when he bought the team. Him and his family aren't going anywhere and complaining about it is a waste of time. We have been drafting better outside of some Jones uptrading but that was 4 years ago. We appear to have hit on 90.

If you don't believe in the program then it doesn't matter what they do. I think in terms of probabilities rather than ideological beliefs.

I understand where they are going: Stable coaching staff, strong drafting, less FA, use the comp picks program, be smart with second contracts, spend resources in the trenches.

But we have picked the wrong HC imo. We are drafting a lot better but still fail in rounds 5-7. It is like we have our own rating system for Day 3 that no one else agrees with. Comp picks are only valuable if they turn into players.

We picked Free, Beasley and TCrawford last year and the jury is still out.
DMurray was a mistake but they chose to build the OL. Parnell, Durant, Carter, Melton were hardly missed. DHarris hurt a bit.

i think they have fallen hard for the austerity budget when the salary cap is growing at an alarming rate. They were loose when the cap was stagnant and are tight when the cap is exploding. They are very close to the 89% cash spending floor. That is embarrassing for a team with 500m+ in revenues.

 

[Nightman]

And all of those teams had significant contributions from free agents.

That is why I listed their GMs/personnel guys.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I understand where they are going: Stable coaching staff, strong drafting, less FA, use the comp picks program, be smart with second contracts, spend resources in the trenches.

But we have picked the wrong HC imo. We are drafting a lot better but still fail in rounds 5-7. It is like we have our own rating system for Day 3 that no one else agrees with. Comp picks are only valuable if they turn into players.

We picked Free, Beasley and TCrawford last year and the jury is still out.
DMurray was a mistake but they chose to build the OL. Parnell, Durant, Carter, Melton were hardly missed. DHarris hurt a bit.

i think they have fallen hard for the austerity budget when the salary cap is growing at an alarming rate. They were loose when the cap was stagnant and are tight when the cap is exploding. They are very close to the 89% cash spending floor. That is embarrassing for a team with 500m+ in revenues.

Team plays and trains hard even when they suck. Locker room could have easily unraveled in the DFW pressure cooker and it didn't. You listen to them talk and they still sound like they buy in.

Weeden is the biggest mistake and it's concerning but its not the end of the world to me. I attribute the emphasis on line play to Garrett and Marinelli. I don't think they're a problem.

My issue is with defensive coverage scheme/implementation and QB development. Wade Wilson is still coach so I have plenty of doubts how that is going to go. Eberflus is now the coverage coordinator and I am an open book as to what that will entail.

OTOH, Jones, DLaw, both Crawfords, Scandrick, Church, Beasley, TWill, Dez, Fred, Smith, Martin, Collins, and Escobar I felt have all gotten better. Wilcox's time is running out.

 

[Nightman]

Team plays and trains hard even when they suck. Locker room could have easily unraveled in the DFW pressure cooker and it didn't. You listen to them talk and they still sound like they buy in.

Weeden is the biggest mistake and it's concerning but its not the end of the world to me. I attribute the emphasis on line play to Garrett and Marinelli. I don't think they're a problem.

My issue is with defensive coverage scheme/implementation and QB development. Wade Wilson is still coach so I have plenty of doubts how that is going to go. Eberflus is now the coverage coordinator and I am an open book as to what that will entail.

OTOH, Jones, DLaw, both Crawfords, Scandrick, Church, Beasley, TWill, Dez, Fred, Smith, Martin, Collins, and Escobar I felt have all gotten better. Wilcox's time is running out.

It is strange. We are better at UDFAs and cheap UFAs than we are with late round picks.

I think we put too much emphasis on the wrong things when we bring draftees in for visits.
Stuff like the blank playbook test from the Senior Bowl. Stick to drafting guys late that have fallen because of injuries or getting in trouble.

 

[ConstantReboot]

The Cowboys - aka Jerry Jones - once signed big names for huge money no matter the long-term implications.

Now, the Cowboys - collectively - sign nobody of note to anything of consequence no matter how great the need.

Surely, there's a happy medium in there somewhere.

Here's hoping to be surprised.

I think this is happening because of Stephen Jones. His not like his father and he certainly seems to be more of the cautious and someone that is too calculating. Not good if you want to build a real superbowl team like a Denver or Seattle.

Each one is extreme in their own way. Jerry is one that will sign anyone for big money regardless of consequences. Stephen doesn't want to sign anyone for big money despite the need for it. Its a lose-lose situation.

 

[waving monkey]

As long as the money rolls in, Jerry doesn't care.

bs

 

[mattjames2010]

Pretty much sums up this thread and half the other garbage should be rant zone threads created today.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It is strange. We are better at UDFAs and cheap UFAs than we are with late round picks.

I think we put too much emphasis on the wrong things when we bring draftees in for visits.
Stuff like the blank playbook test from the Senior Bowl. Stick to drafting guys late that have fallen because of injuries or getting in trouble.

I definitely agree on the injury angle. Even if they end up healthy they still might not be all that good as in Carter.

They've hedged their bets and invested heavily in their psychological department. I'm okay with that program. Even Wells is good at what he does even if he tries to control people after the fact.

 

[waving monkey]

I'm actually happy we're not paying elite contracts to middle of the line players. The Giants just made two middle of the pack players some of the highest paid in nfl history at their position. Passing on that madness is what smart teams do. I'll happily sit with the patriots, steelers, and packers at the table of did nothings.

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