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iceberg;1585842 said:
are we defending a 4th round pick by saying we get him and a spare lb vs. just some 4th round pick?

i thought my arguments got odd.

i think u quoted the wrong person...i think u should have quoted Cowboys22......at least based on your reply
 

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Biggems;1585846 said:
i think u quoted the wrong person...i think u should have quoted Cowboys22......at least based on your reply

sorry - i guess in the "real world" i would have been nudging you off to the side from what cowboy22 said in disbelief that we prove 1 4th rounder is worth it because the other one wasn't, based on being a 4th round pick.

and add glyph - there's teh value i suppose. but depth LB's aren't that hard to find, are they?
 

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We have Carp and I am not worried about Ellis he will play soon enough!
 

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dbair1967;1585747 said:
all of our OLB's/DE's expected to make the current roster >>> Robison

and that doesnt even count Carpenter and Burnett, each of whom can also play OLB and each of whom are more talented than Robison

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I thought my point was very easy to understand. If we had taken him instead of Stanback, Glymph would most likely not have a spot on the roster. I like how Glymph has developed and I like Stanback's potential so to me at this point, I'd rather have those two guys over Robison. Personally, I think Glymph may be just as good as him in our system. I'm not dissing Robison, he may turn out to be a great player but I'll go with our scouts and they liked Stanback better.
 

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dogunwo;1585878 said:
worst thread ever.

worth enough to get a response from you.

also, it has gotten over 20 replies...so it can't be the worst thread ever.
 

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Cowboys22;1585920 said:
I thought my point was very easy to understand. If we had taken him instead of Stanback, Glymph would most likely not have a spot on the roster. I like how Glymph has developed and I like Stanback's potential so to me at this point, I'd rather have those two guys over Robison. Personally, I think Glymph may be just as good as him in our system. I'm not dissing Robison, he may turn out to be a great player but I'll go with our scouts and they liked Stanback better.

yes cause our scouts never miss.....arent these the same scouts that took skylar green in the 4th round two years ago?
 

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Biggems;1585958 said:
yes cause our scouts never miss.....arent these the same scouts that took skylar green in the 4th round two years ago?

Sure, but I'd still go with them over some guy on a message board that just has a hard-on for a certain player he thinks we should have taken!
 

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dbair1967;1586053 said:
yeah, really

David
Why? He's a much better athlete than both Obomese or Glymph. He was a much higher rated prospect than either. He would actually push for some playing time at OLB, whereas neither of these guys will see the light of day unless there's an injury.
 

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Robinson would be competing for a roster spot with Glymph and Carp and spencer would play before him at the postion.

Theo i know you love measurables but at least Glymph has shown that he can compete on the NFL level.

Carp, Ware and Spencer are young and more than likely entrenched. They will all be here three years from now. i wold be stunned if Owens and Glenn are here so for the future Stanback makes better sense.

For the here and now Stanback has an opportunity to help as a PR cause we have Newman and a gaping hole behind him. Also in 4 WR sets he could see some action.

Robinson doesnt help us now and hes not going to help us later. Hes not a bad player but the only reason why we should have grabbed him is if we wouldnt have gotten Spencer. I love UT but the guy just doesnt make sense on this roster.
 

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I really wanted Robison too, but that was provided we went elsewhere other than LB w/ our 1st 2/3 picks
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1586065 said:
Robinson would be competing for a roster spot with Glymph and Carp and spencer would play before him at the postion.
He wouldn't be competing with Spencer or Carp. Nor would he be competing with Glymph. If Ellis isn't ready, retires, or just plain sucks, we'd need a backup to Ware (i.e., Glymph) and a backup to Spencer (i.e., Robison).

Theo i know you love measurables but at least Glymph has shown that he can compete on the NFL level.
He has shown, in his 3rd season in the league, that he might be a serviceable backup. That's not showing a whole lot, really.

Carp, Ware and Spencer are young and more than likely entrenched. They will all be here three years from now. i wold be stunned if Owens and Glenn are here so for the future Stanback makes better sense.

For the here and now Stanback has an opportunity to help as a PR cause we have Newman and a gaping hole behind him. Also in 4 WR sets he could see some action.

Robinson doesnt help us now and hes not going to help us later. Hes not a bad player but the only reason why we should have grabbed him is if we wouldnt have gotten Spencer. I love UT but the guy just doesnt make sense on this roster.
I'm not arguing that Robison should have been picked over Stanback. I'm just disagreeing with the silly statement that Obomese and Glymph are better than Robison.
 

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Robison will kick much *** in Minnesota. His vertical leap and FG blocking abilities are amazing.
 

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theogt;1586289 said:
He wouldn't be competing with Spencer or Carp. Nor would he be competing with Glymph. If Ellis isn't ready, retires, or just plain sucks, we'd need a backup to Ware (i.e., Glymph) and a backup to Spencer (i.e., Robison).

He has shown, in his 3rd season in the league, that he might be a serviceable backup. That's not showing a whole lot, really.

I'm not arguing that Robison should have been picked over Stanback. I'm just disagreeing with the silly statement that Obomese and Glymph are better than Robison.

Backup are more fluid than that. Carp can back up both ILB and OLB and Glymph can handle both SOLB and WOLB.

And Robison has shown absolutely nothing. Its not as if Glymph has gone out there and failed he just hasnt reached his ceiling yet.

Obomese I dont know enough about to comment on but Glymph is an improving player that has at this point shown that he can compete in this league. Hes gotten better every year so far and shouldnt just be discounted for some guy that underperformed at college.
 

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theogt;1586057 said:
Why? He's a much better athlete than both Obomese or Glymph. He was a much higher rated prospect than either. He would actually push for some playing time at OLB, whereas neither of these guys will see the light of day unless there's an injury.

and are Obomese or Glymph locks to make the team?

further, how do you know he'd push for any PT here rather than just sit and warm the pine like any other 3rd string OLB?

David
 

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theogt;1586289 said:
He wouldn't be competing with Spencer or Carp. Nor would he be competing with Glymph. If Ellis isn't ready, retires, or just plain sucks, we'd need a backup to Ware (i.e., Glymph) and a backup to Spencer (i.e., Robison).

He has shown, in his 3rd season in the league, that he might be a serviceable backup. That's not showing a whole lot, really.

I'm not arguing that Robison should have been picked over Stanback. I'm just disagreeing with the silly statement that Obomese and Glymph are better than Robison.

and right now, its silly to argue otherwise

David
 

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Biggems;1585805 said:
what does him being a 4th round pick have to do with anything? it doesnt matter where u are picked. if you can play, you can play.
Maybe because even the Vikings didn't want to draft him any earlier, and everyone else that could have, passed?

Just a thought...
 
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