Too many soft players

[ufcrules1]

You take to being programmed for simple spin phrases very well.

Why would we start a season with players over the hill like Newman, Brooking, and James on defense? Knowing that they are over the hill? Or did they just become over the hill this season?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Gotta read Fuzzbucket, gotta read.

I never said it did make an impression, but it does run the risk of it. In an ideal world I guess I'd rather my players and specifically my QB not go out there and predict Superbowls before the season started. I know he's playing to the crowd a bit but I don't like it. Let's leave the Superbowl predictions and ticket purchases to our owner.

So in other words you have no point as you can point to no place where your supposed risk actually had any impact. Thats nice. All that says is that your handwrining was pointless.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why would we start a season with players over the hill like Newman, Brooking, and James on defense? Knowing that they are over the hill? Or did they just become over the hill this season?

This thread was about being soft. You guys giving up on that now? This is a new tact.

 

[ufcrules1]

Costa is known for being physically limited but relentless. You guys just make stuff up as you go along it seems.

"Physically limited?" How about mentally limited? How the hell do you hike the ball over your QB'S head 3 times?

 

[tupperware]

So in other words you have no point as you can point to no place where your supposed risk actually had any impact. Thats nice. All that says is that your handwrining was pointless.

I didn't know that I had to have clear evidence to support the opinions I have on the forum of the team I follow? I'd rather my QB and owner not go out there and predict Superbowls before the year starts as I feel like it runs the risk of instilling the wrong kind of attitude in young players. That comes mainly from my own managerial experience.

 

[dboy214]

Generally speaking when people start going towards qualitative generalizations such as 'soft' as an explanation it is a clear sign that they have no clue what they are talking about.

There were plenty of games where the team exhibited mental toughness over and over again.

Newman could not run as fast as he once could. You saw that watching him play Cruz and Jackson. Thats why he played off. Its pretty obvious. When you say that he is 'soft,' I say you are clueless.

Bradie James and Keith Brooking cannot run. You should have been able to see that as teams would run slot receivers, backs and TE across their zones and they could not keep up. Carter was not used to playing run defense in a 3-4 alignment. He chose wrong gaps or would hesitate. Thats not soft. Soft is just a simplification for those that cannot or will not look deeper.

Our center has (hopefully had)short arms. He would lunge to try and make contact and DT would club him to the ground. We saw that over and over again. Before the season ever began we were going with low round draft picks and UDFA. Thats not soft. If anything its rebuilding an oline and overaggression.

A 'killer instinct' is not going to give those guys speed. We need to bring in better talent that can execute the proper techniques at the relative positions.

so you're falling for the excuse that everyone got old overnight?

 

[dboy214]

How's this for a bit of dboy back-at-cha. I was saying this back in 2010!!!111.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

so you're falling for the excuse that everyone got old overnight?

You going to attempt to refute a specific or you just going to stick with broad overgeneralizations?

I have no idea why Newman, James or Brooking cannot run well. Its immaterial. If you watched the games its pretty obvious that they could not. Watching Newman chase Cruz up the sideline displayed it very clearly nonetheless.

I know you want a generalization so you can have a simple answer but thats not how things work and thats not how you make things better. Attention to DETAIL and not dumbing things down is what makes a difference.

 

[tupperware]

You going to attempt to refute a specific or you just going to stick with broad overgeneralizations?

I have no idea why Newman, James or Brooking cannot run well. Its immaterial. If you watched the games its pretty obvious that they could not. Watching Newman chase Cruz up the sideline displayed it very clearly nonetheless.

I know you want a generalization so you can have a simple answer but thats not how things work and thats not how you make things better. Attention to DETAIL and not dumbing things down is what makes a difference.

So what you're saying is, it's not a lack of effort or any amount of softness that is the problem, the game has just passed guys like Newman by, yes?

 

[ufcrules1]

Looks like I found another blind homer to stick on my ignore list. It's like we are watching a totally different football team.

 

[dboy214]

You going to attempt to refute a specific or you just going to stick with broad overgeneralizations?

I have no idea why Newman, James or Brooking cannot run well. Its immaterial. If you watched the games its pretty obvious that they could not. Watching Newman chase Cruz up the sideline displayed it very clearly nonetheless.

I know you want a generalization so you can have a simple answer but thats not how things work and thats not how you make things better. Attention to DETAIL and not dumbing things down is what makes a difference.

not gonna waste my time giving you specifics to something so obvious. if you can't see this team is soft compared to the teams that played yesterday than that is an issue with you buddy.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I didn't know that I had to have clear evidence to support the opinions I have on the forum of the team I follow? I'd rather my QB and owner not go out there and predict Superbowls before the year starts as I feel like it runs the risk of instilling the wrong kind of attitude in young players. That comes mainly from my own managerial experience.

You do not need anything but if you want people to give your opinions credence. You were worried about something and as evidenced by Dez, Lee, Smith, Lissemore et al, it did not come to pass. Why you guys are having a circle jerk over it now a year later as if it has any merit whatsoever is beyond me.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

This thread was about being soft. You guys giving up on that now? This is a new tact.

Soft as **** paper, both mentally and physically.

From the Owner to the front office.... to the scouting to the product on the field.

Wait it was Bills fault, no..Gaily, wait Campo ...now take credit from Jimmy again.

:laugh2:

Jerry Jones head is firmly planted in his own orifice, Dallas Cowboy football is the NFLs perfect example of soft.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i ask for specifics and i get put on ignore. it should be obvious eh? Then it should be easy to point out the specifics yet you guys resort to ad hominem.

Homer? Give me a break. ive been trashing James, Newman and the lieks physical abilities. i just think you guys prefer things dumbed down and can actually give specifics as to why i believe that.

 

[burmafrd]

Looks like I found another blind homer to stick on my ignore list. It's like we are watching a totally different football team.

we are watching reality and you are watching something your mind made up.

At the rate you are putting people on ignore it won't be long before you are all alone.

Actually that may be a good thing. Keep it up

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So what you're saying is, it's not a lack of effort or any amount of softness that is the problem, the game has just passed guys like Newman by, yes?

I am not getting into the generalization game as much as you may try. That you guys thing, not mine.

 

[dboy214]

i ask for specifics and i get put on ignore. it should be obvious eh? Then it should be easy to point out the specifics yet you guys resort to ad hominem.

Homer? Give me a break. ive been trashing James, Newman and the lieks physical abilities. i just think you guys prefer things dumbed down and can actually give specifics as to why i believe that.

what do you want specifics about grumpylumpkins?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

what do you want specifics about grumpylumpkins?

What exactly is soft? What young players have been impacted by this supposed soft culture? Which players are 'soft' and how?

So far i have 'its obvious.'

 

[gbrittain]

Yeah, I have to commend Tupperware on his level-headed approach to the subject of Tony Romo and his discussion with you.

I don't necessarily agree with you in every point (some points I do agree with), but I don't see red because you criticize Romo.

Sorry tyke but criticism is not the problem here. It is the blame game that is the problem. No one is above criticism.

Think about this. Most all of your top pass rushers in the history of the NFL have played in a Super Bowl or at least a title game:

Bruce Smith
Reggie White
Kevin Greene
Chris Doleman
Michael Strahan
Jason Taylor
Richard Dent
John Randle
Lawrence Taylor
Leslie O'Neal
Derrick Thomas
Simeon Rice
Sean Jones
Jared Allen
Neil Smith
Kevin Carter
Dwight Freeney
Jim Jeffcoat
Charles Haley
Andre Tippett
Julius Peppers
Joey Porter
Robert Mathis
Terrell Suggs
Andre Carter
Shaun Ellis
Justin Smith
Osi Umeyiora
Trent Cole
James Hall
Will Smith
Shaun Phillips

Among the top active pass rushers (bold) that rank in the top 100 of all time only John Abraham, Demarcus Ware, and Vonnie Holliday have not led their defense to at least a title game.

Of course, I don't spend time busting on one of the few players contributing at a high level even though his individual performance has not translated into team success or even defensive success for that matter.

It is illogical. Most every one knows it. I am sure in every game that Dallas has lost Demarcus could have done more and the same goes for Romo. I have no issues with legitimately discussing Romo, but there are very few legitimate critical posts about Romo.

 

[tupperware]

I am not getting into the generalization game as much as you may try. That you guys thing, not mine.

It was actually an honest question. I did the same thing for Judas. I'm not attempting to bait you.