Top 5 players cap charges for 2022

[MountaineerCowboy]

So what do you propose? Should we jettison him right now because he is totally useless as a QB and therefore not worthy to be in this league never mind the Cowboys?

It's too late for what I suggest and that was never give him a deal like that in the first place.

The only option now is to ride it out until we can let him walk unless someone becomes desperate and will trade with us.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Say more about this....is it really that simple? I've always heard that nothing charged to the cap ever goes away you just move it around, but I also head that this was the hack the Rams have used too. A larger market team with cash on hand can pay money upfront as a signing bonus. It sort of makes sense but does this really erase the cap hit altogether?

If so it really changes my perspective on so many things. I care about the cap hit and cap management but could care less about how much money Jerry needs to pony up. Honestly it would shock me if Jerry isn't more aggressive with free agency if this move is really that simple

Either way, the way its structured makes you wonder if there is some truth to them not getting more help for the offense coz they wanna see Dak elevate his game.

 

[FanofJerry]

Man...sports message boards have been ruined by cap hawks. All the simulation wants to do is release hate and *****ing about paying players is its go to(symbolic? projection?).

Without putting too much thought into it...can we just shut the simulation up by implementing some sort of ceiling based on percentage of cap? Is that too hard based on a moving cap number year in year out?

Just non-stop b-tching about paying players is old.

Like do something like NBA where the team that has bird rights can offer the highest amount so player cant leave. Maybe NFL has this. But dont make the figure so low that the most important player is getting screwed by the percentage cap.

There has to be a way to shut the simulation up about top earners. Is it proud of itself for constantly b-tching about this stuff. Yeah...cap a top earner per team at 22% of cap with the ability to give performance bonus or something. But definitely dont screw the player.

 

[jterrell]

Say more about this....is it really that simple? I've always heard that nothing charged to the cap ever goes away you just move it around, but I also head that this was the hack the Rams have used too. A larger market team with cash on hand can pay money upfront as a signing bonus. It sort of makes sense but does this really erase the cap hit altogether?

If so it really changes my perspective on so many things. I care about the cap hit and cap management but could care less about how much money Jerry needs to pony up. Honestly it would shock me if Jerry isn't more aggressive with free agency if this move is really that simple

Dallas already has the void years on the deal so this was pre-designed to push that money forward.

Its the same move they made last year.
They could even add an additional void year to lower cap even more.
Eventually you pay the piper but generally only when the guy is released, traded or team decides to eat big cap hits for future release purposes.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Dallas already has the void years on the deal so this was pre-designed to push that money forward.

Its the same move they made last year.
They could even add an additional void year to lower cap even more.
Eventually you pay the piper but generally only when the guy is released, traded or team decides to eat big cap hits for future release purposes.

The same as with Romo and Aikman contracts?

 

[Hawkeye0202]

 

[jterrell]

The same as with Romo and Aikman contracts?

similar, yes but they didn't use void years back then.

dallas created the restructure stuff everyone uses now but a lot of other perfected it as dallas stopped doing it altogether to clean up the cap.

dallas is hording cap money right now for ceedee, micah and trevon
the qb is already accounted for.

 

[G2]

Waaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaa Dak, waaaaaaaaa

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

No need.
Flip 28M to SB and his cap hit falls by 21M.
Done and dusted.

His cap hit is 49 in 2023 and 52 in 2024. So by the time you move more money into his signing bonus you're just increasing his 2024 hit.

 

[zrinkill]

Jerry needs Dak to last long enough for him to draft his grandson.

 

[big dog cowboy]

For context ( see below ), Dak will be the 2nd highest in 2023 at $49M. My point, I'm guessing we have to address it after THIS season.

Your guessing? No need to. That's the way the Cowboys do business.

 

[jterrell]

His cap hit is 49 in 2023 and 52 in 2024. So by the time you move more money into his signing bonus you're just increasing his 2024 hit.

again it doesn't work that way.

They will lower the cap hit every year either by "scheduled restructure" or extension or adding void years.
Void years costs Dak nothing so a free mechanism.

There is a small gamble here of course as if Dak was seriously injured your stuck.
but outside that you are simply floating that money along.

When he gets extended which is likely to be before the first league day of 2024 they'll remove the void designations from the early years, hand him a massive signing bonus and a minimum salary.
It'll get that yearly down to around 30M. And they'll continue on that path.

There are like 8 QBs making more than Dak go look at how their cap hits are stretched out.
Rodgers is making 28M, 31M, then 40M, 59M, and 53M.
After 2 years they'll move that money if he is still around for year 3.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

again it doesn't work that way.

They will lower the cap hit every year either by "scheduled restructure" or extension or adding void years.
Void years costs Dak nothing so a free mechanism.

There is a small gamble here of course as if Dak was seriously injured your stuck.
but outside that you are simply floating that money along.

When he gets extended which is likely to be before the first league day of 2024 they'll remove the void designations from the early years, hand him a massive signing bonus and a minimum salary.
It'll get that yearly down to around 30M. And they'll continue on that path.

There are like 8 QBs making more than Dak go look at how their cap hits are stretched out.
Rodgers is making 28M, 31M, then 40M, 59M, and 53M.
After 2 years they'll move that money if he is still around for year 3.

A signing bonus is stretched across the remaining years of a contract. If you turn 28 million into a signing bonus, on a contract that has three years left, you're adding 9 million a year. That's why teams tend to restructure players with at least five years left.

 

[MyFairLady]

When you are a perennial super bowl contender like ourselves it makes sense to keep kicking the can down the road to keep the super bowl window open as long as possible.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

again it doesn't work that way.

They will lower the cap hit every year either by "scheduled restructure" or extension or adding void years.
Void years costs Dak nothing so a free mechanism.

There is a small gamble here of course as if Dak was seriously injured your stuck.
but outside that you are simply floating that money along.

When he gets extended which is likely to be before the first league day of 2024 they'll remove the void designations from the early years, hand him a massive signing bonus and a minimum salary.
It'll get that yearly down to around 30M. And they'll continue on that path.

There are like 8 QBs making more than Dak go look at how their cap hits are stretched out.
Rodgers is making 28M, 31M, then 40M, 59M, and 53M.
After 2 years they'll move that money if he is still around for year 3.

Additionally, people want to ignore the fact that his cap hit the first two years of the extension were 17.2m and 19.7m...way lower than many of the other QB contracts. It is all a chess game moving the money around but people refuse to believe it despite the fact that it gets moved around year after year. If we wanted to cut him after next year and do nothing on his deal it would be a cap savings from what it is currently on the books. It is also the reason why the most important thing in the deals is the signing bonus and the guaranteed money. Total value means almost nothing in reality.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

From over the cap, we can restructure Dak, Zeke, Tyron, Tank, Zack and Gallup and save over 60m in cap space and still have the player. We can make 15m alone by cutting Zeke and Tyron as regular cuts, or save almost 25m by making them June 1st hits. Armstrong and Hooker can be cut for good savings either way as normal cut or June cut. People just need to get over the cap woes thing. As long as they can push hits out it really isn't much concern. And if you are in a bad cap spot, you generally can get out in 2 years at most. Time to cut the dead weight and older vets and start anew.

 

[aikemirv]

For context ( see below ), Dak will be the 2nd highest in 2023 at $49M. My point, I'm guessing we have to address it after THIS season.


https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/2023/cap-hit/

Don't know why they would need to address it. They won't spend the money anyway and they should have a carryover of 20 mil from this season right?

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Don't know why they would need to address it. They won't spend the money anyway and they should have a carryover of 20 mil from this season right?

The current carryover amount is less than 12m and we only have 43 people under contract. So, yeah, they are going to have to make a few accounting moves.

The good news is that we really don't have much in the way of MUST free agents that need to be signed.

 

[JoeKing]

We are never getting this guy off our roster until he decides to retire.

 

[MapleLeaf]

It's too late for what I suggest and that was never give him a deal like that in the first place.

The only option now is to ride it out until we can let him walk unless someone becomes desperate and will trade with us.

So when the contract was up is it your opinion that we should have let him walk, and move onto to whomever FA or draft pick we could get at the time?

Do you think the other teams in the league would have thought us brilliant or foolish?