Top things I've learned in the Zone this year

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#15. Yards gained is a misleading statistic for deciding how good our offense is - look at how few points they score!
#16. Points allowed is a misleading statistic for deciding how good our defense is - look at all the yards they give up!
 

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pancakeman;3145103 said:
#13. Garrett should be fired because his simple-minded playcalling can be predicted by every opposing defense.
#14. Garrett should be fired because his Ivy-League overthinking makes him get too cute in his playcalling.

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Idgit;3145120 said:
Did we run and then pass on the goal line in the Eagles game where Romo threw the pic by throwing behind Witten? I think we might have all possible combinations covered.

That drive was pass pass pass only. What are you talking about? We pretty much passed the ball all the way down and then threw a pick, it wouldn't have hurt to try to run Barber on that play. Did u not read my post??? It's either pass pass pass only or run run run only that kills us, we need to mix it up some...
 

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CowboyFan74;3145181 said:
That drive was pass pass pass only. What are you talking about? We pretty much passed the ball all the way down and then threw a pick, it wouldn't have hurt to try to run Barber on that play. Did u not read my post??? It's either pass pass pass only or run run run only that kills us, we need to mix it up some...

It was a question. It was the GB game, btw, and that drive was all passes, so I guess we don't have the whole spectrum covered after all.
 

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Maikeru-sama;3145040 said:
So in other words, you are here to defend Garrett :) ?

Nothing wrong with that at all, but it is what it is.

Yeah, I noticed that many of them were Garrett-centric. I don't really care to attack or defend him, but it does seem (to me, anyway) that the anti-Garrett posts are the ones most likely to contain wildly contradictory justifications.
 

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jimnabby;3145223 said:
Yeah, I noticed that many of them were Garrett-centric. I don't really care to attack or defend him, but it does seem (to me, anyway) that the anti-Garrett posts are the ones most likely to contain wildly contradictory justifications.

The need for mixing it up is not contradictory at all. When u have a play caller only running a certain type of play over and over people will take notice...
 

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Bach;3145077 said:
The defense played well most of the game. But right after we march 99 yards to tie the game and desperately need to hold them - right after Ware got injured and these guys needed to make a gut check, boom - two plays and we're down 17-10. They may have only gave up 20 points and played well most of the day, but they cracked and couldn't stop anything once we tied it up and then Ware left. Those other 10 guys + Ware's replacement really came up big, eh?

We lost our best player.
We lost our best pass rusher.
We were facing one of the 2 or 3 best passing offenses in football.
We gave up two long pass plays.

I will never understand how people can look at those facts and immediately conclude that what was missing on those two plays was "guts" or "heart". We didn't get beat on those plays because of character flaws. We got beat because of an imbalance in talent and execution.
 

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jimnabby;3144608 said:
I have read every one of these things this season either here or in chat. Just wanted to gather all my learnings in one place.

1. When pass plays fail at the one-yard line, it's Garrett's fault for not running every down.
2. When run plays fail at the one-yard line, it's Garrett's fault for not passing.
3. When the defense holds teams to the fewest points they've scored all season and the Cowboys lose anyway, the defense (a) is the reason the team lost and (b) has no heart.
4. When the offense scores 30+ points and the Cowboys lose anyway, the offense (a) is the reason the team lost and (b) has no heart.
5. The Cowboys run too many screen plays, so Garrett should be fired.
6. The Cowboys never run screen plays, so Garrett should be fired.
7. Garrett is terrible because he only takes what the defense gives.
8. Garrett is terrible because he attacks the strength of the defense instead of taking what the defense gives.
9. Third-down plays that result in dumpoffs behind the line to gain were designed that way from the start, so Garrett should be fired.
10. Good RBs never ever fumble in game-critical situations, like late in the first quarter.
11. Defenses that lose their best player to injury usually improve in performance. Failure to do so means that the players have no heart.

Yeagermeister;3144744 said:
Spot on jim :bow:

Are you sure that wasn't abby? I can never tell.
 

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jimnabby;3144608 said:
I have read every one of these things this season either here or in chat. Just wanted to gather all my learnings in one place.

1. When pass plays fail at the one-yard line, it's Garrett's fault for not running every down.
2. When run plays fail at the one-yard line, it's Garrett's fault for not passing.
3. When the defense holds teams to the fewest points they've scored all season and the Cowboys lose anyway, the defense (a) is the reason the team lost and (b) has no heart.
4. When the offense scores 30+ points and the Cowboys lose anyway, the offense (a) is the reason the team lost and (b) has no heart.
5. The Cowboys run too many screen plays, so Garrett should be fired.
6. The Cowboys never run screen plays, so Garrett should be fired.
7. Garrett is terrible because he only takes what the defense gives.
8. Garrett is terrible because he attacks the strength of the defense instead of taking what the defense gives.
9. Third-down plays that result in dumpoffs behind the line to gain were designed that way from the start, so Garrett should be fired.
10. Good RBs never ever fumble in game-critical situations, like late in the first quarter.
11. Defenses that lose their best player to injury usually improve in performance. Failure to do so means that the players have no heart.

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CowboyFan74;3145229 said:
The need for mixing it up is not contradictory at all. When u have a play caller only running a certain type of play over and over people will take notice...

Give me a break. When we threw the fades in the Carolina game, there were plenty of people in here saying that we should never ever throw the ball inside the 5. Plus, we did run in that series: 1 run, 2 passes. I guess that was the wrong formula, too.
 

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These gems were provided by our local village idiot.

DaBoys4Life said:
Philly lost to Oakland this year....

When will people realize that nothing is a gimme in this league.

DaBoys4Life said:
If you say so when Romo couldn't even beat a terrible Commanders team in December but hey it's a NFCE division rivalry game those things are toss ups....:rolleyes:

#17: Anybody can beat anybody else on any given Sunday

#18: Romo sucks because his team lost to an inferior team. Games are NEVER toss ups and the better team ALWAYS wins!
 

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jimnabby;3145255 said:
Give me a break. When we threw the fades in the Carolina game, there were plenty of people in here saying that we should never ever throw the ball inside the 5. Plus, we did run in that series: 1 run, 2 passes. I guess that was the wrong formula, too.

Give me a break, we won the Carolina game.:rolleyes:

The three back to back fades was dumb just like the three back to back runs was dumb, no mixing it up there but go ahead and be argumentative...
 

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CowboyFan74;3145304 said:
Give me a break, we won the Carolina game.:rolleyes:

The three back to back fades was dumb just like the three back to back runs was dumb, no mixing it up there but go ahead and be argumentative...

Huh? It was two fades, not three. And they followed a run. As I said.
 

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jimnabby;3145307 said:
Huh? It was two fades, not three. And they followed a run. As I said.

I don't recall them following it with a run, I recall the pass failed but not which pass exactly...
 

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CowboyFan74;3145330 said:
I don't recall them following it with a run, I recall the pass failed but not which pass exactly...

Let's try this again. They didn't follow the passes with a run, the passes followed a run. Like this: First down, run. Second down, pass. Third down, pass. Fourth down, FG. Common CowboysZone response: never ever pass at the goal line.
 

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jimnabby;3145340 said:
Let's try this again. They didn't follow the passes with a run, the passes followed a run. Like this: First down, run. Second down, pass. Third down, pass. Fourth down, FG. Common CowboysZone response: never ever pass at the goal line.

Ok but why bring up a game that we won, especially against one of the weakest teams in the league? Or how 'bout Run Pass Run? Especially that close to the endzone? You gotta admit we pass way to much and when we do run, we run to the point of failure. You don't see the trend?
 

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CowboyFan74;3145360 said:
Ok but why bring up a game that we won, especially against one of the weakest teams in the league? Or how 'bout Run Pass Run? Especially that close to the endzone? You gotta admit we pass way to much and when we do run, we run to the point of failure. You don't see the trend?


I like that...

We pass too much AND run too much!

Damn that Garrett.
 
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