Top three Cowboy coaches of all time

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Who are your top three Cowboy coaches of all time?

CrazyCowboy likes in order


1. Tom Landry

2. Jimmy Johnson

3. Bill Parcells

I am just curious if any Zoners believe Campo, Switzer, Galley, deserve more consideration?
 

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1. Dave Campo
2. Chan Gailey
3. Barry Switzer

Just kidding. :)

I think most would go with:

1. Tom Landry
2. Jimmy Johnson
3. Bill Parcells

We just don't have a long line of coaches (due to Landry's longevity), and Gailey, Campo, and Switzer obviously aren't going to be the tops for many people. I think you give Landry the nod over Jimmy as Landry was solid through the late 60s, 70s, and early 80s (its a shame they didn't get more Super Bowls during this time period), and Johnson obviously goes over Parcells as Johnson had 3 Super Bowls in Dallas while Parcells has none.
 

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Well now my BP impression "good question...really it is"

Tom took us to 5 and won 2 and got robbed in 3 of them

Jimmy took us to 2 and won both

Barry took us to 1 and won


Bill took us...hmmm... where has Bill taken us? OH yeah I remember now Bill has taken us to the same place Dave Campo has 0, Zero, Zip, nada playoff wins

I think Chan won us one playoff game and Chan also swept all NFC East opponents one year...

so I think the ranking has to look like this

Tom, JJ, BS, CG, BP, DC

atleast that is what the records say... and you are what your record says at least according to Bill

Some people have a hard time seperating the Bill of Legend and the Bill of today
 

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What has BP done for us lately? Throw out what he has done in the past.

I honestly don't know that you belongs in the top 3 yet.....Honestly, Chan has more wins than BP does in the same amount of time does he not? Forget about him "inheriting" players".

1. Tom Landry
2. Jimmy Johnson
3. Barry Switzer. (It's all about the rings). :)
 

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Zaxor said:
Well now my BP impression "good question...really it is"

Tom took us to 5 and won 2 and got robbed in 3 of them

Jimmy took us to 2 and won both

Barry took us to 1 and won


Bill took us...hmmm... where has Bill taken us? OH yeah I remember now Bill has taken us to the same play Dave Campo has 0, Zero, Zip, nada playoff wins

I think Chan won us one playoff game and Chan also swept all NFC East opponents one year...

so I think the ranking has to look like this

Tom, JJ, BS, CG, BP, DC

atleast that is what the records say... and you are what your record says at least according to Bill

Some people have a hard time seperating the Bill of Legend and the Bill of today

Sorry bro, but I will NEVER rank Barry Switzer higher than a roast beef sandwich, especially not higher than Bill Parcells.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
Sorry bro, but I will NEVER rank Barry Switzer higher than a roast beef sandwich, especially not higher than Bill Parcells.

You may not like Barry but the guy won where ever he went
 

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1. Tom Landry
2. Jimmy Johnson
3. Bill Parcells
 

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Zaxor said:
You may not like Barry but the guy won where ever he went

This is true.

Change BP's name and the guy would be run out of here. Earlier poster was correct...come can't separate what BP did for other teams to what he has done thus far. Not saying he hasn't done a fine job, but.....we are what we are. Didn't someone "highly" respected say that?
 

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Landry, Jimmie and Parcells and too mention any of the other 3 in the same sentence as Landry is a disgrace.
 

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I think Barry was given a gift,like Jerry said,anyone
of 500 coaches could take them to the Super Bowl.I
know Bill didn't get handed anywhere near the talent that
Switzer got to enjoy.

1. Tom Landry

2. Jimmy Johnson

3. Bill Parcells
 

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Chan did not win any playoff games. Lost at home to Arizona in 1998 and Minnesota in 1999. Both those teams had more talent than Dallas has had the last few years. He underachieved with both of them. I am not saying he needed to win the Superbowl, but he needed to do more than lose in the first round of the playoffs and also finish better than 8-8 in 1999.

In 1998, Dallas did beat every NFC East team and then only went 2-6 for the rest of their schedule including 0 wins on the road. Arizona was the second best team in the NFCE that season, so that shows you how weak the division was at that time.
 

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Jimz31 said:
I honestly don't know that you belongs in the top 3 yet.....Honestly, Chan has more wins than BP does in the same amount of time does he not? Forget about him "inheriting" players".

:)


You can't forget about him inheriting players because that's all that his tenure was. Add this to the pot: We are more respectable with BP than we were with Chan or Barry. The rings will add up with time. If we had given Chan more time, where would we be right now? Dallas Cowboys=New Arizona Cardinals!
 

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All I know is if Bill Parcells had inherited the same talent Barry Switzer did, we would have won the 94 and 95 Super Bowl, and probably never dropped out of the Playoff in 97. Our drafts would have looked a hell of a lot better too.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
All I know is if Bill Parcells had inherited the same talent Barry Switzer did, we would have won the 94 and 95 Super Bowl, and probably never dropped out of the Playoff in 97. Our drafts would have looked a hell of a lot better too.

I don't believe that for a minute...

Bill would have changed that Defense to a 3-4 and may have traded Aikman for Simms... and a bunch of those other stars may have had problems with Bill and been gone also...

John Madden said that there where very, very few coaches who could have come in and not messed that whole situation up...
 

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I don't believe that for a minute...

Bill would have changed that Defense to a 3-4 and may have traded Aikman for Simms... and a bunch of those other stars may have had problems with Bill and been gone also...

John Madden said that there where very, very few coaches who could have come in and not messed that whole situation up...

If he kept the 4-3 intact when he took over a 5-11 Cowboys team in 2003, why would he suddenly change it on the 94 Cowboys when he was taking over a defense that statistically had been at the top of the league for the last few seasons and had monsters like Haley, Tolbert, Lett, and others.

Bill would NOT trade Aikman for Simms. LOL First of all, Simms was out of the league already so that kind of ruins that theory, but even if he was playing, Parcells does not get rid of Pro Bowlers for bologne. He brought in Vinny Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe because our QBs were Quincy Carter and Chad Hutchinson, or an unpoven Drew Henson.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
If he kept the 4-3 intact when he took over a 5-11 Cowboys team in 2003, why would he suddenly change it on the 94 Cowboys when he was taking over a defense that statistically had been at the top of the league for the last few seasons and had monsters like Haley, Tolbert, Lett, and others.

Bill would NOT trade Aikman for Simms. LOL First of all, Simms was out of the league already so that kind of ruins that theory, but even if he was playing, Parcells does not get rid of Pro Bowlers for bologne. He brought in Vinny Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe because our QBs were Quincy Carter and Chad Hutchinson, or an unpoven Drew Henson.

Look something doesn't and hasn't set with me for awhile... we had the #1 Defense that year...but it needed some things to become a pressure Defense... we needed a pass rusher (Berry) was the best out there but we low balled him badly and almost paid as much (I think 800,000 less) for Wiley...we needed a CB maybe 2... many were out there but we did nothing so on etc.. there was also quotes in the paper that Parcells kept tinkering with the plays and players on Defense that year... WHY?

Simms Played till 93 in 94 Dan Reeves and the Giants were no longer willing to pay Simms that much money as they had drafted Dave Brown to replace him...If Bill had come into the league in 94 Bill would have picked up Simms I am pretty sure...he may also have traded for LT...who knows... but one thing you and I know is that Bill does things his way and that way may and probably would have ruined that run...
 

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CrazyCowboy said:
Who are your top three Cowboy coaches of all time?

CrazyCowboy likes in order


1. Tom Landry

2. Jimmy Johnson

3. Bill Parcells

I am just curious if any Zoners believe Campo, Switzer, Galley, deserve more consideration?

thats not really much of a discussion, Im sure 99% of cowboy fans as well as anyone for that matter would say the same.
 

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fiveandcounting said:
thats not really much of a discussion, Im sure 99% of cowboy fans as well as anyone for that matter would say the same.

Initially, I would have agreed with you, however, after reading the posts from some of the Zoners they are making a very good case that BP may not belong.

I have read some very good points favoring coaches other then BP......I may reconsider due to reading these posts!

Super Bowl wins.....wins in playoffs and regular season has to be evaluated....and the biggie.....it has to be with the Cowboys.
 

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CrazyCowboy said:
Initially, I would have agreed with you, however, after reading the posts from some of the Zoners they are making a very good case that BP may not belong.

I have read some very good points favoring coaches other then BP......I may reconsider due to reading these posts!

Super Bowl wins.....wins in playoffs and regular season has to be evaluated....and the biggie.....it has to be with the Cowboys.

and that really is the point isn't it...now if you had asked...how would we rank them all time...I might have Parcells 2nd with Jimmy being third
 
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