Tracy Porter Runs A 4.33 At ProDay...

[Bob Sacamano]

That scares me, too... But what Rack said is probably the best thing I've seen about Porter. Reeves was fast, but never struck me as very nimble.

Here's something I've asked on other boards but have never gotten an answer... Will he tackle?

the knock on him is that he's an inconsistent tackler, meaning sometimes he won't attack the ball-carrier w/ the same effort as he does at other times

 

[masomenos]

Porter gave up 5 TDs and a completion percentage of just under 60% his senior year. He was also charged with nine penalties. He gave up almost 13 yards per completion and 7.5 yards per attempt. Of the top CBs he had the worst production.

He did have 6 INTs but he was also targeted more than any of the top CBs by a considerable margin, giving him just an average interception per pass attempt rate. Of the 91 one times he was thrown at he made 10 plays on the ball (6 ints 4 deflections), that too is the worst percentage among the top CBs.

But hey he did run a 4.3

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Porter gave up 5 TDs and a completion percentage of just under 60% his senior year. He was also charged with nine penalties. He gave up almost 13 yards per completion and 7.5 yards per attempt. Of the top CBs he had the worst production.

He did have 6 INTs but he was also targeted more than any of the top CBs by a considerable margin, giving him just an average interception per pass attempt rate. Of the 91 one times he was thrown at he made 10 plays on the ball (6 ints 4 deflections), that too is the worst percentage among the top CBs.

But hey he did run a 4.3

the dude has alot of skills though

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

NFL | Porter works out at Pro Day
Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:26:59 -0800
Tony Pauline, of SportsIllustrated.com, reports University of Indiana CB Tracy Porter worked out at his school's Pro Day this week. Porter ran a 4.33 40-yard dash, while he ran a 4.45 40-yard dash at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine.


I been loving this kid for awhile and could be @22 if other CB's are gone. IMO, this kids stock is on the rise in a big way. Remember, he is from the PortAllen, LA area.

Porter has been compared to Newman by some.

Porter had 83 Tackles, 4 PBU and 6 picks this year.

BTW just incase some of you didnt know. i just wanna give you an inside track from Raider nation. the raiders are gonna pick this guy up with there pick i believe with there 2nd pick. no way does this guy go in the 1st lets be real...

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

he has some work to do, but he's an athlete and a playmaker, he could be our starting punt returner from Day 1

he has great feet and is smooth as they come

No thanks....

Id rather have someone call for a fair catch...

 

[jobberone]

He ran 4.37 at the combine. Just saying.

Thanks for that info and I love the sig. I'm sure they are all over the top twenty CBs. Probably all of them in the country.

 

[masomenos]

the dude has alot of skills though

He has a lot of athleticism, but so does Jacques Reeves. Athleticism and skill don't go hand in hand though. When players have skill they are able to produce, Porter hasn't proven that ability. So we have a CB who wasn't that good in college, has questions regarding his ability/willingness to help against the run, has questions regarding his intelligence, and is noted for being slow in reading and reacting to plays.

Those things combined out weigh athleticism without question, in my book.

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[Manwiththeplan]

FWIW, I think the Reeves/Porter comparisons are off

Reeves' pro day #s

40 yard dash- 4.45
short shuttle- 4.12
three cone- 6.62
60 yard shuttle- 11.22
Vertical Jump- 31''
Bench Reps- 14
Broad Jump- 9'5''

Porter's combine/pro day #s

40 yard dash- 4.30
short shuttle- 4.07
three cone- 7.20
60 yard shuttle- ?
Vertical Jump- 34'
Bench Reps- 18
Broad Jump- 10'3''

So as far as athleticism goes, Porter is superior to Reeves (Reeves did better in the three cone drill that was it). Will it translate on the field, I think so, but you never know.

 

[masomenos]

FWIW, I think the Reeves/Porter comparisons are off

Reeves' pro day #s

40 yard dash- 4.45
short shuttle- 4.12
three cone- 6.62
60 yard shuttle- 11.22
Vertical Jump- 31''
Bench Reps- 14
Broad Jump- 9'5''

Porter's combine/pro day #s

40 yard dash- 4.30
short shuttle- 4.07
three cone- 7.20
60 yard shuttle- ?
Vertical Jump- 34'
Bench Reps- 18
Broad Jump- 10'3''

So as far as athleticism goes, Porter is superior to Reeves (Reeves did better in the three cone drill that was it). Will it translate on the field, I think so, but you never know.

The difference between Porter and Reeves short shuttle is so small that it isn't statistically relevant. Reeves' three cone drill, measuring agility and change of direction skills was significantly higher than Porters. Then you have a 3 inch advantage to Porter in vertical, but both 31" and 34" are average scores, nothing special. Porter does have real advantages in 40 yard speed, broad jump and bench though. Is Porter a better athlete, yes, but not by as much as the numbers make it seem when you glance at them. Does that make Reeves a bad athlete? No. Their shortcoming on the field are where the real comparisons are, neither was good at reading and reacting to plays in college, and both had questions regarding their run support.

The share some "positive" traits too, both are listed as having good natural hands for the INT, both are noted for their ability to jump up and get the ball and both liked to keep the play in front of them in college. They are incredibly similar players and I don't understand what would make anyone think Porter could be successful at the NFL level when he wasn't very successful in college. It doesn't matter how fast you are if you're slow to diagnose plays, it instantly negates a players speed. And really, how often is that speed going to be tested in 40 yard straight lines? Occasionally sure, but not all the time. A lot of the coverage will be within 20 yards and the difference in 20 yard splits for 4.3 players vs. 4.45 players is normally so small that it has no effect.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He has a lot of athleticism, but so does Jacques Reeves. Athleticism and skill don't go hand in hand though. When players have skill they are able to produce, Porter hasn't proven that ability. So we have a CB who wasn't that good in college, has questions regarding his ability/willingness to help against the run, has questions regarding his intelligence, and is noted for being slow in reading and reacting to plays.

Those things combined out weigh athleticism without question, in my book.

so UFA then?

 

[masomenos]

so UFA then?

No I'm sure he'll go second round, but I wouldn't touch him before we pick in the 3rd and that wouldn't even be 100%. I believe, he'll be a Nickel or Dime guy in the NFL but will struggle significantly if ever put in a starters role. If he had of held up well in college and/or if he didn't have a critical flaw for his position then it'd be a different story.

 

[hendog]

He ran 4.37 at the combine. Just saying.

And got his *** handed to him him at the senior bowl.

 

[Nors]

Remember to add back close to .005 .10 to all these Pro day #'s

handheld times are unofficial and usually .005 - .10 faster than combine

 

[Woods]

No I'm sure he'll go second round, but I wouldn't touch him before we pick in the 3rd and that wouldn't even be 100%. I believe, he'll be a Nickel or Dime guy in the NFL but will struggle significantly if ever put in a starters role. If he had of held up well in college and/or if he didn't have a critical flaw for his position then it'd be a different story.

IMO, and I'm obviously no scout or personnel man, but I always think first priority is production on the field. The Combine should be helpful with the interview process with potential players and basically confirm what you saw on the field over the last 3-4 years on that player.

I sometimes think that the last 3-4 years of production are sometimes given too little weighting by many FANS, and a great Combine can almost negate all the problems or issues that player had over 3-4 years in college.

 

[TVMan]

And got his *** handed to him him at the senior bowl.

Elaborate please. Just curious.