Trade/Draft Scenario with Texans

[Hiero]

Out of curiosity, why would Houston pass up on Reggie Bush just to draft a home state kid, and trade a more experienced QB away? If they don't take Bush they will trade down and fix OL.

I dunno at this point, I think Domanick Davis has proven a lot more than Carr. Plus Young is the hometown star. Both of them are equally talented imo. I just think Vince Young being from Houston it will be too hard to pass up. The fans will go crazy if they pass on him. I think Davis is the better player between him and Carr. Young would put butts in the seats and having arunning QB isnt a bad idea with that bad of an Oline. If they got a 2nd or 3rd rd pick for Carr they could use that towards OL as well as in the 2nd, there should be one of the good tackles still available.

 

[Hiero]

I would give up a first round for Carr....

- Mike G.

Why? He isnt better than Bledsoe. He's taken a vicious beating in Houston. He makes a lot of the same mistakes Bledsoe does too. Carr will be 27 next year. Do we really want a 27 year old who has taken a beating his entire career to come sit behind Bledsoe for two years and then take over for us at age 29? And we give up a first rd pick when we have a big need for another LB and RT and other big holes. Carr doesnt solve anything for us. I just cannot fathom why anyone would give up a 1st rder for him.

 

[Hostile]

I acutally don't find the idea of them drafting Vince Young far fetched.

One could argue that the mentality to take a Reggie Bush is the Same for taking a Vince Young....the already have a Starting QB and RB and need help on the Oline.

Vince would provide them with a home state product to sell tickets...a mobile QB to tread water until the O-Line is fixed.

I also read somewhere, and I have no clue if it was legit or complete trash, that Reggie bush said he would play anywhere but with the Houston Texans.

Now the part I found Far Fetched is the idea that they would Draft him, then get Steve McNair and then the Cowboys would give them a first round pick for David Carr.

I find it far fatched for only 1 reason, it isn't their greatest need.

Then again, I don't think RB is either. I like Domanick Davis.

They have to fix OL. If they are going to wheel and deal it needs to be to trade down, stockpile picks and go OL.

 

[Hiero]

I find it far fatched for only 1 reason, it isn't their greatest need.

Then again, I don't think RB is either. I like Domanick Davis.

They have to fix OL. If they are going to wheel and deal it needs to be to trade down, stockpile picks and go OL.

I think before the championship game, they were planning to trade down and get d'brickashaw or a guy like Jon Scott. I think after the game, Young is too much of a legend there to pass on. PLus I think winning the national championship will make Young come out, whereas he might have probably stayed if they lost.

 

[WoodysGirl]

sorry to break your hearts...


Texans | Carr to stick around
Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:44:47 -0800

ESPN reports the Houston Texans plan to pick up the $8 million bonus on QB David Carr's contract, keeping him under contract with the team through the 2008 season.

 

[joseephuss]

I find it far fatched for only 1 reason, it isn't their greatest need.

Then again, I don't think RB is either. I like Domanick Davis.

They have to fix OL. If they are going to wheel and deal it needs to be to trade down, stockpile picks and go OL.

I like Davis as well. Was really hoping Dallas could grab him in the 4th that year, but Houston grabbed him first. He is sort of like Julius Jones, effective when he plays, but has injury problems. Houston could trade him to a team and gain an extra pick. They could then draft Bush with their #1. They wold still have Johnathon Wells and Verand Morency on the team and both are servicable to go with what could be a very dynamic Bush.

In some ways, Houston is in a tough position on what to do. They also have a few options to play with.

 

[Derinyar]

I find it far fatched for only 1 reason, it isn't their greatest need.

Then again, I don't think RB is either. I like Domanick Davis.

They have to fix OL. If they are going to wheel and deal it needs to be to trade down, stockpile picks and go OL.

The problem is that doesn't put butts in seats. Drafting Bush or Young likely does that. I guess it depends on whether or not they are trying to keep the franchise profitable or make it winning.

 

[Hiero]

sorry to break your hearts...


Texans | Carr to stick around
Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:44:47 -0800

ESPN reports the Houston Texans plan to pick up the $8 million bonus on QB David Carr's contract, keeping him under contract with the team through the 2008 season.

very interesting. I dont think its a done deal yet so i guess time will tell.

 

[joseephuss]

The problem is that doesn't put butts in seats. Drafting Bush or Young likely does that. I guess it depends on whether or not they are trying to keep the franchise profitable or make it winning.

Winning puts butts in the seats.

 

[Derinyar]

Winning puts butts in the seats.

Winning takes more time than drafting Vince Young or Reggie Bush.

 

[Hostile]

Winning takes more time than drafting Vince Young or Reggie Bush.

The point is they don't need to start all over again. Which is what they would be doing to bail on Carr this soon, and it looks like Carr is going nowhere.

Bush or OL is the direction they go. If it's OL, watch them trade down for someone greedy for Bush or Young.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Why? He isnt better than Bledsoe. He's taken a vicious beating in Houston. He makes a lot of the same mistakes Bledsoe does too. Carr will be 27 next year. Do we really want a 27 year old who has taken a beating his entire career to come sit behind Bledsoe for two years and then take over for us at age 29? And we give up a first rd pick when we have a big need for another LB and RT and other big holes. Carr doesnt solve anything for us. I just cannot fathom why anyone would give up a 1st rder for him.

Clue...

Go look at his age....

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I find it far fatched for only 1 reason, it isn't their greatest need.

Then again, I don't think RB is either. I like Domanick Davis.

They have to fix OL. If they are going to wheel and deal it needs to be to trade down, stockpile picks and go OL.

I agree they need to trade down and get O-Line...but I would not put nothing past a team.

I have seen The lions take 3 WRs with first round picks in a row even though that was not a major need.

I have seen the texans and packers take a QB in almost every recent draft even though they could have used a player at a different position.

So in that respect I could see it happening.

 

[Derinyar]

The point is they don't need to start all over again. Which is what they would be doing to bail on Carr this soon, and it looks like Carr is going nowhere.

Bush or OL is the direction they go. If it's OL, watch them trade down for someone greedy for Bush or Young.

I understand the point. But at this point when they are likely to have an entirely new front office and coaching team I could almost see them wanting to divest themselves of some of the bigger possible problems. This Texans team is just about tied with the 49ers as the lowest talent team in the league.

I agree they should trade down, I think thats the smart football move, but its also a move that will likely take 3-4 years to pay off. I'm not sure that they aren't looking to do something faster than that.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I would throw this out there. Historically, Reeves is not affraid to take a chance on Big Time QBs. He took Elway when he was in Denver, he took Vick when he was in Atlanta and now he is in a position (should he be named HC) to take Young if he wanted him. This guy is not affraid to take a chance and what's more, he believes in QBs that can run.

 

[BigDFan5]

Clue...

Go look at his age....

Born july 21 1979 so he was right Carr will be 27 next season

 

[Hiero]

Born july 21 1979 so he was right Carr will be 27 next season

yes, exactly, did you even read my post mickgreen? Carr will be 27 next year. Do you honestly think Carr will beat out Bledsoe this year or next? zero chance. He will be 29 at least by the time he has a chance to start. You are the one who needs to look at his age.

 

[joseephuss]

yes, exactly, did you even read my post mickgreen? Carr will be 27 next year. Do you honestly think Carr will beat out Bledsoe this year or next? zero chance. He will be 29 at least by the time he has a chance to start. You are the one who needs to look at his age.

Maybe he meant that even at 29 Carr would be younger than Bledsoe is right now. I don't agree with Mickgreen that Carr is worth a 1st round pick. He hasn't played well enough to garner such a high draft pick. If Houston was going to trade him, I doubt they would expect a 1st rounder in return.

 

[Hiero]

Maybe he meant that even at 29 Carr would be younger than Bledsoe is right now. I don't agree with Mickgreen that Carr is worth a 1st round pick. He hasn't played well enough to garner such a high draft pick. If Houston was going to trade him, I doubt they would expect a 1st rounder in return.

Trade a 1st rder for a guy who cant beat out our current starter and will be almost 30 by the time he starts? no thanks. I'd give up a 7th rder for him.