Trade or not to trade, that is the question

[J-man]

The trade back debate is in full swing and I understand why. It definitely could be very helpful.

If you feel like you can't get the couple of really good players, that fit our biggest needs, to fall to us at 12 and anyone else you take there will basically be the same caliber of player as you can get a bit later in the round. So in theory getting 2 good players that fit the needs list, is better than getting just 1 good player or 1 great player that you didn't really want/need. Makes total sense.

But, y'all need to remember that you have to have a trade partner to make that happen. And I personally just don't see a lot of teams willing to move up this year. Maybe, like if S Sanders does fall he could generate some movement. But other than an over rated QB, who is so good that teams want to give up premium draft capital for? I mean basically the majority of them are all 2nd rd graded players, right? And you think teams will give up their 1s and 2s to get one of these guys? I don't.

I'd be more inclined to trade back a few spots in Rd 2 and try to get a 4th rd pick back. Then maybe try to put together a package to get another 3rd or 4th rd pick somehow. If you want several good players to fill our holes than this is the better option IMO.

And TBH, it just seems a bit odd to me when the talent in this draft is so thin up the top with only 12-15 1st rd graded players, yet so many fans want to trade away from one of these very few, possibly great, actual highly talented 1st rd graded players. IMHO, this team needs help all over the field so almost any position you take will be a good fit for the team. Within reason of course. i.e. I'm not drafting a QB or a kicker at 12. But you can make an argument that just about any other spot on the field could use help. Even if it's redundant help like taking another top flight edge rusher, or spending the capital on another OT. It may not be what we want or need the most, but it will help the team get better.

 

[Carson]

If you can find a partner at good value, trading down is 100% the answer.

I think every team is looking to move down this year. It’s going to be tough

 

[Coogiguy03]

The trade back debate is in full swing and I understand why. It definitely could be very helpful.

If you feel like you can't get the couple of really good players, that fit our biggest needs, to fall to us at 12 and anyone else you take there will basically be the same caliber of player as you can get a bit later in the round. So in theory getting 2 good players that fit the needs list, is better than getting just 1 good player or 1 great player that you didn't really want/need. Makes total sense.

But, y'all need to remember that you have to have a trade partner to make that happen. And I personally just don't see a lot of teams willing to move up this year. Maybe, like if S Sanders does fall he could generate some movement. But other than an over rated QB, who is so good that teams want to give up premium draft capital for? I mean basically the majority of them are all 2nd rd graded players, right? And you think teams will give up their 1s and 2s to get one of these guys? I don't.

I'd be more inclined to trade back a few spots in Rd 2 and try to get a 4th rd pick back. Then maybe try to put together a package to get another 3rd or 4th rd pick somehow. If you want several good players to fill our holes than this is the better option IMO.

And TBH, it just seems a bit odd to me when the talent in this draft is so thin up the top with only 12-15 1st rd graded players, yet so many fans want to trade away from one of these very few, possibly great, actual highly talented 1st rd graded players. IMHO, this team needs help all over the field so almost any position you take will be a good fit for the team. Within reason of course. i.e. I'm not drafting a QB or a kicker at 12. But you can make an argument that just about any other spot on the field could use help. Even if it's redundant help like taking another top flight edge rusher, or spending the capital on another OT. It may not be what we want or need the most, but it will help the team get better.

I love the plan B option of moving down in round 2 to get that 4th, nobody's really said that on here!! I've been on record that i'm dying to see us get a 4th round pick back by whatever means!!!

 

[Coogiguy03]

If you can find a partner at good value, trading down is 100% the answer.

I think every team is looking to move down this year. It’s going to be tough

Team TRADE BACK!!! When it happens, you need to get at me ASAP Carson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[thunderpimp91]

Trade down sounds great, but I would fully expect a less than usual return this year. There are probably 20 players I think we could justify spending a 1st round pick on this year, but I'm sure most of the league is viewing this the same way. It's going to be a very quirky trade year where you can almost throw the value charts out the window.

 

[visionary]

All this ‘no one will want to trade up’ or ‘will get less value’ is hogwash

There are always teams who want a particular player

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

All this ‘no one will want to trade up’ or ‘will get less value’ is hogwash

There are always teams who want a particular player

I agree, it all depends on who’s on the board at 12, how far Dallas drops in the trade, and which picks you’re getting back

 

[cnuball21]

Trading back is best case scenario but I’m fairly confident we won’t have the option…even if Shadeur is there at 12 Jerry will probably just pick him.

 

[Chasing6]

The trade back debate is in full swing and I understand why. It definitely could be very helpful.

If you feel like you can't get the couple of really good players, that fit our biggest needs, to fall to us at 12 and anyone else you take there will basically be the same caliber of player as you can get a bit later in the round. So in theory getting 2 good players that fit the needs list, is better than getting just 1 good player or 1 great player that you didn't really want/need. Makes total sense.

But, y'all need to remember that you have to have a trade partner to make that happen. And I personally just don't see a lot of teams willing to move up this year. Maybe, like if S Sanders does fall he could generate some movement. But other than an over rated QB, who is so good that teams want to give up premium draft capital for? I mean basically the majority of them are all 2nd rd graded players, right? And you think teams will give up their 1s and 2s to get one of these guys? I don't.

I'd be more inclined to trade back a few spots in Rd 2 and try to get a 4th rd pick back. Then maybe try to put together a package to get another 3rd or 4th rd pick somehow. If you want several good players to fill our holes than this is the better option IMO.

And TBH, it just seems a bit odd to me when the talent in this draft is so thin up the top with only 12-15 1st rd graded players, yet so many fans want to trade away from one of these very few, possibly great, actual highly talented 1st rd graded players. IMHO, this team needs help all over the field so almost any position you take will be a good fit for the team. Within reason of course. i.e. I'm not drafting a QB or a kicker at 12. But you can make an argument that just about any other spot on the field could use help. Even if it's redundant help like taking another top flight edge rusher, or spending the capital on another OT. It may not be what we want or need the most, but it will help the team get better.

The question is 11 picks to early.

 

[Chasing6]

I love the plan B option of moving down in round 2 to get that 4th, nobody's really said that on here!! I've been on record that i'm dying to see us get a 4th round pick back by whatever means!!!

Only way I see that happening is, if we get a RB in round 1.

 

[gtb1943]

Honestly, I see about 10 or so really worthy of a first rd pick.
This draft has about the worst first rd talent I have seen in years.

I would trade back out of it and get as many second and third rd picks as I could. THAT is where the real meat of this draft is

 

[Sandyf]

Depending on who is available at 12 should determine a trade or not. If we have 10 to 12 guys with the same grade when 12 comes up and are offered a good deal to trade down 8 to 12 spots, then I take it.

 

[thunderpimp91]

All this ‘no one will want to trade up’ or ‘will get less value’ is hogwash

There are always teams who want a particular player

Yes, someone will always be interested in moving up, the question is how many teams will be interested in moving up vs moving down. It's all supply and demand that really creates the value.

 

[Cowboyny]

The trade back debate is in full swing and I understand why. It definitely could be very helpful.

If you feel like you can't get the couple of really good players, that fit our biggest needs, to fall to us at 12 and anyone else you take there will basically be the same caliber of player as you can get a bit later in the round. So in theory getting 2 good players that fit the needs list, is better than getting just 1 good player or 1 great player that you didn't really want/need. Makes total sense.

But, y'all need to remember that you have to have a trade partner to make that happen. And I personally just don't see a lot of teams willing to move up this year. Maybe, like if S Sanders does fall he could generate some movement. But other than an over rated QB, who is so good that teams want to give up premium draft capital for? I mean basically the majority of them are all 2nd rd graded players, right? And you think teams will give up their 1s and 2s to get one of these guys? I don't.

I'd be more inclined to trade back a few spots in Rd 2 and try to get a 4th rd pick back. Then maybe try to put together a package to get another 3rd or 4th rd pick somehow. If you want several good players to fill our holes than this is the better option IMO.

And TBH, it just seems a bit odd to me when the talent in this draft is so thin up the top with only 12-15 1st rd graded players, yet so many fans want to trade away from one of these very few, possibly great, actual highly talented 1st rd graded players. IMHO, this team needs help all over the field so almost any position you take will be a good fit for the team. Within reason of course. i.e. I'm not drafting a QB or a kicker at 12. But you can make an argument that just about any other spot on the field could use help. Even if it's redundant help like taking another top flight edge rusher, or spending the capital on another OT. It may not be what we want or need the most, but it will help the team get better.

QB’s yes, but with such a shallow tackle class, I think that could draw some interest, especially if it’s the last one left

 

[Cowboyny]

The trade back debate is in full swing and I understand why. It definitely could be very helpful.

If you feel like you can't get the couple of really good players, that fit our biggest needs, to fall to us at 12 and anyone else you take there will basically be the same caliber of player as you can get a bit later in the round. So in theory getting 2 good players that fit the needs list, is better than getting just 1 good player or 1 great player that you didn't really want/need. Makes total sense.

But, y'all need to remember that you have to have a trade partner to make that happen. And I personally just don't see a lot of teams willing to move up this year. Maybe, like if S Sanders does fall he could generate some movement. But other than an over rated QB, who is so good that teams want to give up premium draft capital for? I mean basically the majority of them are all 2nd rd graded players, right? And you think teams will give up their 1s and 2s to get one of these guys? I don't.

I'd be more inclined to trade back a few spots in Rd 2 and try to get a 4th rd pick back. Then maybe try to put together a package to get another 3rd or 4th rd pick somehow. If you want several good players to fill our holes than this is the better option IMO.

And TBH, it just seems a bit odd to me when the talent in this draft is so thin up the top with only 12-15 1st rd graded players, yet so many fans want to trade away from one of these very few, possibly great, actual highly talented 1st rd graded players. IMHO, this team needs help all over the field so almost any position you take will be a good fit for the team. Within reason of course. i.e. I'm not drafting a QB or a kicker at 12. But you can make an argument that just about any other spot on the field could use help. Even if it's redundant help like taking another top flight edge rusher, or spending the capital on another OT. It may not be what we want or need the most, but it will help the team get better.

Would you be willing to take less to bail out and get an extra pick? A usual 3rd, but now a 4th or even a 2nd that becomes a 3rd?

 

[Rayman70]

Unless Jeanty or Graham drop to us, trading down is the way to go

 

[big dog cowboy]

Trade down sounds great, but I would fully expect a less than usual return this year.

I'd still do it. Gaining the extra pick is so worth it.

 

[J-man]

Would you be willing to take less to bail out and get an extra pick? A usual 3rd, but now a 4th or even a 2nd that becomes a 3rd?

That would really depend on who is still on the board at 12 and how far I'm dropping back. I wouldn't want to drop down into the mid-late 20's for only a late 3rd or 4th while passing on one of the few blue chip players.
But if there were a couple/few of them left and I was only dropping a couple/few spots, I could do that for a smaller return.

 

[Cowboyny]

That would really depend on who is still on the board at 12 and how far I'm dropping back. I wouldn't want to drop down into the mid-late 20's for only a late 3rd or 4th while passing on one of the few blue chip players.
But if there were a couple/few of them left and I was only dropping a couple/few spots, I could do that for a smaller return.

Certainly would depend on who is on your board, however, I might consider a late teens drop back to get that 4th back. That could easily fill the RB need.

 

[J-man]

I wonder sometimes if some of you actually read the post before you comment?

The whole point of this post is get some of you fans who want to "trade back no matter what", or "trading down is the best choice" to realize that it just may not be possible to do it. It could come to pass that there may not be anyone willing to trade up, at least not for any compensation worth passing on a top prospect. Sure you will always get trade offers, but will they be worth squat?

I'm not here to say that I wouldn't trade back, because I would love to drop back a few spots and land another early rd pick. But what I'm trying to relay to y'all is that I'm not very confident that option will be available to them this year.