Trade out of the 1st round

[Idgit]

There has been a "rumor" lately that Parcells wanted Merriman and Jones overruled him and they selected Ware. This came from one of the sports writers, I believe. How he knows is anyone's guess.

But to suggest they would have passed on jackson to take the other Jones is a well oiled rumor of its own. I don't know anything about this rumor that makes it true.

All I know is that if they passed on Jackson for any reason, they may have made a huge mistake.

It was one of those rumors that Jerry Jones started by stating it plainly in a post-draft press conference, if I remember correctly.

 

[dbair1967]

normally I think trading down to accumulate picks is a nice idea...but this isnt a normal yr

we're a playoff team with very few, if any real needs...its highly possible that if we stay we're at and use all our picks as is (or lower) not many, if any will contribute this yr...we're blessed to have a nice corp group of players...its also very likely that if we used all 10 picks as is, there will be several who dont even make the team

what we could use is an impact player...a guy who makes a big difference and is almost certain to start or play alot and make an impact...we havent been in this position in years and thats why I wont be surprised if we trade UP

David

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

normally I think trading down to accumulate picks is a nice idea...but this isnt a normal yr

we're a playoff team with very few, if any real needs...its highly possible that if we stay we're at and use all our picks as is (or lower) not many, if any will contribute this yr...we're blessed to have a nice corp group of players...its also very likely that if we used all 10 picks as is, there will be several who dont even make the team

what we could use is an impact player...a guy who makes a big difference and is almost certain to start or play alot and make an impact...we havent been in this position in years and thats why I wont be surprised if we trade UP

David

I would like 5 guys that all have the ability to develop. I don't think we could draft a guy who could be an impact player where we are at. I wouldn't mind getting rid of all the 5th and lower picks and even trading our 1st round pick to aquire a good 5 picks in the top 100.

 

[alancdc]

Lookit, I really doubt that would ever happen.

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Is there any doubt that the "trade down king" will be looking for some team to trade with?

 

[dbair1967]

I would like 5 guys that all have the ability to develop. I don't think we could draft a guy who could be an impact player where we are at. I wouldn't mind getting rid of all the 5th and lower picks and even trading our 1st round pick to aquire a good 5 picks in the top 100.

I agree, where we're at we prob cant get an impact player unless we get lucky

thats why I think they will consider trading up, especially if a guy they really like falls out of the top-5 picks...getting into the top-5 prob isnt something they'd try, but trading up to around 7 or 9 perhaps could be

its just a hunch...I just see them as sitting there and thinking they hve a pretty solid roster, no real needs and possibly a key player away from being a legit championship team

I am never in favor of drafting for backups, which is what might happen if we trade down and end up with a bunch of guys who we hope pan out 2-3yrs from now...thats kinda what happened in 1995..w.e had a pretty solid roster, especially the top 22-25 players...Jones moved down multiple times and even proclaimed "we're drafting for backup roles"...now granted the scouting wasnt great then, but we were in a position to maybe move up and get another key guy that could have really helped (hindsight being 20/20, a WR that could start should have been the prime target)

like I said its just a hunch and probably wont happen, but I wont be surprised at all if we move up 10-12 spots or so on draft day

David

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree, where we're at we prob cant get an impact player unless we get lucky

thats why I think they will consider trading up, especially if a guy they really like falls out of the top-5 picks...getting into the top-5 prob isnt something they'd try, but trading up to around 7 or 9 perhaps could be

its just a hunch...I just see them as sitting there and thinking they hve a pretty solid roster, no real needs and possibly a key player away from being a legit championship team

I am never in favor of drafting for backups, which is what might happen if we trade down and end up with a bunch of guys who we hope pan out 2-3yrs from now...thats kinda what happened in 1995..w.e had a pretty solid roster, especially the top 22-25 players...Jones moved down multiple times and even proclaimed "we're drafting for backup roles"...now granted the scouting wasnt great then, but we were in a position to maybe move up and get another key guy that could have really helped (hindsight being 20/20, a WR that could start should have been the prime target)

like I said its just a hunch and probably wont happen, but I wont be surprised at all if we move up 10-12 spots or so on draft day

David

I would not be opposed to moving up if there is a guy there we thought could be an impact player. I just don't have much faith that one of those guys will slip.

I am not opposed to drafting for developmental players. Not really back ups but guys that can step in and be quality starters in a couple years. I'd like to be in a position where we can replace TO or Glenn in a few seasons without having to be forced to give them Millions at the end of there careers or have to go sign another big ticket WR. Same with Adams or the like. Basically, just add quality talent that will start for us in a couple seasons. Makes the cap much easier to manage. Basically, what NE does I suppose.

 

[burmafrd]

There really are very few impact players this year. Calvin Johnson, maybe Peterson, maybe one of the two OTs, and maybe the top Safety. None of the CBs scream shutdown; we do not have a place for a TE or a QB this year. At 22, we would have to move up to around 15 or even lower to get one of the top DE/OLB guys. There is no ILB worth moving up for. There really is nothing that is worth moving up for enough to pay the price we would have to pay.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

There really are very few impact players this year. Calvin Johnson, maybe Peterson, maybe one of the two OTs, and maybe the top Safety. None of the CBs scream shutdown; we do not have a place for a TE or a QB this year. At 22, we would have to move up to around 15 or even lower to get one of the top DE/OLB guys. There is no ILB worth moving up for. There really is nothing that is worth moving up for enough to pay the price we would have to pay.

I think Willis would be worth moving up for if he starts to slip.

 

[Concord]

I'm never a fan of trading out of the First.

Pick the best guy there and go with it.

Like Ginn.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I agree, where we're at we prob cant get an impact player unless we get lucky

thats why I think they will consider trading up, especially if a guy they really like falls out of the top-5 picks...getting into the top-5 prob isnt something they'd try, but trading up to around 7 or 9 perhaps could be

its just a hunch...I just see them as sitting there and thinking they hve a pretty solid roster, no real needs and possibly a key player away from being a legit championship team

I am never in favor of drafting for backups, which is what might happen if we trade down and end up with a bunch of guys who we hope pan out 2-3yrs from now...thats kinda what happened in 1995..w.e had a pretty solid roster, especially the top 22-25 players...Jones moved down multiple times and even proclaimed "we're drafting for backup roles"...now granted the scouting wasnt great then, but we were in a position to maybe move up and get another key guy that could have really helped (hindsight being 20/20, a WR that could start should have been the prime target)

like I said its just a hunch and probably wont happen, but I wont be surprised at all if we move up 10-12 spots or so on draft day

David

Theres a difference between drafting for backups and drafting guys who will have to backup because your roster is so good. I cannot think of anyone outside of Nelson, Brown, and Lynch that you could draft expect to start at 22. Quality guys like Moss, Revis, Meachem, Ginn and Branch all would start for most NFL teams however our roster is stout enough that they wouldnt.

Were not supposting going for guys like Sherman Williams, shane Hannah and Eric Bjornson.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think Willis would be worth moving up for if he starts to slip.

Or Lynch, Hall, Landry or Brown

 

[jackrussell]

I'm never a fan of trading out of the First.

Pick the best guy there and go with it.

Like Ginn.

Settle down boy, settle down.:

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Or Lynch, Hall, Landry or Brown

Of the guys that are 1st rd type options, I would think that only the following would have a chance to start.

Thomas (LT or RT possibly)
Peterson (Immediate starter at RB)
Landry (FS possibly)
Brown (LT or RT possibly)
Anderson (DE possibly)
Willis (ILB or OLB possibly)
Branch (DE possibly)
Lynch (RB possibly)


Now, the first 5 IMO, we will never see. I doubt that Willis, Branch or Lynch will slip to 22 either but there is a chance that one of the three might slip low enough to make it feasable to trade up if we liked them enough. Only Lynch is a guy that I could see natuarlly slipping to 22 but I doubt that happens. Also, even if he did, I don't know that we would consider taking him.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Of the guys that are 1st rd type options, I would think that only the following would have a chance to start.

Thomas (LT or RT possibly)
Peterson (Immediate starter at RB)
Landry (FS possibly)
Brown (LT or RT possibly)
Anderson (DE possibly)
Willis (ILB or OLB possibly)
Branch (DE possibly)
Lynch (RB possibly)


Now, the first 5 IMO, we will never see. I doubt that Willis, Branch or Lynch will slip to 22 either but there is a chance that one of the three might slip low enough to make it feasable to trade up if we liked them enough. Only Lynch is a guy that I could see natuarlly slipping to 22 but I doubt that happens. Also, even if he did, I don't know that we would consider taking him.

I agree with that assessment 110%

 

[Concord]

Settle down boy, settle down.:

....

 

[ethiostar]

Theres a difference between drafting for backups and drafting guys who will have to backup because your roster is so good. I cannot think of anyone outside of Nelson, Brown, and Lynch that you could draft expect to start at 22. Quality guys like Moss, Revis, Meachem, Ginn and Branch all would start for most NFL teams however our roster is stout enough that they wouldnt.

Thank you. That's been my point all along.

 

[dogberry]

ABQ, I really appreciate your systematic, thoughtful approach. Thank you.

 

[burmafrd]

I really do not see any of the guys beyond the top 5-10 who would be worth moving up to get; considering how much we would have to give up to move up beyond 18 or so. None of the sure things will drop beyond 10-12; and no one else is worth the picks we would have to give up.

 

[Clove]

let's just go with the best player, and call it a day.

 

[LD Fan]

we have 10 picks and 10 people are'nt making this roster so it defeats the point of trading down

That's not the point. The more you pick, the better chance you have on hitting on a few. Go back and review everyone's saint Jimmy Johnson. He had a terrible success % but got a lot of good players because he drafted so many. He missed on a lot more than he hit on.