Video: Training Camp: Dak working on accuracy

[DallasEast]

Thats exactly how eli succeeded. Well along with a good team too.

Eli heaved it up in a way that allowed his great receivers to go get it. I sont remember a lot of tight windows...just opportunities.

Bold> Plaxico Burress was arguably a great receiver. I would not dismiss him as a good example of Eli Manning's 'great receivers'.

On the other hand, David Tyree was simply a good receiver. Tyree made one of the best catches any receiver has ever made at the professional, college or even high school level--and in the Super Bowl.

Tyree is one reason why I will always say luck can play a part in achieving success, even if it is a tiny part. That guy trapped the ball, on top of his helmet, primarily with ONE hand, while jumping and during a fairly tough tackle. The greatest wide receivers may not have made that catch. Tyree himself may have not made that same catch if he had attempted it multiple times.

"Big time players make big time plays." In that moment, Tyree was a big time player but greatest? I would disagree. However, I think my little rant is being motivated somewhat by pointing out it takes two to complete any catchable pass.

It is why I believe most quarterbacks are often OVERLY criticized (not saying you though) for incomplete catchable passes. Manning received more glory in that moment, after escaping a sack and heaving the ball, than Tyree. It is still true to this day. What would have been the reaction to Manning if Tyree had dropped that heave--despite the difficulty in hauling it in?

Click here for Tyree's catch.

lol. We will never know.

 

[Redsfan_83]

Wasn't ti this time last year our QB was working on 2nd, 3rd and 4th reads during TC? I don't mean to pile on the guy but because of this I would only offer him $54,000,000 AAV until he figures this out then give him the extra bills he wants....sigh

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Bold> Plaxico Burress was arguably a great receiver. I would not dismiss him as a good example of Eli Manning's 'great receivers'.

On the other hand, David Tyree was simply a good receiver. Tyree made one of the best catches any receiver has ever made at the professional, college or even high school level--and in the Super Bowl.

Tyree is one reason why I will always say luck can play a part in achieving success, even if it is a tiny part. That guy trapped the ball, on top of his helmet, primarily with ONE hand, while jumping and during a fairly tough tackle. The greatest wide receivers may not have made that catch. Tyree himself may have not made that same catch if he had attempted it multiple times.

"Big time players make big time plays." In that moment, Tyree was a big time player but greatest? I would disagree. However, I think my little rant is being motivated somewhat by pointing out it takes two to complete any catchable pass.

It is why I believe most quarterbacks are often OVERLY criticized (not saying you though) for incomplete catchable passes. Manning received more glory in that moment, after escaping a sack and heaving the ball, than Tyree. It is still true to this day. What would have been the reaction to Manning if Tyree had dropped that heave--despite the difficulty in hauling it in?

Click here for Tyree's catch.

lol. We will never know.

Beckham? Hicks? Even Manningham was pulling in 1k or near. Really solid WRs. They flat out went and got the ball.

And yes...LUCK! Even Beckhams catch was a bit of luck.

 

[noshame]

Never doubted his accuracy, he hits defenders. In stride.

 

[shabazz]

Pay that man his $60m!

The 60 isn't for him, " it's about the brotherhood"

 

[blueblood70]

Bold> Plaxico Burress was arguably a great receiver. I would not dismiss him as a good example of Eli Manning's 'great receivers'.

On the other hand, David Tyree was simply a good receiver. Tyree made one of the best catches any receiver has ever made at the professional, college or even high school level--and in the Super Bowl.

Tyree is one reason why I will always say luck can play a part in achieving success, even if it is a tiny part. That guy trapped the ball, on top of his helmet, primarily with ONE hand, while jumping and during a fairly tough tackle. The greatest wide receivers may not have made that catch. Tyree himself may have not made that same catch if he had attempted it multiple times.

"Big time players make big time plays." In that moment, Tyree was a big time player but greatest? I would disagree. However, I think my little rant is being motivated somewhat by pointing out it takes two to complete any catchable pass.

It is why I believe most quarterbacks are often OVERLY criticized (not saying you though) for incomplete catchable passes. Manning received more glory in that moment, after escaping a sack and heaving the ball, than Tyree. It is still true to this day. What would have been the reaction to Manning if Tyree had dropped that heave--despite the difficulty in hauling it in?

Click here for Tyree's catch.

lol. We will never know.

Probably not following this conversation close enough but I can tell you this if you're saying that we need players to step up in big games and stop counting on just the core stars to do it all by themselves yes I agree,,,

instead we have players we're supposed to count on not play well in big games especially in the trenches I mean the fact that we don't have a strong run game a strong run defense a coaching staff that just doesn't seem prepared to adapt and overcome once they realize their game plan isn't working I mean there's a lot of problems in these games and it's not the quarterback... Let me goes all the way back to Romo and Patrick Creighton if the guy doesn't pull up on one route it's probably a touchdown he doesn't drop a third down pass we continually to have a drive like these things keep happening it's all over the team we're having team failures and lack of team success it keeps being put on the head coach and the quarterback and it gets tiresome...

Can you imagine if that in that San Francisco game in the playoffs a couple years ago that Trayvon dig makes that interception he should make ohh he breaks up that play that he should break up somehow he looks like worried about getting a penalty so he went soft at kittles?? Imagine if in the same game wasn't it the game where the offensive line had like 11 penalties or was it the one they only allowed about 3 yards per carry for our running backs I mean I forget because all these playoff games have one thing in common many players are making mistakes it's not just the quarterback you can't play Superman from one position when the rest of the team is your kryptonite...

 

[shabazz]

Never doubted his accuracy, he hits defenders. In stride.

The first pick against the Packers had a nice spiral to it

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

How does the elite stay the elite?















































































Practice.

 

[DallasEast]

Beckham? Hicks? Even Manningham was pulling in 1k or near. Really solid WRs. They flat out went and got the ball.

And yes...LUCK! Even Beckhams catch was a bit of luck.

oh. My mistake. I assumed incorrectly you were referring only to great receivers who bailed Eli Manning out during the playoffs or Super Bowl.

I had also thought about Mario Manningham's catch (link) in the Giants/Manning second Super Bowl. Another good receiver making a clutch catch for Manning when it mattered most.

On the other hand, Beckham was arguably a great wide receiver. However, his one-handed highlight reel catch did not factor in at all for what I was thinking you were commenting on. Still doesn't. My bad. Apologies.

 

[DallasEast]

Probably not following this conversation close enough...

That is correct. And please note my reply (which you are replying to) was wrong according to @SteveTheCowboy was actually meant.

I have no excuse. In my case, I actually read his comment closely and completely and still got it wrong.

 

[blueblood70]

The first pick against the Packers had a nice spiral to it

yeah your sarcasm or not go breakdown the plate and you'll see the receiver was interfered with twice the second time his shoulder was pulled over for the rest quarterback to actually get the football that was an interception thrown right to the DB he threw the ball thinking cooks can make a play on it because nobody was open all day if you didn't notice there was a lot of zone being played with very little pressure meaning there was a lot of guys being covered and they were getting both to the running back and to the quarterback without using a whole lot of players.. You wanna talk about the second interception where lamb was supposed to continue going across the field ball was released he stops and goes up field he basically went off script and the ball got picked up but sure blame the quarterback we do it easily without actually looking at the story behind the interceptions go look that ball was thrown so cooks can make a play on it and cooks was interfered with not once but twice no call of course which is not a big deal but blaming the interception solely on the quarterback for trying to give his receiver an opportunity to make a play it's ridiculous....

 

[blueblood70]

That is correct. And please note my reply (which you are replying to) was wrong according to @SteveTheCowboy was actually meant.

I have no excuse. In my case, I actually read his comment closely and completely and still got it wrong.

Well I have a lot of these guys on ignore so there's no way for me to completely follow it.. I think the general fact here is our players need to make more plays all over the field I don't care what level they are Lee or four string when they're called upon you gotta make the play and that's why I bring up Trayvon diggs missing interceptions and not putting a shoulder into a guy this is the playoffs go ahead and get a penalty and get thrown out of the game for targeting because we needed a spark just have to play better in the big moments and it seems like everyone's so tight and worried about like playing hero ball that they forget the basics of football and in the playoffs you have to elevate your game and that means sometimes you might have to go out and when you get shoved in the back like CD Lam and you don't go push back I mean this is an opportunity where I don't care if you go get a penalty you got to show some fire and do your damn job...

 

[JoeKing]

The media are the ones that need to work on their accuracy. Too much fake news gets passed around as the truth. Journalism is dead.

 

[DallasEast]

Well I have a lot of these guys on ignore so there's no way for me to completely follow it.. I think the general fact here is our players need to make more plays all over the field I don't care what level they are Lee or four string when they're called upon you gotta make the play and that's why I bring up Trayvon diggs missing interceptions and not putting a shoulder into a guy this is the playoffs go ahead and get a penalty and get thrown out of the game for targeting because we needed a spark just have to play better in the big moments and it seems like everyone's so tight and worried about like playing hero ball that they forget the basics of football and in the playoffs you have to elevate your game and that means sometimes you might have to go out and when you get shoved in the back like CD Lam and you don't go push back I mean this is an opportunity where I don't care if you go get a penalty you got to show some fire and do your damn job...

That is nice to know. My incorrect reply to @SteveTheCowboy did not state or imply with anything you are commenting about.

 

[OGSixshooter]

Dak is deadly accurate esp when the lights shine brightest!!!

We are truly blessed!

Blessed!!!

LOL..I think GB was worse. A homer will argue that Gallup and CeeDee didn't help their QB - aka become defensive backs for perfectly thrown INTs. The GB INTs were just god awful throws AT HOME.

Either way, all 4 were COMPLETE CHOKE JOBS. NO PRESSURE. NO TIPPED PASS. PURE DEER-IN-HEADLIGHTS CHOKE JOB.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

If you want to see even more inaccuracy, watch this...





I digress, though, pinpoint accuracy like that challenge isn't necessary - just throw to an area, hopefully not too far off target, and let the receiver or tight end make a a play. I like to pick on Dak mostly because it irritates his fan club and sends them into fits of rage. Kind of like DE in the post right before this one picking on Rockport and his overuse of 'hater'.

Dak is deadly accurate esp when the lights shine brightest!!!

We are truly blessed!

This is a thread about a video of Dak successfully doing accuracy drills from yesterday. So posting 8 year old videos or his past mistakes doesn't really work here, and says more about you than him.

I don't expect you to comprehend what Im saying, because you never do.

 

[zekecowboy]

He led the league in accuracy*


*Except when it matters

That is Dak's entire career in a nutshell.

2 interceptions in the Green Bay wild card game. Cost Dallas the game.
He needs to work on his accuracy.

 

[BoysForLife]

If you want to see even more inaccuracy, watch this...

Classic

Carr, years out of the league, absolutely humiliates the guy who demands to be the highest paid QB ever, throwing at still targets with zero pass rush coming at him

That clip never gets old.