Travis Hunter, T McMillan, Walker or Jeanty?

[JohnsKey19]

If he doesn’t have the athleticism to separate then I’d be out on him picking around 5.

There are a ton of tall WRs that have had super quick feet and the athleticism to be great separators in the league.

When you're that big, athletic and smooth, you dont have to be Marvin Harrison at the top of the route. Think of a Mike Evans or Brandon Marshall. The rare guys who are 6'4-6'5 and can easily separate are freaks like Megatron and Randy Moss. With that said, taking a WR in the top 5 doesnt make the most sense for this team. I'd lean Travis Hunter or whatever big nasty(OL or DL) rated that highly still on the board.

 

[cnuball21]

When you're that big, athletic and smooth, you dont have to be Marvin Harrison at the top of the route. Think of a Mike Evans or Brandon Marshall. The rare guys who are 6'4-6'5 and can easily separate are freaks like Megatron and Randy Moss. With that said, taking a WR in the top 5 doesnt make the most sense for this team. I'd lean Travis Hunter or whatever big nasty(OL or DL) rated that highly still on the board.

Evans and and MHJ are 100% great separators…that’s my whole point.

It’s not just the 40 time…it’s the 10 yard split, shuttles, foot quickness and lateral agility.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Evans and and MHJ are 100% great separators…that’s my whole point.

It’s not just the 40 time…it’s the 10 yard split, shuttles, foot quickness and lateral agility.

I got all that. But check the NFL.com pre-draft write up below on Evans. I never brought up MHJ. I was referencing Marvin Harrison(father), who is one of the greatest separators of all time.

If you've watched McMillan, while he's not Megatron/Moss level athletic, you would say is lacking in any of the speed/quickness components for a 6'5 guy. I think his "weakness" is just learning to further develop his route-running. He has the hips, explosion and flexibility to do it all. I think his athletic testing at the combine and workouts will only cement his status as the clear #1 WR and potential top 5 pick.

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Mike Evans:​

Weaknesses​

Monotone mover with pedestrian speed -- cannot separate vertically or pull away from the pack. Unsudden acceleration. Stiff hips. Will have to make a living in traffic at the next level -- will struggle to separate vs. quick-twitch NFL cornerbacks. Did not run a full route tree and could require patience learning the nuances of refined route running. Backyard element to his college success -- must become savvier instead of depending on superior size and improvisational production. Can be hotheaded and lose control of his emotions. Basketball was first love

 

[cnuball21]

I got all that. But check the NFL.com pre-draft write up below on Evans. I never brought up MHJ. I was referencing Marvin Harrison(father), who is one of the greatest separators of all time.

If you've watched McMillan, while he's not Megatron/Moss level athletic, you would say is lacking in any of the speed/quickness components for a 6'5 guy. I think his "weakness" is just learning to further develop his route-running. He has the hips, explosion and flexibility to do it all. I think his athletic testing at the combine and workouts will only cement his status as the clear #1 WR and potential top 5 pick.

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Mike Evans:​

Weaknesses​

Monotone mover with pedestrian speed -- cannot separate vertically or pull away from the pack. Unsudden acceleration. Stiff hips. Will have to make a living in traffic at the next level -- will struggle to separate vs. quick-twitch NFL cornerbacks. Did not run a full route tree and could require patience learning the nuances of refined route running. Backyard element to his college success -- must become savvier instead of depending on superior size and improvisational production. Can be hotheaded and lose control of his emotions. Basketball was first love

You said Harrison so thought you were talking about the one in the league now.

And I don’t think the scouting report really matters considering how he’s developed and the WR he’s turned into. We’re talking about a 1st ballot HOFr and you think he gets there without being a + route runner and consistent separator?

 

[JohnsKey19]

You said Harrison so thought you were talking about the one in the league now.

And I don’t think the scouting report really matters considering how he’s developed and the WR he’s turned into. We’re talking about a 1st ballot HOFr and you think he gets there without being a + route runner and consistent separator?

My point on Evans is that's what the evaluators said pre-draft. As you said, he's developed, answered those questions about his route running and will end up in the HOF.

We're going back and forth on other stuff. The main point is I believe McMillan's athletic testing will be impressive and he'll be cemented as a top 10 pick. How high he goes depends on teams drafting. You seem to question that, which is fine. We'll see...from there it's up to how he continues to develop. But I believe his ceiling is extremely high.

 

[cnuball21]

My point on Evans is that's what the evaluators said pre-draft. As you said, he's developed, answered those questions about his route running and will end up in the HOF.

We're going back and forth on other stuff. The main point is I believe McMillan's athletic testing will be impressive and he'll be cemented as a top 10 pick. How high he goes depends on teams drafting. You seem to question that, which is fine. We'll see...from there it's up to how he continues to develop. But I believe his ceiling is extremely high.

Yea, I mean if he tests well and the athleticism is there for him to develop into a better separator then sign me up.

 

[beware_d-ware]

McMillan looks like another Drake London or Michael Pittman to me. Big receiver with a small possession receiver's game. I just don't see the high-octane speed or burst to rip off huge chunk plays.

A shifty 6'5" receiver is still a coverage problem for almost any CB, and London and Pittman have proven that you can be successful with that skillset. Pittman is playing on a fat second contract, and London is about to get one after this season, so in a vacuum, I think McMillan will be a good pro.

But Tet is the kind of guy where, if defenses double CeeDee and leave him one-on-one, he'll body out the corner for a slant or hitch and make an 8 yard catch. If you ran that play with Travis Hunter, he may catch that slant, make a move, and rip off 20 more yards after the catch. Or he runs a fly route against that one-on-coverage and Mosses the corner for a huge gain.

I don't hate McMillan as a player, and I think he's an 80 catch a year guy in the pros. But he's not the kind of alpha-dog X receiver that usually goes top 10 in the draft, and he's being pushed up by a weak class. London went top 10 back in 2022, and if you hindsight-drafted that class today, he wouldn't go top 10 again. He'd go first round (and so would 2021 second-rounder Pittman), but you wouldn't take him over an explosive WR like Garrett Wilson or Chris Olave.