Trent Green Says At Least Ten Will Throw For More Than 4,000 Yards... Romo potential

[WoodysGirl]

Posted by Mike Florio on June 29, 2009, 7:51 a.m.

Once a rarity, the 4,000-yard passing season is now fairly common. Every year, a handful of players (sometimes a few more) cross the threshold that, prior to 1979, had been eclipsed only once, by Joe Namath of the AFL in 1967.

The single-season record is seven, set in 2007. Last year, six quarterbacks threw for more than 4,000 yards.

Retired quarterback Trent Green, serving as the first-ever guest writer of Peter King’s Monday Morning Quarterback, thinks that at least 10 quarterbacks will generate 4,000 or more passing yards in 2009.

Green flags six of them as guaranteed, and seven as having a shot.

The guaranteed: Drew Brees of the Saints, Peyton Manning of the Colts, Tom Brady of the Patriots, Kurt Warner of the Cardinals, Philip Rivers of the Chargers, and Aaron Rodgers of the Packers.

The possible: Jay Cutler of the Bears, Matt Cassel of the Chiefs, Carson Palmer of the Bengals, Matt Schaub of the Texans, Donovan McNabb of the Eagles, Tony Romo of the Cowboys, and Matt Hasselbeck of the Seahawks.

The first 4,000-yard season after Namath’s in 1967 came in 1979, with the full-blown arrival of Air Coryell. Since 1979, there has been no 4,000-yard passer in only one non-strike season.

Wisely omitted from Green’s list is Brett Favre. Even though Favre undoubtedly will be playing for the Vikings, the passing game there will only complement a strong running game.

But Favre wasn’t omitted from Green’s writing. The soon-to-be 39-year-old doesn’t fault the soon-to-be 40-year-old Favre for wanting to play. Like the rest of us, however, Green is sick of the back-and-forth, will-he-or-won’t-he that has dominated most of the second half of Favre’s career.

“I think I’m going crazy because I feel like we’ve been talking about Brett Favre and his retirement since the new millennium,” Green writes. “You want to play, Brett? I hope you do. I’ve always enjoyed watching you play. But please decide by the start of training camp.”

Actually, the retirement talk started in 2002, when Favre mused about it to the guy who’s vacation has opened the door for Green to weigh in on the matter — Peter King.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Guest MMQB (cont.)

10 Things I Think I Think

1) I think with teams going pass happy, there will be at least 10 quarterbacks to throw for over 4,000 yards this season. Seem like a lot? I see six locks and seven more with potential. Let's break it down:

Guaranteed to do it -- Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Philip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers.

Potential to do it -- Jay Cutler, Matt Cassel, Carson Palmer, Matt Schaub, Donovan McNabb, Tony Romo and Matt Hasselbeck.

2) I think I'm going crazy because I feel like we've been talking about Brett Favre and his retirement since the new millennium. You want to play, Brett? I hope you do. I've always enjoyed watching you play. But please decide by the start of training camp.

3) I think I like that Reggie Bush is keeping a low profile this off-season. Don't be surprised if he has a monster year in the Big Easy.

4) I think there will be no sophomore slump for either Joe Flacco or Matt Ryan. They are both surrounded by good players and good coaching. They also seem to have the right moxy to handle all of the pressure.

5) I think Peyton Manning will be required to do even more this year, if that's possible. With all of the changes going on in Indy, he'll need to help with the transition in the locker room and on the field. But I think he is up to it. He is a year removed from his knee issues and will have some time to spare, instead of just rehabbing all day.

6) I think, actually I know, that Mark Brunell is the last quarterback standing from the 1993 draft class. He's outlasted Drew Bledsoe (No. 1 overall), Rick Mirer (No. 2), Billy Joe Hobert (No. 58), Gino Toretta (No. 192), Alex Van Pelt (No. 216), Elvis Grbac (No. 219) and me (No. 222). Keep going, Mark! I'll be pulling for you.

7) I think the NFL, teams and players need to be very careful how they handle the upcoming negotiations for an extension to the CBA. With the economy the way it is, everyone in league circles needs to be aware of how they portray their side of things through the media. People are not going to want to hear flippant remarks concerning multi-million dollar deals.

8) I think that brings me to ticket prices. Where are the family seats at most stadiums now? Teams need to realize they are pricing out a huge part of their fan base. DirecTV is great and watching games in high definition is amazing. But absolutely nothing can beat watching a game live. The atmosphere, the grill smells, the people all dressed in team apparel, the elements, the live sound of a good tackle, 80,000 people all cheering at the same time -- you can't replicate the experience. I'd like to see all owners set aside a few sections for reasonably-priced seating so parents can afford to take their kids.

9) I think these are my non-football thoughts of the week:

a) When you are moving into a new house and it is in the mid-90's outside, always remember to have the TV people there the first day. Three kids plus a house full of boxes plus too hot to go outside does not equal quality family time.

b) I was recently in Cooperstown, N.Y., with my son's baseball team for a tournament. My wife and I decided to take the family to Niagara Falls after the tournament because we had never been and didn't know when we would get back to that part of the country. The Falls is truly amazing. If you're going, take the time to get a passport. The views from the Canadian side will literally make you just stand there and stare.

c) If you're going to St. Louis for the MLB All-Star Game you have to take the time to go to Ted Drewe's Frozen Custard. You won't be disappointed.

d) Up to this point in my life (I'll be 39 in a couple of weeks), nothing gives me more pride than watching my kids, whether it be seeing them hold a door open for someone, or share something with a sibling without being asked or overcoming something on the athletic fields. Parenting is both difficult and very rewarding.

e) For me, now is when reality kicks in. For those of you that think retired athletes sleep in, work out, play a little golf, maybe get a massage, I've got news for you: The Greens would make for a great reality show to destroy all those Hollywood stereotypes about retirement. Because youth baseball practices and games consume a lot of our evenings, we rarely have time for the five of us to sit down for dinner. We found a rare opportunity last week and about five minutes into the meal, Janelle, 3, says she's not hungry anymore and refuses to sit in her seat. Just then, Derek, 9, reaches for a bowl of fruit and one of his elbows knocks over his glass of milk. TJ, 11, goes into big brother mode and begins the verbal jabs. As my wife Julie hurried for some towels, the boys continue jawing and Janelle starts running around the table singing some song, REALLY LOUD. As Julie returns with the towels, she sees me sitting there, mouth open, watching all of this unfold. She gets my attention and I just begin to laugh. I look at her and say, "If people only knew." Welcome to retirement, Trent!

10) I think I hope Peter King has a great vacation. Thank you for allowing me this opportunity.

 

[Doomsday101]

I would just as soon have over 3000 passing and 2,500 rushing

 

[CowboyMike]

The guaranteed: Drew Brees of the Saints, Peyton Manning of the Colts, Tom Brady of the Patriots, Kurt Warner of the Cardinals, Philip Rivers of the Chargers, and Aaron Rodgers of the Packers.

What's with all the sudden Rodgers love? I don't get it.

 

[THUMPER]

Posted by Mike Florio on June 29, 2009, 7:51 a.m.

Once a rarity, the 4,000-yard passing season is now fairly common. Every year, a handful of players (sometimes a few more) cross the threshold that, prior to 1979, had been eclipsed only once, by Joe Namath of the AFL in 1967.

The single-season record is seven, set in 2007. Last year, six quarterbacks threw for more than 4,000 yards.

Retired quarterback Trent Green, serving as the first-ever guest writer of Peter King’s Monday Morning Quarterback, thinks that at least 10 quarterbacks will generate 4,000 or more passing yards in 2009.

Green flags six of them as guaranteed, and seven as having a shot.

The guaranteed: Drew Brees of the Saints, Peyton Manning of the Colts, Tom Brady of the Patriots, Kurt Warner of the Cardinals, Philip Rivers of the Chargers, and Aaron Rodgers of the Packers.

The possible: Jay Cutler of the Bears, Matt Cassel of the Chiefs, Carson Palmer of the Bengals, Matt Schaub of the Texans, Donovan McNabb of the Eagles, Tony Romo of the Cowboys, and Matt Hasselbeck of the Seahawks.

The first 4,000-yard season after Namath’s in 1967 came in 1979, with the full-blown arrival of Air Coryell. Since 1979, there has been no 4,000-yard passer in only one non-strike season.

Wisely omitted from Green’s list is Brett Favre. Even though Favre undoubtedly will be playing for the Vikings, the passing game there will only complement a strong running game.

But Favre wasn’t omitted from Green’s writing. The soon-to-be 39-year-old doesn’t fault the soon-to-be 40-year-old Favre for wanting to play. Like the rest of us, however, Green is sick of the back-and-forth, will-he-or-won’t-he that has dominated most of the second half of Favre’s career.

“I think I’m going crazy because I feel like we’ve been talking about Brett Favre and his retirement since the new millennium,” Green writes. “You want to play, Brett? I hope you do. I’ve always enjoyed watching you play. But please decide by the start of training camp.”

Actually, the retirement talk started in 2002, when Favre mused about it to the guy who’s vacation has opened the door for Green to weigh in on the matter — Peter King.

Well considering 6 guys passed for over 4000 yards last season and another 4 for over 3600 that's not much of a stretch.

 

[THUMPER]

What's with all the sudden Rodgers love? I don't get it.

He passed for over 4000 yards last year. Besides the media loves the Packers.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I would just as soon have over 3000 passing and 2,500 rushing

Amen. Those stats show potential for good December football and a potential nice playoff run.

 

[QT]

I seriously doubt Hasselbeck throws for 4,000 yards, even with Housh there. I will bet my fantasy football moneyS on it. I also think Reggie Bush might have a pretty decent 2009.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I would just as soon have over 3000 passing and 2,500 rushing

Bingo. That's exactly how I'd hope it goes down.

 

[CATCH17]

4000 yards with 8 games in green bay?

Thats tough right der for Aaron.

 

[DFWJC]

What's with all the sudden Rodgers love? I don't get it.

He has only started one year and he pretty much lit it up statistically with over 4000 yards passing, 28 TDs and only 13 ints...plus 4 rushing TDs. That is pretty good.

 

[DFWJC]

I would just as soon have over 3000 passing and 2,500 rushing

Make that 3700 and 2500 and I'm in.

 

[CoCo]

Guest MMQB (cont.)


7) I think the NFL, teams and players need to be very careful how they handle the upcoming negotiations for an extension to the CBA. With the economy the way it is, everyone in league circles needs to be aware of how they portray their side of things through the media. People are not going to want to hear flippant remarks concerning multi-million dollar deals.


d) Up to this point in my life (I'll be 39 in a couple of weeks), nothing gives me more pride than watching my kids, whether it be seeing them hold a door open for someone, or share something with a sibling without being asked or overcoming something on the athletic fields. Parenting is both difficult and very rewarding.

e) For me, now is when reality kicks in. For those of you that think retired athletes sleep in, work out, play a little golf, maybe get a massage, I've got news for you: The Greens would make for a great reality show to destroy all those Hollywood stereotypes about retirement. Because youth baseball practices and games consume a lot of our evenings, we rarely have time for the five of us to sit down for dinner. We found a rare opportunity last week and about five minutes into the meal, Janelle, 3, says she's not hungry anymore and refuses to sit in her seat. Just then, Derek, 9, reaches for a bowl of fruit and one of his elbows knocks over his glass of milk. TJ, 11, goes into big brother mode and begins the verbal jabs. As my wife Julie hurried for some towels, the boys continue jawing and Janelle starts running around the table singing some song, REALLY LOUD. As Julie returns with the towels, she sees me sitting there, mouth open, watching all of this unfold. She gets my attention and I just begin to laugh. I look at her and say, "If people only knew." Welcome to retirement, Trent!

The advice given in #7 needs to be heeded in #e.

I get that everyone has to take care of their kids. But lets not forget Trent, that the vast majority in the world are doing all the things you just described
and at the same time working to make financial ends meet.

Being retired at 39 is still a GREAT and RARE gig whether you get to spend it on the golf course or cleaning up your kid's messes. People don't need to be told its not all glorious.

 

[Doomsday101]

Make that 3700 and 2500 and I'm in.

As long as we accomplish the goal that is what I'm interested in. The individual numbers are pretty much meaningless to me at this stage. In 93 Troy had 3,100 yards passing 3,400 and we won SB's. Like many others I think Troy was capable of a lot more but it was not about Troy putting up big numbers it was about the team winning SB's. Achieve the goal nothing else matters and I think the way we do it will be with a balanced offense and a strong defense add in a solid specials team and I think we can get it done.

 

[DFWJC]

As long as we accomplish the goal that is what I'm interested in. The individual numbers are pretty much meaningless to me at this stage. In 93 Troy had 3,100 yards passing 3,400 and we won SB's. Like many others I think Troy was capable of a lot more but it was not about Troy putting up big numbers it was about the team winning SB's. Achieve the goal nothing else matters and I think the way we do it will be with a balanced offense and a strong defense add in a solid specials team and I think we can get it done.

Oh, I agree completely. I just liked our odds better with 3700/2500. But whatever gets us there is all that matters.

 

[Doomsday101]

Oh, I agree completely. I just liked our odds better with 3700/2500. But whatever gets us there is all that matters.

Then we are exactly on the same page. The motto of this team needs to be "whatever it takes"

 

[ArmyCowboy]

I don't know about that, the 4000 yard thing, that is.

The NFL is a copycat league and the running dominated teams like Carolina, Tennessee, baltimore and Pittsburgh all had great success last season.

If anything, I see teams trying to run more and pass less in the year or two to come.

 

[Tovya]

I say Romo gets 4160 yards, 38 TDs, 10 Int...

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Why isn't Romo included on the "lock" list? Injuries were only the reasons he didn't exceed 4,000 yards last season.

If Romo had played in the three games he missed, he would've had over 4,200 yards passing, which would've placed third in the league.

 

[NextGenBoys]

He passed for over 4000 yards last year. Besides the media loves the Packers.

It also may have to do with the fact that he's in a WCO type system, and they dont really have a running game.

I'm not sold on Ryan Grant. I said from day one back in 07 that he reminds me alot of Julius Jones. I dont see him doing anything this year.