Twitter: Trevon Diggs rehab. in the lab

[John813]

Actually it's not a dumb idea because people are smarter than you they've been doing this longer than you that are professionals... this is how you do rehab.

this you're not gonna get your feet caught in the grass and you're not going to get your feet caught in fake turf and it's also very straining you get twice as much done with less risk but,

if he is limping there's a reason for it I'm 54 years old and I've had several knee surgeries one major one in 2018 and don't say it's different before you hear this I am a lifelong IE since I was 28 years old I've been wakeboarding and snowboarding and doing extreme sports and I'm also an HVAC contractor and I work in a lot of addicts here in Texas my job is definitely taxing on the body and I played sports in high school..

So rehab is not new to me and I can tell you right now there's things that will make you limp from working out but that doesn't mean you haven't came back from the injury correctly there's a lot of scar tissue in there there's a lot of non-mobility for length of time now when you try to get back on it you limp even if it's fully healed.. You have to push it during rehab in order to know you're gonna be ready for the regular season but soreness slight limps those come just from getting back out there and trying to get strength back in the area again there are things called scar tissue and the fact that it hasn't been worked that way in a while so you're trying to get through that you're going to have pain coming back even after you're 100% sometimes you go slip like you're so used to protecting that leg your brain makes you limp...​

I've seen a split on sand training. Some benefits, some negatives.
Think it just comes down to the trainer/athlete and activities they do and being prepped for the different characteristics that sand offers.

Was curious on it so looked into it for a bit.


There was a study done regarding injuries in sand in regards to the Achilles tendon and running:

An asphalt running surface decreased mid-portion tendinopathy risk (RR 0.47, p = 0.02). In contrast, sand increased the relative risk for mid-portion Achilles tendinopathy tenfold (RR 10, CI 1.12 to 92.8, p = 0.01). Runners with more than 10 years experience had an increased risk (RR 1.6, p = 0.04) for Achilles tendinopathy.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18785416/

But for rehab, the conclusions are favorable:

Conclusions: These results show that on sand it is possible to perform maximal intensity sprints with higher energy expenditure and metabolic power values, without reaching maximum speed and with smaller impact shocks. Furthermore, exercises with change of direction carried out on this surface allow to reach higher deceleration values. In addition, sprinting on sand potentially entails a limited stretch of the involved muscles. It can therefore offer a valid alternative to traditional training, injury prevention and rehabilitation programs.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22883597/

 

[Whyjerry]

He is definitely in the best shape ever.

 

[blueblood70]

I've seen a split on sand training. Some benefits, some negatives.
Think it just comes down to the trainer/athlete and activities they do and being prepped for the different characteristics that sand offers.

Was curious on it so looked into it for a bit.


There was a study done regarding injuries in sand in regards to the Achilles tendon and running:

An asphalt running surface decreased mid-portion tendinopathy risk (RR 0.47, p = 0.02). In contrast, sand increased the relative risk for mid-portion Achilles tendinopathy tenfold (RR 10, CI 1.12 to 92.8, p = 0.01). Runners with more than 10 years experience had an increased risk (RR 1.6, p = 0.04) for Achilles tendinopathy.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18785416/

But for rehab, the conclusions are favorable:

Conclusions: These results show that on sand it is possible to perform maximal intensity sprints with higher energy expenditure and metabolic power values, without reaching maximum speed and with smaller impact shocks. Furthermore, exercises with change of direction carried out on this surface allow to reach higher deceleration values. In addition, sprinting on sand potentially entails a limited stretch of the involved muscles. It can therefore offer a valid alternative to traditional training, injury prevention and rehabilitation programs.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22883597/

I realize you can look up whatever you want but I'm telling you the trainers the rehab guys the doctors these guys know what they're doing they're not sitting here behind a computer claiming to be an expert I think I'm gonna leave it up to them and the player has all the information he needs and if this is what he's choosing to do this is what he's doing and I trust them more than you.. That's all I'm saying I've never trained on saying because I don't care I rehab in different ways I use resistance bands and regular ways of rehabbing.. I mean can you not get that through your head you can claim to wanna trying to bash them for doing this and these people are professionals literally it's all they do is rehab professional sports athletes I'm gonna let it fall on them to decide how much is too much and what you're seeing may have only been 30 minutes.. Lots of guys rehab in the sand I don't know why but whatever way it is they're doing it and I really don't care as long as he's back healthy for the season...

 

[John813]

I realize you can look up whatever you want but I'm telling you the trainers the rehab guys the doctors these guys know what they're doing they're not sitting here behind a computer claiming to be an expert I think I'm gonna leave it up to them and the player has all the information he needs and if this is what he's choosing to do this is what he's doing and I trust them more than you.. That's all I'm saying I've never trained on saying because I don't care I rehab in different ways I use resistance bands and regular ways of rehabbing.. I mean can you not get that through your head you can claim to wanna trying to bash them for doing this and these people are professionals literally it's all they do is rehab professional sports athletes I'm gonna let it fall on them to decide how much is too much and what you're seeing may have only been 30 minutes.. Lots of guys rehab in the sand I don't know why but whatever way it is they're doing it and I really don't care as long as he's back healthy for the season...

Way to take a post to the extreme.
Wasn't disagreeing, bashing or trying to be an expert.
The 2nd article supports training in sand for rehab.

 

[DallasEast]

What's all this "in the lab" talk about lately? This dude is having fun on some beach. The others were just working out. What lab?

This is a (sports) lab.

'Lab' has been mentioned so often recently that I am surprised Dexter and Dee Dee have not popped up yet.

 

[plymkr]

ok running in the sand has been proven to be 10x more harmful to your ligaments then standard running. yes it conditions you better but can put more strain on those ligaments. he's coming off a surgery someone should have told his this was a dumb idea.

That’s what I was thinking. Get him off the beach!

 

[Coogiguy03]

Why? He can have a good season and not struggle. Why do some assume it will take 2 years.

Possibly OL can take a bit longer, because they are bearing more weight on it.

Most all players coming back from these type of injuries seems to take them another year to fully have their confidence!

 

[VaqueroTD]

I hope he recovers quickly. Going to be fun watching him and Bland out there if fully healthy. Haven’t been this excited about Cowboy CB potential in a while.

 

[calicowboy54]

Actually it's not a dumb idea because people are smarter than you they've been doing this longer than you that are professionals... this is how you do rehab.

this you're not gonna get your feet caught in the grass and you're not going to get your feet caught in fake turf and it's also very straining you get twice as much done with less risk but,

if he is limping there's a reason for it I'm 54 years old and I've had several knee surgeries one major one in 2018 and don't say it's different before you hear this I am a lifelong IE since I was 28 years old I've been wakeboarding and snowboarding and doing extreme sports and I'm also an HVAC contractor and I work in a lot of addicts here in Texas my job is definitely taxing on the body and I played sports in high school..

So rehab is not new to me and I can tell you right now there's things that will make you limp from working out but that doesn't mean you haven't came back from the injury correctly there's a lot of scar tissue in there there's a lot of non-mobility for length of time now when you try to get back on it you limp even if it's fully healed.. You have to push it during rehab in order to know you're gonna be ready for the regular season but soreness slight limps those come just from getting back out there and trying to get strength back in the area again there are things called scar tissue and the fact that it hasn't been worked that way in a while so you're trying to get through that you're going to have pain coming back even after you're 100% sometimes you go slip like you're so used to protecting that leg your brain makes you limp...​

hahahaha your a joke buddy

 

[FanofJerry]

Is it normal to be running on a beach after tearing up your knee? I remember about 20 years ago that RB from the Patriots injured his knee at the pro bowl by playing flag football on the beach. I thought beaches were pretty unsafe for knees.

Because of one incident?

Now...I could see a situation where your mind and muscles are expecting to touch and launch off a hard surface but its actually sand...and your foot buries into the sand for an extra inch or two...and this difference causes an injury due to the "not normal rhythm" throwing your joints/muscles off.

But Im no doctor.

 

[blueblood70]

Way to take a post to the extreme.
Wasn't disagreeing, bashing or trying to be an expert.
The 2nd article supports training in sand for rehab.

Look man it's not extreme ohh the post however I feel the post at the time and I don't open everyone's links and videos and I almost never watch any of the videos that people post that are all rumor rhetoric and hyperbole it's just a waste of time these people talking about players and the ownership and all this crap it's all coming from their own brain there's nothing out from the star or any actual official news and quotes coming from the front office or anywhere else it's just a bunch of entertainment right now because we have nothing else to talk about..

So I said what I said from personal experience on rehab and I didn't open your link so I didn't see it supporting it or not supporting it I'm talking directly to you not spreadsheets or whatever information is out there I know personally at my age the stuff I still do to my body and how it feels and reacts the people mainly I'm pointing this out to is them thinking he's limping and has something to do with the sand or he's not ready to come back and that's a falsehood you limp some of it's from a ghost limp your body's still trying to protect it even though it's healed and some of it's just breaking scar tissue away and retraining muscles to work a certain way you're gonna limp sometimes even if you're 100% back from the injury...​

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I'm just adding in my opinion take it or leave it if you think it's extreme that's too bad that's what I felt like writing at the time..​

 

[blueblood70]

hahahaha your a joke buddy

actually I think you're the clown in here you don't like it cause I just stated facts these people know more than you that's their job they're literally working with professional athletes and you're posting on a damn forum and saying that you know something you don't know **** we're all posting opinions and rhetoric and hyperbole none of it is real if you think it's real you might wanna take your happy pills come back tomorrow and post something that makes sense..

My post makes sense we have professional trainers doctors rehab specialists poor responsible for professional athletes people on here are questioning the way they're bringing them through rehab and that's the joke you all are the clowns in here when you say things like that you're the joke...

I don't get it I mean you literally know I'm right but you wanna be right so you just say something like that that somehow bails you out you back that's way to backtrack buddy...

 

[nobody]

Do these guys do these exact things before injuries so they have video of a baseline to examine in comparison to the ones they do while rehabbing to measure progress? If not, why?

 

[bigE79]

Most all players coming back from these type of injuries seems to take them another year to fully have their confidence!

Totally agree and as a matter of fact I don't expect much from diggs at all this year... should have kept Gilmore.

 

[plymkr]

Because of one incident?

Now...I could see a situation where your mind and muscles are expecting to touch and launch off a hard surface but its actually sand...and your foot buries into the sand for an extra inch or two...and this difference causes an injury due to the "not normal rhythm" throwing your joints/muscles off.

But Im no doctor.

I would think that a beach is not as safe as more solid ground but I’m no doctor either. So I’m assuming his doctors and trainers are good with it cuz they know a lot more than me.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Totally agree and as a matter of fact I don't expect much from diggs at all this year... should have kept Gilmore.

Please explain this to @jazzcat22

 

[jazzcat22]

Please explain this to @jazzcat22

It does not need to be explained. We will see when the season starts.
All I am saying is, don’t rush to judge the situation. Many players come back with a year For an injury.

 

[HungryLion]

Why? He can have a good season and not struggle. Why do some assume it will take 2 years.

Possibly OL can take a bit longer, because they are bearing more weight on it.

It could go either way. He may be ready and back to normal this season.

He also might need more time. We just had two players coming off ACL injuries who struggled coming back. Gallup and Steele.

Shoot, Gallup has never been the same.

 

[Coogiguy03]

It does not need to be explained. We will see when the season starts.
All I am saying is, don’t rush to judge the situation. Many players come back with a year For an injury.

Hey hey well don't be mad at me young man I sent the smiley face I didn't want any hard feelings!

 

[Coogiguy03]

It could go either way. He may be ready and back to normal this season.

He also might need more time. We just had two players coming off ACL injuries who struggled coming back. Gallup and Steele.

Shoot, Gallup has never been the same.

Good point