Troy Aikman: Beyond the Numbers

[dckid]

Terry Bradshaw or Troy Aikman?

Aikman, hands down. Terry was not as talented.

 

[john van brocklin]

Thanks for posting this. This was the beginning of the end. Jimmy was the culture because he created it.
Jerry thought 500 guys could coach the Cowboys to a SB. He was wrong then and 28 years later he is still wrong.

It’s his ego which is preventing this organization from success. The only way for it to change is to have fans not show up. We need the Saints behavior of the 80’s

Fans need to wear the bags over their heads to the home games.

 

[HungryLion]

Terry Bradshaw or Troy Aikman?

I like Bradshaw as a tv personality but it ain’t close on the football field. Aikman.

 

[tunahelper]

For those who may believe that a quarterback's stats tell the whole story of their value:

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This is leadership.

Greatness has to have consistent and immense effort first and foremost. Talent is important, however effort, focus, preparation, ego-free mindset, can overtake Talent. When you put it all together within an organization you achieve greatness.

 

[Captain-Crash]

lmao, and they are some groupies in here who think dak is better than Troy.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

Barry Switzer was a dunce classic Jerry guy

 

[plasticman]

Terry Bradshaw or Troy Aikman?

Adolph Hitler or Abraham Lincoln?

 

[plasticman]

Pretty sure "501" was a newspaper headline after one of our losses.

They owe me money.

Seriously, I never saw that but I always assumed somebody else comes up with the same idea. I've never considered myself original. I mean, even if I am a "one in a million" kind of guy, there are 400 in this country exactly like me. That wasn't original, by the way.

 

[jnday]

Allen was discovered by a scout that Jimmy Johnson had worked with for years before he came to the Cowboys. You can bet the house that Jimmy knew all about Allen and had planned to draft him all along. I wouldn't even doubt that Jerry used Jimmy's draft board that year.

If Jerry was smart, he used Jimmy’s draft board. I am sure he relabeled it “Jerry’s draft board “ and took all of the credit.

 

[mattjames2010]

We all know Troy Aikman had a stretch of 5 seasons of great QB play especially in the playoffs. Problem being, when he lost a couple all-pros on that team, his play fell off a cliff. 5 years of garbage play and 5 years of quality play. That was the story of Troy Aikman. He blames the coaches and Jerry, I think he was also part of the problem.

 

[Aven8]

For someone that saw all of his games he sucked at the deep ball, and I always thought he was a wimp. Having said that he was probably the most accurate QB ever.

 

[JonesBoys]

Basically Jerry wasted the back half of the triplets careers as well trying to prove he didn’t need Jimmy.

 

[JayFord]

anybody looking at stats and saying Troy wasnt worth his value is full of nonsense

i watched Troys Career....Dallas was a run first run second mentality team Aikman did what he needed to do and did it at a HOF level and as a Playoff QB he was outright deadly

 

[plasticman]

We all know Troy Aikman had a stretch of 5 seasons of great QB play especially in the playoffs. Problem being, when he lost a couple all-pros on that team, his play fell off a cliff. 5 years of garbage play and 5 years of quality play. That was the story of Troy Aikman. He blames the coaches and Jerry, I think he was also part of the problem.

One of Aikman's best seasons was 1998 at the age of 32 when he no longer had Novacek, Harper, Stepnoski, and Tuinei. Three out of four were Pro Bowlers. His productivity declined at the same time the team's talent level declined, the guys that replace those four were mostly busts like David Lafleur and Clay Shiver or non-productive free agents like Billy Davis and Jeff Ogden.

He lost Irvin, Johnston and Newton in 1999, all three All-Pros. Their replacements were not exactly household names.

By the time Troy Aikman retired in 2000, Emmitt was the only offensive player that had shared three Super Bowl championships with him.

Aikman was never part of the problem, that offense was systematically destroyed by Jerry Jones's failure as a GM to adapt to free agency as well as being a putrid talent evaluator.

 

[mattjames2010]

One of Aikman's best seasons was 1998 at the age of 32 when he no longer had Novacek, Harper, Stepnoski, and Tuinei. Three out of four were Pro Bowlers. His productivity declined at the same time the team's talent level declined, the guys that replace those four were mostly busts like David Lafleur and Clay Shiver or non-productive free agents like Billy Davis and Jeff Ogden.

He lost Irvin, Johnston and Newton in 1999, all three All-Pros. Their replacements were not exactly household names.

By the time Troy Aikman retired in 2000, Emmitt was the only offensive player that had shared three Super Bowl championships with him.

Aikman was never part of the problem, that offense was systematically destroyed by Jerry Jones's failure as a GM to adapt to free agency as well as being a putrid talent evaluator.

He played in 11 games that season (shocker he was injured) and stunk it up in the playoffs having a whopping 37.0 QB rating.

 

[Legend]

He played in 11 games that season (shocker he was injured) and stunk it up in the playoffs having a whopping 37.0 QB rating.

Aikman already became a legend with a playoff record of 10 wins 1 loss; 21 TDs 8 INTs; passing rating of 106.8; and 3 SBs and 1 SB MVP from 1992-1995.

Do you expect a player’s performance to drop as they age and get close to retirement?

Imagine if the Cowboys win 10 of their next 11 playoff games. That will be 2-3 SB victories.

 

[mattjames2010]

Aikman already became a legend with a playoff record of 10 wins 1 loss; 21 TDs 8 INTs; passing rating of 106.8; and 3 SBs and 1 SB MVP from 1992-1995.

Do you expect a player’s performance to drop as they age and get close to retirement?

Imagine if the Cowboys win 10 of their next 11 playoff games. That will be 2-3 SB victories.

I expect a QB to have that happen gradually, not for his play to fall off a cliff. His accuracy was the worst drop off. The last 4 seasons of his career he was completing less than 60% of his passes.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

Heartbreaking….Jimmy and Troy would have won 5 super bowls in a row.

 

[noshame]

Great, starting the day off sobbing in my cheerios

Jerry, 500 12 year olds could run the Cowboys better than you

 

[Legend]

I expect a QB to have that happen gradually, not for his play to fall off a cliff. His accuracy was the worst drop off. The last 4 seasons of his career he was completing less than 60% of his passes.

Did you watch the video posted on the thread?

The Cowboys downfall started after Jimmy Johnson was fired.

I.e., they got worse with each passing year from 1994-1997.

After Switzer, Gailey was the coach for seasons 1998 and 1999.

Gailey help contribute to the boneheaded decision of not drafting Randy Moss who would have help the aging Triplets.

Then Campo 2000, 2001, and 2002. 3 straight years of 5-11.