Troy Hit the Nail on the Head

[PJTHEDOORS]

All we needed was Romo!

You can watch him on tv to feel your need.

 

[kramskoi]

Given what we saw in Denver, one definitely must hope that Elliot isn't put on the shelf for six weeks (suspension). Without a potent running game, it would seem that they would struggle to reach 8-8 on the year. In any event, we should know more about the trajectory of this team after Green Bay in a few weeks. I will suspend judgment until then...considering some players will be returning to the lineup over the next few weeks.

That said, this beat-down does raise a real cause for concern, though I didn't think they would win this game so early in the year. Playing at altitude certainly did not help, but the Denver defense might just be the saltiest in the NFL when you can't run the ball. The sobering surprise was the complete washout of the o-line. They got their rear ends handed to them...all day. When the Cowboys are on the wrong side of TOP, it usually means they are losing. The one given you could always count on last year was the running game. To have it completely neutered was something as arresting as Dallas losing to San Francisco in the 1994 title game. It was that...frigging...bad.

 

[Bullflop]

All we needed was Romo!

Not so -- he likely would have been done after the 1st hit from a Bronco d-lineman. The OL failed miserably in this one. Romo retired -- deal with it.

 

[Melonfeud]

Given what we saw in Denver, one definitely must hope that Elliot isn't put on the shelf for six weeks (suspension). Without a potent running game, it would seem that they would struggle to reach 8-8 on the year. In any event, we should know more about the trajectory of this team after Green Bay in a few weeks. I will suspend judgment until then...considering some players will be returning to the lineup over the next few weeks.

That said, this beat-down does raise a real cause for concern, though I didn't think they would win this game so early in the year. Playing at altitude certainly did not help, but the Denver defense might just be the saltiest in the NFL when you can't run the ball. The sobering surprise was the complete washout of the o-line. They got their rear ends handed to them...all day. When the Cowboys are on the wrong side of TOP, it usually means they are losing. The one given you could always count on last year was the running game. To have it completely neutered was something as arresting as Dallas losing to San Francisco in the 1994 title game. It was that...frigging...bad.

Aaron Rodgers is gonna skin us outta our underware if we still field serviceable underware by then,,, yet, with the attrition of injuries suffered by all, ,,,you never know

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

All we needed was Romo!

For what? To get carted off the field? The way that OL was playing Romo wouldn't have made it past the 1st quarter.

 

[Sarge]

For what? To get carted off the field? The way that OL was playing Romo wouldn't have made it past the 1st minute.

Fixed that for ya.

 

[pacy]

Towards the end of tje game Troy Aikmain remarked that everyone pretty much agreed that the outcome of this game would depend on the performance of the Cowboy offensive line. I was certainly one of them

After all, when you are a 1st team All-Pro then that means you are considered the best out of all 32 players that that play your specific position in the NFL. And "best" means you are better than the other 31 .

The Cowboys have three 1st team All-Pro's on their offensive line. They have another at the RB position.

When you look at the primary parts of a running game you consider the ball carrier and his offensive line. Four if those players for the Cowboys were the best at their position.

However there is another dominant presense on the defensive side of the 1st team All Pro team.

The Broncos have a combination of both CB's in addition to a pass rushing linebacker.

All three, as explained, are the best at their position in the league. Yes, both Bronco CB''s were 1st Team All Pros, meaning no other team in the leaguehad one. There are only two, of course.

The outcome of this game was determined by the the performance of the Cowboy offensive line in conjunction with the Bronco trio.

And, for anyone claiming that being All Pro is popularity or politics or it doesn't mean anything, then I offer these facts:

Last season the Bronco defense had the fewest opponent receptions ffor over 40 yards......they also lead the league in the same category for 20 yard gains.

As an offensive coordinator, you would never attempt a gameplan that called for throwing long (40 yards), or medium (20 yards) because that would be really stupid. You would expose your quarterback for a longer period of time against the best pass rusher in the league and you would throw into the best CB coverage in the league.

Therefore, it came down to the offensive line winming the battle in the trenches. They didn't.

The fact that they didn't startwd a domino effect:

They couldn't run. If they couldn't run, Dak was forced to throw it where the Bronco CB didn't dominate, short.
For a full season these CB's owned the middle amd the deep.

Meanwhile, the defense was forced into action too quickly and for too long. The secondary had to contend with two 1000 yard receivers feom last season, without their leader, Scandrick. Then they lost Carrol. A unit considered already weak became weaker and weaker while the Bronco passing game became stronger and stronger.

The two Dak INT's are circumstantial, one bounced off a player, the other happened late in the. 4th quarter when risks must be taken to perform a miracle.

The offensive line if the reason for this loss, they were dominated by the Broncos. Three of them considered the best, two get payed big, the other looking to get paid big.....all former 1st round picks joined by another that should have been.....I'm sure they will make certain it doesn't happen again. They have pride and they were outplayed.and they know it.

But we have a coach who blames it on the passing game. It was clearly the inefficiency of the oline to create holes for Zeke. Denver doesn't have a good run defense, at least not until yesterday but we weren't able to take advantage of this.

 

[Cowboysfan917]

I think a lot of people have treated the offensive line like it was for sure going to be a dominant unit after changing 2 of the 5 players in the offseason.

 

[Cowboysfan917]

But we have a coach who blames it on the passing game. It was clearly the inefficiency of the oline to create holes for Zeke. Denver didn't have a good run defense, at least not until yesterday but we weren't able to take advantage of this.

There were several inaccurate throws yesterday and in week one from Dak that would have been game changers. Also he doesn't like to take risks down the field so once they got a lead, we weren't able to throw back in. That is what JG was pointing out.

The offensive line got blown up but welcome to the NFL. That happens some times and few QB's get a line as good as 2016. I think that it is possible the offensive line is no longer an elite unit but still an above average unit after making 2 changes in the offseason. I believe the line is still better than anything Romo had 2006-2013 or better than most of the league.

 

[birdwells1]

As I stated, game film won't be to kind to the OL.... on the flip side of that - - HOWEVER is the staggering fact of creativity on our plays we call. We rely on the simple fact-our guys will beat yours.....all over the board WR TE RB OL

Until we can scheme creativity into our plays, giving "ours" an advantage..... Don't expect much different

When was the last time that we looked on our sidelines and felt that "our talent is even (to the opponent's) but our coaching gives us the advantage"?

 

[Macnalty]

Mehhh...it was a perfect crap storm tonight. Offense couldn;t get in rhythm to keep defense off the field. Defense couldn't get off the field. Vicious cycle and we got hit with the buzzsaw... in Denver against a non-division opponent. I'm already over it.

I think we had some Giant hangover and got caught a mile high with only two lungs.

 

[Satchel89]

Mehhh...it was a perfect crap storm tonight. Offense couldn;t get in rhythm to keep defense off the field. Defense couldn't get off the field. Vicious cycle and we got hit with the buzzsaw... in Denver against a non-division opponent. I'm already over it.

Exactly. Some of the threads on here yesterday were just ridiculous. Some idiot wrote "I thought Witten was a leader?" That fan should just go root for another team. It was a perfect storm like you wrote and the Cowboys seem to have a bunch of fair-weathered fans.

 

[pacy]

There were several inaccurate throws yesterday and in week one from Dak that would have been game changers. Also he doesn't like to take risks down the field so once they got a lead, we weren't able to throw back in. That is what JG was pointing out.

The offensive line got blown up but welcome to the NFL. That happens some times and few QB's get a line as good as 2016. I think that it is possible the offensive line is no longer an elite unit but still an above average unit after making 2 changes in the offseason. I believe the line is still better than anything Romo had 2006-2013 or better than most of the league.

Yes you are right but all this Dak had to come from behind and was forced to throw it, started with not being able to get a running game going. Defense didn't help either though.

 

[bigbob]

Broncos Head Coach hit the nail on the head before the game even started. "They're easy to scout"

Yeah Dallas was out-coached on offense and defense today and you might even include special teams.
against a good team you need to have good coaching and we don't have that and today shows the results of not having actual good coaching .
we will still beat the Lesser teams but I guess against a good team this is what is going to happen.
No screens, no passing to E. E.
No deep passes. Too few runs.
If they wound up facing den in
SB should they just forfiet??

 

[willia451]

Broncos Head Coach hit the nail on the head before the game even started. "They're easy to scout"

The exact quote was "They're easy to scout, and hard to beat. You watch them, and its not a lot of complicated schemes but they're good at it and they've been successful."

Just for the record.

 

[The Natural]

The exact quote was "They're easy to scout, and hard to beat. You watch them, and its not a lot of complicated schemes but they're good at it and they've been successful."

Just for the record.

I know the full quote, the first part "they're easy to scout" was the truth, the "hard to beat" part was just being polite in the face of the media. Behind closed doors Vance and the Broncos probably believed all week they were going to stomp the hell out of this team after watching film.

 

[Brooksey]

Towards the end of tje game Troy Aikmain remarked that everyone pretty much agreed that the outcome of this game would depend on the performance of the Cowboy offensive line. I was certainly one of them

After all, when you are a 1st team All-Pro then that means you are considered the best out of all 32 players that that play your specific position in the NFL. And "best" means you are better than the other 31 .

The Cowboys have three 1st team All-Pro's on their offensive line. They have another at the RB position.

When you look at the primary parts of a running game you consider the ball carrier and his offensive line. Four if those players for the Cowboys were the best at their position.

However there is another dominant presense on the defensive side of the 1st team All Pro team.

The Broncos have a combination of both CB's in addition to a pass rushing linebacker.

All three, as explained, are the best at their position in the league. Yes, both Bronco CB''s were 1st Team All Pros, meaning no other team in the leaguehad one. There are only two, of course.

The outcome of this game was determined by the the performance of the Cowboy offensive line in conjunction with the Bronco trio.

And, for anyone claiming that being All Pro is popularity or politics or it doesn't mean anything, then I offer these facts:

Last season the Bronco defense had the fewest opponent receptions ffor over 40 yards......they also lead the league in the same category for 20 yard gains.

As an offensive coordinator, you would never attempt a gameplan that called for throwing long (40 yards), or medium (20 yards) because that would be really stupid. You would expose your quarterback for a longer period of time against the best pass rusher in the league and you would throw into the best CB coverage in the league.

Therefore, it came down to the offensive line winming the battle in the trenches. They didn't.

The fact that they didn't startwd a domino effect:

They couldn't run. If they couldn't run, Dak was forced to throw it where the Bronco CB didn't dominate, short.
For a full season these CB's owned the middle amd the deep.

Meanwhile, the defense was forced into action too quickly and for too long. The secondary had to contend with two 1000 yard receivers feom last season, without their leader, Scandrick. Then they lost Carrol. A unit considered already weak became weaker and weaker while the Bronco passing game became stronger and stronger.

The two Dak INT's are circumstantial, one bounced off a player, the other happened late in the. 4th quarter when risks must be taken to perform a miracle.

The offensive line if the reason for this loss, they were dominated by the Broncos. Three of them considered the best, two get payed big, the other looking to get paid big.....all former 1st round picks joined by another that should have been.....I'm sure they will make certain it doesn't happen again. They have pride and they were outplayed.and they know it.

We never committed to winning the battle up front for the run game, that's why we lost not because they are so great. We ran it 4-5 times and said it's pretty stuffy in there and tried to short pass it all night. That was the game plan, to pass it short all night. We did exactly what they wanted us to do. We played right into a rookie coaches hand.

 

[willia451]

I know the full quote, the first part "they're easy to scout" was the truth, the "hard to beat" part was just being polite in the face of the media. Behind closed doors Vance and the Broncos probably believed all week they were going to stomp the hell out of this team after watching film.

I see. So you cherry picked the part of the quote you wanted to support your narrative. Then when called out on it, dismissed the rest of the quote using speculation that neither you nor anyone else could possibly know.

Its called "building a strawman".

I'm not going to lie. A strawman argument can be quite effective. Especially after the result on the field of play we witnessed yesterday.

But its still a strawman.

 

[casmith07]

Yep, film room will be bad all around, none more than the oline.

That's a film you just throw in the trash. Not worth watching.

 

[The Natural]

I see. So you cherry picked the part of the quote you wanted to support your narrative. Then when called out on it, dismissed the rest of the quote using speculation that neither you nor anyone else could possibly know.

Its called "building a strawman".

I'm not going to lie. A strawman argument can be quite effective. Especially after the result on the field of play we witnessed yesterday.

But its still a strawman.

You're a JG apologist, keep it moving chump