Truth About Dez Bryant

[blackbull]

I think Garrett should taylor the offense towards his best players not the other way around. His offense should be more flexible in that regard. I hate to bring this up but we were told that Bennett had the same problems that Dez has and now he is playing pretty well in NY, it seems he "got" that offense in one offseason.

Ogletree had those same issues here and now he finally gets it in his fourth season, thats too long. It's frustrating to see a player like Dez just wilt away here. Just find out what he does best, and let him do that. If they see him 1 on 1, get him the ball once in a while.

No, no he must know this all time great offense of Garrett's! Lol great post man. People are so wrapped up in what Dez can't do instead of what he can. If he doesn't know the plays you should've traded him and kept Robinson. Let Dez go where his talent is used. Send him to the Colts and Luck would forget Wayne existed.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

Dez will get his. The problem is the protection needs to get better. If your QB doesn't have time to throw the ball then the WR can't make plays. Also running the ball is critical. If teams can just have 7 in the box and still stop the run that is a problem. Zone coverage + 3 or 4 man rush that gets pressure is a problem. The big uglies need to block plain and simple.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Dez will get his. The problem is the protection needs to get better. If your QB doesn't have time to throw the ball then the WR can't make plays. Also running the ball is critical. If teams can just have 7 in the box and still stop the run that is a problem. Zone coverage + 3 or 4 man rush that gets pressure is a problem. The big uglies need to block plain and simple.

Basic football.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

how quickly every post becomes:

Red is the problem.
Romo is the problem.
OL
JJ
CZ posters are losers


Dez is an elite talent who is learning the game--if he stays healthy, he'll be a huge part of the offense just Austin, Murray, etc.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

This whole "Dez will NEVER get it together" "Dez has been a scrub thus far" "Dez is average at best!" Is flat out incorrect

The whole Roddy white discussion brings me to this...

Roddy white first 32 games: 59 rec, 952 yards, 3 Touchdowns.

Roddy was also a 1st round pick.. and came into the league at 24

Dez Bryant first 30 games: 121 rec, 1653 yards, 15 Touchdowns

Dez Bryant is NOW 23 years old with a multitude of issues coming into the league including last years lockout

Here is a quick list of "Top" wideouts whose first 2 years are either equal or worse than Dez's

Greg Jennings
Reggie Wayne
Michael Irvin
Terrell Owens
Steve Smith
Vincent Jackson
Santonio Holmes

Now that is just a quick list I am not gonna go through every top receiver of the past 20 years but you get the point. I am as disappointed as anyone that Dez hasn't put up numbers to match his talent yet but to pretend as if his numbers are "Average" is ridiculous.

Dez Came into the league younger than almost any rookie, and without playing his JR. season.. He followed that year up with a lockout year and for someone who has problems grasping playbooks that is a BIG deal.

In the amount of targets that Dez gets his production is actually off the charts. SOME if not MUCH of the blame for Dez's "Lack of production" is that the cowboys have been unable to involve him early and often. Other teams give their playmakers MANY chances to make plays..

One of Dez's best "Qualities" as a receiver is his ability to meet the ball at its highest point and win jump balls.. We give him no chances to make big plays this way.. That should change.

Once again I am waiting on the production to match the talent but to assume that it will never happen is absurd. He as of now is younger than many rookies from this years draft.

WOW!

To be honest with you, im glad Im not the only one that see this. Dez probably don't get the 100 yard 2 touchdown game in and game out but the catches he makes is actually majority of first down catches. He get yards that mean something. Dez is special but once he truly breaks out, Jerry Rice watch out. This guy needs deep passes but he's not able to get that because Romo don't really have a good line. Im just hoping this line comes together and get it together. Free is letting his opposition freely get pass him to Romo which is what we don't need. If Romo had a good O-line than Bryant and a whole lot of players would have good production. Vernon Carey is still out there. Andre Gurode is still out there.

Cowboys need to do something with this offensive line. Also, Cowboys might need to get Fiamatta back and replace Vickers.

Thoughts?

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Dez has to work on his route running once he does that and get it down pack. He's going to be even more dangerous than he is now along with Romo getting a offensive line to actually give him time to get it to him.

 

[bleedin' blue]

Well said

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Dez and Miles are going to have to stay healthy to reach ever have a fighting chance of reaching the plateau of a Roddy White....add Julio to that list.

 

[AbeBeta]

I think Garrett should taylor the offense towards his best players not the other way around. His offense should be more flexible in that regard.

"Taylor" his offense to the best players?

Here's a thought. To be a "best" player, you need to actually run your routes correctly. It is impossible to "taylor" an offense around someone who won't do what he is supposed to.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

"Taylor" his offense to the best players?

Here's a thought. To be a "best" player, you need to actually run your routes correctly. It is impossible to "taylor" an offense around someone who won't do what he is supposed to.

So Dez still isn't running the correct routes?

By what means are we coming to this conclusion?

 

[CowboyRoy]

This whole "Dez will NEVER get it together" "Dez has been a scrub thus far" "Dez is average at best!" Is flat out incorrect

The whole Roddy white discussion brings me to this...

Roddy white first 32 games: 59 rec, 952 yards, 3 Touchdowns.

Roddy was also a 1st round pick.. and came into the league at 24

Dez Bryant first 30 games: 121 rec, 1653 yards, 15 Touchdowns

Dez Bryant is NOW 23 years old with a multitude of issues coming into the league including last years lockout

Here is a quick list of "Top" wideouts whose first 2 years are either equal or worse than Dez's

Greg Jennings
Reggie Wayne
Michael Irvin
Terrell Owens
Steve Smith
Vincent Jackson
Santonio Holmes

Now that is just a quick list I am not gonna go through every top receiver of the past 20 years but you get the point. I am as disappointed as anyone that Dez hasn't put up numbers to match his talent yet but to pretend as if his numbers are "Average" is ridiculous.

Dez Came into the league younger than almost any rookie, and without playing his JR. season.. He followed that year up with a lockout year and for someone who has problems grasping playbooks that is a BIG deal.

In the amount of targets that Dez gets his production is actually off the charts. SOME if not MUCH of the blame for Dez's "Lack of production" is that the cowboys have been unable to involve him early and often. Other teams give their playmakers MANY chances to make plays..

One of Dez's best "Qualities" as a receiver is his ability to meet the ball at its highest point and win jump balls.. We give him no chances to make big plays this way.. That should change.

Once again I am waiting on the production to match the talent but to assume that it will never happen is absurd. He as of now is younger than many rookies from this years draft.

Who said it will never happen? You were comparing the dez and Austin now to the White now. And you were dead wrong. And just because other receivers have turned it on and matured, doesnt make it certain that Dez will or how much he will. The guy clearly has mental, emotional, maturity, and intelligence issues. Will that change? We can only hope. But thus far, he has been a complete disappointment given his upside.

 

[casmith07]

5-star thread.

 

[CowboyRoy]

So Dez still isn't running the correct routes?

By what means are we coming to this conclusion?

Its a fact relayed by the coaching staff over the course of the last several years. If you havent read this or known this, then you havent been paying attention. And no, I am not going to pull up an article for you. Do your own research.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Its a fact relayed by the coaching staff over the course of the last several years. If you havent read this or known this, then you havent been paying attention. And no, I am not going to pull up an article for you. Do your own research.

I don't need to do the research because you didn't answer my question in the first place. I asked by what means we are coming to the conclusion that Dez is STILL having trouble with his route running.. not what we've heard in past seasons. I know without looking that no one in the Cowboys organization has said anything about him still not knowing the playbook or running the correct routes or anything to that nature.

So to assume that he's still just messing up would be incorrect without any information to actually back it up.. but im not suprised. Everything is always Dez fault. Even when he catches 65 passes for just under 1000 yards and 9 TD's in only his sophomore season in the NFL, that's all somehow in spite of himself.

 

[Plumfool]

By watching games u can tell that they're moments where the offense seems to say whose turn is it to catch the ball? Dez and Miles seem to get their catches in spurts. Seems obvious as to why that is.

 

[Plumfool]

I don't need to do the research because you didn't answer my question in the first place. I asked by what means we are coming to the conclusion that Dez is STILL having trouble with his route running.. not what we've heard in past seasons. I know without looking that no one in the Cowboys organization has said anything about him still not knowing the playbook or running the correct routes or anything to that nature.

So to assume that he's still just messing up would be incorrect without any information to actually back it up.. but im not suprised. Everything is always Dez fault. Even when he catches 65 passes for just under 1000 yards and 9 TD's in only his sophomore season in the NFL, that's all somehow in spite of himself.

Exactamundo!! (in Samuel L. Jackson's voice)

 

[tecolote]

"Taylor" his offense to the best players?

Here's a thought. To be a "best" player, you need to actually run your routes correctly. It is impossible to "taylor" an offense around someone who won't do what he is supposed to.

Yes, tell that to Belichick when Moss was there. Or when he was in Minnesota. Or Wallace in Pittsburgh right now. Here is Garrett's use of Dez in a nuttshell.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I would just like to note that WR is one of the position that can take the longest before a great player develops at the NFL level.

Dez is an imminence talent. The issue with him is is maturity. Maturity can easily be his downfall. As of yet, he hasn't shown that he has.

You can't compare Dez to Roddy (or most of the other players on that list) development wise. They are completely different circumstances. Dez has the maturity level of a 14 year old kid.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Jon Machota ‏@jonmachota
NFL scouts on Dez Bryant: He's prone to frustration. He will not run every route the same way. Lacks on-field discipline. (via @danpompei)

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Jon Machota ‏@jonmachota
NFL scouts on Dez Bryant: He's prone to frustration. He will not run every route the same way. Lacks on-field discipline. (via @danpompei)

Those same NFL scouts on Dez Bryant:

Bryant can stretch the field and adjust to the ball. He comes out of breaks well and creates separation from defenders. He has a big catching radius and can high-point a pass.