Trying isn't good enough

[Jarntt]

So one of the other three NFC East teams should win the division easily this season?

Who said easily?

 

[DarkVader33]

And the GMs watch a ton of tape and read a ton of those scouting reports. This is what I'm trying to tell you, Jerry refuses to do so. That's why we make mistakes like Mazi and Gregory.

GMs do not just listen to the scouts and then make decisions willy nilly. There is tons and tons more to it than that.

I’m not saying you’re right or wrong but I’m sure you’ve never worked with a GM before. Also I’m sure every GM operates differently. These blanket comments that aren’t reality don’t help the narrative. And yes I know Jerry sucks, but we don’t have to make stuff up to make it worse. And again, I know other GMs run circles around Jerry, so to be clear I’m not defending Jerry.

 

[TwentyOne]

Isn’t that what the scouts are for? What GM realistically has the time to run a whole organization and scout players?

He doesnt do that for every specific player during their college career. Thats scouts work. But for the more interessting players who established themselfs he does.

But he has to have fundamental knowledge about those things so he is able to understand what scouts are talking about.

I honestly doubt the Joneses have that. Nor do they put the work into it to gain the necessary knowledge.

 

[ShiningStar]

Jerry has been talk and action,. Cowboy fans did NOT want to accept it.

The ONLY act that matters and will speak truth, is the first pick of the draft. Thats it. Everybody else is guessing.

 

[DarkVader33]

He doesnt do that for every specific player during their college career. Thats scouts work. But for the more interessting players who established themselfs he does.

But he has to have fundamental knowledge about those things so he is able to understand what scouts are talking about.

I honestly doubt the Joneses have that. Nor do they put the work into it to gain the necessary knowledge.

That Is a more sensible opinion that I can agree with

 

[GMO415]

Before this very important off-season began, our owner/GM stated once again publicly that they were willing to “break the bank” to add talent to this roster. Halfway through the 2026 off-season that has not happened.

And both JJ and SJ continue to tell the fan base they “tried” to acquire a top edge rusher and FA LB but the prices were “too high”. (Side note: NFL truth - The best talent out there is not coming here for less money. You have to overpay. Sorry sad truth)

So…as fans…are we now supposed to give our FO “credit” just for trying to sign or trade for a big impact player? But the price was too high? We didn’t get it done, but “we tried”? Seems to me in professional sports credit is earned when you do it, not when you simply try.

That’s especially true IMO with a front office that does a ton of talking but rarely back it up. And the only way we heard they tried so hard is they tell us all the time…without getting it done.

I think it’s fair for Cowboys fans to say at this point, “Don’t tell us what you’re planning or hoping to do. Show us what you've done.” Otherwise stop talking. Talk when it’s done.

This FO should not get the benefit of the doubt with the track record they have given us for decades.

BULLET!!!
I'll take it one step further, "Good Enough is the Enemy of Excellence"

 

[kskboys]

I’m not saying you’re right or wrong but I’m sure you’ve never worked with a GM before. Also I’m sure every GM operates differently. These blanket comments that aren’t reality don’t help the narrative. And yes I know Jerry sucks, but we don’t have to make stuff up to make it worse. And again, I know other GMs run circles around Jerry, so to be clear I’m not defending Jerry.

Well duh. No one here has.

I'm thinking your blanket comments are not helping the narrative!!!!!!!!!

Dude, just stop. I am not making a single thing up. That's generally the accusation when one has lost the argument, so I guess you're conceding.

Here's how simple it is. The GM is responsible for player acquisition, for putting together the team. It requires a ton of work which Jerry refuses to do.

I'd like you to point out one single thing that I've made up. There was no reason for you to toss that grade school accusation at me.

 

[kskboys]

That Is a more sensible opinion that I can agree with

Which is exactly what I've been saying.

 

[kskboys]

He doesnt do that for every specific player during their college career. Thats scouts work. But for the more interessting players who established themselfs he does.

But he has to have fundamental knowledge about those things so he is able to understand what scouts are talking about.

I honestly doubt the Joneses have that. Nor do they put the work into it to gain the necessary knowledge.

Jerry has admitted publicly that he does not. Not sure where you got the bolded from, as it's not accurate, and he has said so himself.

 

[kskboys]

The draft isn't our problem. Every team has draft picks they'd like back. Our fatal flaw is sitting out free agency. That's problem #1, 2 and 3. Other issues are overvaluing our own players and dragging out the negotiations until it's too late to do anything else because we have no real plan or vision and just instead make decisions day to day. There also seems to be a cash flow issue. Not necessarily that they don't have it, but maybe just that they don't want to part with it. So they try and trade for players whose signing bonuses are already out of the way and who cost us draft picks which hurts our draft and usually these players have been disappointments for one reason or another and then we are surprised when most are disappointments here as well.

How often to most teams sign a big $, impact outside free agent? On average once every year and a half (guessing)? Some teams twice in one offseason. We signed a safety to an average contract and that's the first one in a decade and a half. Assume we have been doing that all along and add 3 big money free agents to this team and we look a lot better. You sit out one of the major player acquisition avenues and you are just incompetent and playing with a handicap. Ignoring the best players ins free agency is not defendable, sustainable, smart or reasonable if the goal is a SB.

The draft IS our problem. Taking players such as Schooner, Kelvin, Jaylon, Trysten, Mazi, that is the root of our problems.

 

[DarkVader33]

Well duh. No one here has.

I'm thinking your blanket comments are not helping the narrative!!!!!!!!!

Dude, just stop. I am not making a single thing up. That's generally the accusation when one has lost the argument, so I guess you're conceding.

Here's how simple it is. The GM is responsible for player acquisition, for putting together the team. It requires a ton of work which Jerry refuses to do.

I'd like you to point out one single thing that I've made up. There was no reason for you to toss that grade school accusation at me.

What did I say wrong? No one here knows how GMs actually operate or do their jobs. We can only go by results. And results don't alway tell the whole story. Take for instance Wolf from the packers. He was the best at it for a while and then, I don't know if it was bad luck or not, but he could no longer do anything right. And he isn't the only one. However, we can definitely agree on one thing, JERRY NEEDS TO BE FIRED as GM. But unfortunately he'll never fire himself. Like I've said many times, I'm not defending Jerry but perceptions about other teams and their operations may not always be reality.

 

[DarkVader33]

Which is exactly what I've been saying.

Well then at least we agree!

 

[DarkVader33]

The draft IS our problem. Taking players such as Schooner, Kelvin, Jaylon, Trysten, Mazi, that is the root of our problems.

All team make mistakes. Unfortunately we've been making more the last ~5 years or so.

 

[kskboys]

What did I say wrong? No one here knows how GMs actually operate or do their jobs. We can only go by results. And results don't alway tell the whole story. Take for instance Wolf from the packers. He was the best at it for a while and then, I don't know if it was bad luck or not, but he could no longer do anything right. And he isn't the only one. However, we can definitely agree on one thing, JERRY NEEDS TO BE FIRED as GM. But unfortunately he'll never fire himself. Like I've said many times, I'm not defending Jerry but perceptions about other teams and their operations may not always be reality.

How GMs do their job is mostly common knowledge.

 

[kskboys]

What did I say wrong? No one here knows how GMs actually operate or do their jobs. We can only go by results. And results don't alway tell the whole story. Take for instance Wolf from the packers. He was the best at it for a while and then, I don't know if it was bad luck or not, but he could no longer do anything right. And he isn't the only one. However, we can definitely agree on one thing, JERRY NEEDS TO BE FIRED as GM. But unfortunately he'll never fire himself. Like I've said many times, I'm not defending Jerry but perceptions about other teams and their operations may not always be reality.

The guy making blanket comments accuses others of doing so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DarkVader33]

The guy making blanket comments accuses others of doing so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was bringing up Wolf a blanket statement? I’m pretty sure that was rather specific.

 

[Diehardblues]

I used to love to breakdown film, I took pride in finding little flaws and tells that would help us beat better teams...miss that....

Sounds like your reflection is similar to much of our fanbase. You realize what our dysfunctional ownership has become, the impacts and effects that’s made but have basically acknowledged there’s nothing you can do to change that. Have decided for your entertainment value want to simply root the team on each game looking the other way.

I know many fans like that. They also are knowledgeable of football while not having your astute background in coaching. But they don’t spend time on an anonymous fan forum on the internet arguing against fans who want to provide their take on whats preventing their team from more success.

And you don’t actually argue specifics that some of these long time diehard fans present like Bob , KS and others for example . All great fans by the way. Just fed up with this organization pleading for change while providing their take on how to improve .

I really think you could provide your expertise on how this team could improve while chiming in on others instead of shooting down those who provide their criteria .

It’s not like you actually support what our owners are doing and how they run Cowboys Football. You just choose to approach your fandom in a different way. Which is fine . Just not sure it’s productive in a forum setting as such.

Otherwise it comes off like trolling anyone who provides critical thinking. And that’s what defines some homers here as they feel it’s their duty to defend against any criticism.

I’m a Cowboys homer too. I just complain all the way to the bank. And I’ll also provide any accolades when it applies. I still root us on every Sunday hoping we’ll overcome the dysfunctional organization. And will defend our franchise against outsiders and opposing fans.

But fellow Cowboys fans who are frustrated shouldn’t be on our hit list. Instead they need compassionate fellowship. And this place can provide that. I think that’s what these forums has given me the most. A place where I’ve felt others have similar concerns and disappointment.

I suppose these forums serve everyone differently. And we all get frustrated at some of these fellow fans continued rhetoric , etc.
I’ve found there’s ample threads and subjects for all kinds of subjects and discussions. Or just ignore.

I’ve often used as an analogy of fandoms like attending a game . I’ve sat by fellow fans that conduct themselves much differently. And I’d never invite them into my home to watch a game. I’d like to think you’re one of those fans I’d welcome into my home . Good luck Coach!!

 

[TwentyOne]

Jerry has admitted publicly that he does not. Not sure where you got the bolded from, as it's not accurate, and he has said so himself.

"He" stands for GM duties in general. I did not refer to JJ with it.

Of course as i already wrote JJ doesnt do GM business. He just gave himself the title.

And he (now i mean JJ) doesnt need to tell me what he does or not. I dont care and i will not believe him anyways.

And if he would tell me he does something a real GM usually does?! I dont care also. Just because

a) i dont believe him
b) i dout he would know what he is actually talking about
c) if he did that work it would be on a such low level that it would be better for the franchises sake he wouldnt have.


But anyways...


GO JONESES!!!!

 

[Diehardblues]

What did I say wrong? No one here knows how GMs actually operate or do their jobs. We can only go by results. And results don't alway tell the whole story. Take for instance Wolf from the packers. He was the best at it for a while and then, I don't know if it was bad luck or not, but he could no longer do anything right. And he isn't the only one. However, we can definitely agree on one thing, JERRY NEEDS TO BE FIRED as GM. But unfortunately he'll never fire himself. Like I've said many times, I'm not defending Jerry but perceptions about other teams and their operations may not always be reality.

That’s true. We can let results be our guide. And we’ve seen many of these greater HC’s & GM’s results rise and fall.

Those fluctuations are generally determined by the choices and decisions they make. Which usually revolve around personnel.

That’s how fortunes turn in the NFL and most sports organizations at this level. Great leadership has an eye for talent. When that eye of judgement slips or miscues their fortunes can turn.

 

[kskboys]

Was bringing up Wolf a blanket statement? I’m pretty sure that was rather specific.

Your entire post was mostly blanket comments. In fact, that's what most posts consist of. I don't get what the point is of throwing the comment "blanket comments" at someone specifically. Are you just trying to get people's goat? I mean, what is the point of that?