Trying isn't good enough

Yeah. Who wouldn’t want to pay a guy $35-$40 million per year when you can make him play for you for $27M and change? Lol. Respectfully, this post is an emotional post not rooted in facts.

The Cowboys are NOT GOING TO PAY PICKENS $35-$40 million per year when they can get him for much less AND keep the risk on loss on Pickens. Thats just smart business on behalf of the Cowboys.
I guess you would rather defend the status quo than try something different and win SBs. The way the game works now, and has worked for a long time, is that you pay out the nose for a 1-3 year window to win it all. Then you blow it up because it can't be sustained. Rebuild and do it again in 5 years.
 
Let’s hold off on all the complaints as if the offseason is already over. There’s still more time ahead than has passed so far, with five months until game one.

Let’s revisit this two weeks before the season starts, when training camp and preseason games give us a clearer picture of whether enough players were brought in to fill the gaps.

That’s when we can actually have the facts to discuss if the job wasn’t done well. Right now, it’s been the same points repeated for six weeks, even though negotiations, the draft, and free agency moves are still in progress.

Let’s talk about it when it’s real—because at the moment, the redundancy is just old and tiresome.
Respectfully, I rebuff your call for civility and the cessation of complaints. It's the only therapy we have!

30 years is a long time to be long-suffering. The con is up.
 
I guess you would rather defend the status quo than try something different and win SBs. The way the game works now, and has worked for a long time, is that you pay out the nose for a 1-3 year window to win it all. Then you blow it up because it can't be sustained. Rebuild and do it again in 5 years.
Landry had the 3 year window for the development of a promising player...and that was when you could truly have guys sit and watch for years. In today's game..the entire roster has to contribute...and then some. There's no room for wasted seasons and dead weight. You're either building or bloodletting...or both. But "hovering around the rim" ain't gonna get 'er dun.
 
Before this very important off-season began, our owner/GM stated once again publicly that they were willing to “break the bank” to add talent to this roster. Halfway through the 2026 off-season that has not happened.

And both JJ and SJ continue to tell the fan base they “tried” to acquire a top edge rusher and FA LB but the prices were “too high”. (Side note: NFL truth - The best talent out there is not coming here for less money. You have to overpay. Sorry sad truth)

So…as fans…are we now supposed to give our FO “credit” just for trying to sign or trade for a big impact player? But the price was too high? We didn’t get it done, but “we tried”? Seems to me in professional sports credit is earned when you do it, not when you simply try.

That’s especially true IMO with a front office that does a ton of talking but rarely back it up. And the only way we heard they tried so hard is they tell us all the time…without getting it done.

I think it’s fair for Cowboys fans to say at this point, “Don’t tell us what you’re planning or hoping to do. Show us what you've done.” Otherwise stop talking. Talk when it’s done.

This FO should not get the benefit of the doubt with the track record they have given us for decades.
Well, I think we have different level of fans .

Ole diehards like ourselves our dysfunctional ownership certainly aren’t on the same page or has similar expectations or more importantly same goals.

Other less engaged fans or perhaps younger more fringe type and casual fans take it as it comes . If we have some success ,fine, if not no big deal.

I think even many of us ole diehards have become less engaged and apathetic .

This mom & pop operation has obviously proven performing at the level we all strive for isn’t necessary.

Too bad our checks aren’t in the mail and we might could lower our expectations as well laughing all the way to the bank.
 
Before this very important off-season began, our owner/GM stated once again publicly that they were willing to “break the bank” to add talent to this roster. Halfway through the 2026 off-season that has not happened.

And both JJ and SJ continue to tell the fan base they “tried” to acquire a top edge rusher and FA LB but the prices were “too high”. (Side note: NFL truth - The best talent out there is not coming here for less money. You have to overpay. Sorry sad truth)

So…as fans…are we now supposed to give our FO “credit” just for trying to sign or trade for a big impact player? But the price was too high? We didn’t get it done, but “we tried”? Seems to me in professional sports credit is earned when you do it, not when you simply try.

That’s especially true IMO with a front office that does a ton of talking but rarely back it up. And the only way we heard they tried so hard is they tell us all the time…without getting it done.

I think it’s fair for Cowboys fans to say at this point, “Don’t tell us what you’re planning or hoping to do. Show us what you've done.” Otherwise stop talking. Talk when it’s done.

This FO should not get the benefit of the doubt with the track record they have given us for decades.
No significant FA was added.
 
Before this very important off-season began, our owner/GM stated once again publicly that they were willing to “break the bank” to add talent to this roster. Halfway through the 2026 off-season that has not happened.

And both JJ and SJ continue to tell the fan base they “tried” to acquire a top edge rusher and FA LB but the prices were “too high”. (Side note: NFL truth - The best talent out there is not coming here for less money. You have to overpay. Sorry sad truth)

So…as fans…are we now supposed to give our FO “credit” just for trying to sign or trade for a big impact player? But the price was too high? We didn’t get it done, but “we tried”? Seems to me in professional sports credit is earned when you do it, not when you simply try.

That’s especially true IMO with a front office that does a ton of talking but rarely back it up. And the only way we heard they tried so hard is they tell us all the time…without getting it done.

I think it’s fair for Cowboys fans to say at this point, “Don’t tell us what you’re planning or hoping to do. Show us what you've done.” Otherwise stop talking. Talk when it’s done.

This FO should not get the benefit of the doubt with the track record they have given us for decades.
I have to respectfully disagree on this one.

No only am I going to give them credit for trying, I’m also going to give them credit for not overpaying.

They made a very solid, competitive offer to the Raiders for Maxx Crosby. They were outbid by Baltimore’s offer of two 1st round picks.

I give them credit for trying, and credit for showing responsible restraint and not overpaying. Rashan Gary was their Plan B, and when the deal was made with Baltimore, they made the trade with Green Bay.

They also made competitive offers for linebackers Walker and Dean. Las Vegas was flush with cap room and overpaid for both. I’m glad that Dallas didn’t.

I can appreciate some people being frustrated and disappointed, but in the case of this year, I’m choosing to give them credit for not being reckless instead of criticizing them.
 
Yeah. Who wouldn’t want to pay a guy $35-$40 million per year when you can make him play for you for $27M and change? Lol. Respectfully, this post is an emotional post not rooted in facts.

The Cowboys are NOT GOING TO PAY PICKENS $35-$40 million per year when they can get him for much less AND keep the risk on loss on Pickens. Thats just smart business on behalf of the Cowboys.
Short term financially it’s brilliant. But, every player in the NFL is aware that Jerry Jones will go with the short term advantage versus long term prudent decisions. That’s how you can mange to go many decades without ultimate success on the field.

I wonder if Dean’s agent shared that with him when he was choosing which offer to accept? Guys not nearly as good as George Pickens can assume Jerry won’t treat them better regardless of their comparative value.
 
They haven't tried to win anything in many many years. Jerry gave up trying to win and just wants to keep them relevant and Stephen doesn't seem like he ever cared anyway.
 
I have to respectfully disagree on this one.

No only am I going to give them credit for trying, I’m also going to give them credit for not overpaying.

They made a very solid, competitive offer to the Raiders for Maxx Crosby. They were outbid by Baltimore’s offer of two 1st round picks.

I give them credit for trying, and credit for showing responsible restraint and not overpaying. Rashan Gary was their Plan B, and when the deal was made with Baltimore, they made the trade with Green Bay.

They also made competitive offers for linebackers Walker and Dean. Las Vegas was flush with cap room and overpaid for both. I’m glad that Dallas didn’t.

I can appreciate some people being frustrated and disappointed, but in the case of this year, I’m choosing to give them credit for not being reckless instead of criticizing them.
As always my friend, I respect your opinion as well.

Where I disagree with you is this: Unfortunately in the NFL (and most major pro sports) you have to overpay to get some of the very talent you need to compete for a championship. I’m not talking about overpaying everyone. Just a guy here and there.

We won our last SB in 1995 by overpaying to acquire the services of Deion Sanders. (I know the financial landscape was different then) And we’ve heard Stephen was really upset about that. But that overpay was exactly what we needed. And here we are 31 years later without a championship since.

Regarding competitive offers to Walker and Dean and in the trade offer for Crosby - I’m not saying that isn’t true, but all I’ve ever seen about that is what SJ and JJ are saying on that. Do we have verification from anyone else? Like agents? Someone outside our organization?

And if those offers were supposedly that “close” to landing one of those guys, would adding another million be untenable? If you’re close, sometimes you do have to “bust the budget”.

Obviously there’s no guarantee if we overpay someone we will win big. But not ever doing it to me means we’re going to keep getting what we’ve been getting. We need to take some chances IMO.

The bottom line is we want the same thing - the Cowboys to start winning playoff games again. I know we agree 100% on that!
 
Short term financially it’s brilliant. But, every player in the NFL is aware that Jerry Jones will go with the short term advantage versus long term prudent decisions. That’s how you can mange to go many decades without ultimate success on the field.

I wonder if Dean’s agent shared that with him when he was choosing which offer to accept? Guys not nearly as good as George Pickens can assume Jerry won’t treat them better regardless of their comparative value.
Jerry has a propensity to pay top dollar for top tier Cowboys, and I would argue to actually overpay. The Cowboys are playing this smart.

I doubt the Cowboys trust Pickens if he “gets paid”. Regardless, it benefits the Cowboys to tag Pickens.

Pickens always has the right and option to negotiate with the Cowboys on a long term deal, or to speak with other teams and come back to the Cowboys with a possible trade opportunity.

It doesn’t sound like Pickens has done that. The ball is in Pickens’ court. I believe the Cowboys are comfortable with Pickens playing on the tag.
 
As always my friend, I respect your opinion as well.

Where I disagree with you is this: Unfortunately in the NFL (and most major pro sports) you have to overpay to get some of the very talent you need to compete for a championship. I’m not talking about overpaying everyone. Just a guy here and there.

We won our last SB in 1995 by overpaying to acquire the services of Deion Sanders. (I know the financial landscape was different then) And we’ve heard Stephen was really upset about that. But that overpay was exactly what we needed. And here we are 31 years later without a championship since.

Regarding competitive offers to Walker and Dean and in the trade offer for Crosby - I’m not saying that isn’t true, but all I’ve ever seen about that is what SJ and JJ are saying on that. Do we have verification from anyone else? Like agents? Someone outside our organization?

And if those offers were supposedly that “close” to landing one of those guys, would adding another million be untenable? If you’re close, sometimes you do have to “bust the budget”.

Obviously there’s no guarantee if we overpay someone we will win big. But not ever doing it to me means we’re going to keep getting what we’ve been getting. We need to take some chances IMO.

The bottom line is we want the same thing - the Cowboys to start winning playoff games again. I know we agree 100% on that!
No one ever says you "overpaid" if you get good healthy talent in return. So, if the Cowboys are hyper-focused on "deals" instead of identifying good/great players BEFORE other teams get them...that's the issue.
 
As always my friend, I respect your opinion as well.

Where I disagree with you is this: Unfortunately in the NFL (and most major pro sports) you have to overpay to get some of the very talent you need to compete for a championship. I’m not talking about overpaying everyone. Just a guy here and there.

We won our last SB in 1995 by overpaying to acquire the services of Deion Sanders. (I know the financial landscape was different then) And we’ve heard Stephen was really upset about that. But that overpay was exactly what we needed. And here we are 31 years later without a championship since.

Regarding competitive offers to Walker and Dean and in the trade offer for Crosby - I’m not saying that isn’t true, but all I’ve ever seen about that is what SJ and JJ are saying on that. Do we have verification from anyone else? Like agents? Someone outside our organization?
Here are specific details on the 3 offers that the Cowboys made for Maxx Crosby.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...s-made-three-different-offers-for-maxx-crosby

And if those offers were supposedly that “close” to landing one of those guys, would adding another million be untenable? If you’re close, sometimes you do have to “bust the budget”.

Obviously there’s no guarantee if we overpay someone we will win big. But not ever doing it to me means we’re going to keep getting what we’ve been getting. We need to take some chances IMO.
Walker got a contract paying him $13.5 million a year and Dean’s averages $12 million a year. Not only am I glad the Cowboys didn’t exceed those offers, I’m glad someone else overpaid.

Dean in particular was someone I actively hoped they wouldn’t sign. Injured far too often to invest big money in.

The bottom line is we want the same thing - the Cowboys to start winning playoff games again. I know we agree 100% on that!
Absolutely! But I appreciate when they show some restraint rather then the Joey Galloway/ Roy Williams type of deals.
 
Jerry has a propensity to pay top dollar for top tier Cowboys, and I would argue to actually overpay. The Cowboys are playing this smart.

I doubt the Cowboys trust Pickens if he “gets paid”. Regardless, it benefits the Cowboys to tag Pickens.

Pickens always has the right and option to negotiate with the Cowboys on a long term deal, or to speak with other teams and come back to the Cowboys with a possible trade opportunity.

It doesn’t sound like Pickens has done that. The ball is in Pickens’ court. I believe the Cowboys are comfortable with Pickens playing on the tag.
The bigger issue is players seeing Pickens’ situation and that, unlike George Pickens, have a choice to play for the Cowboys or not. Now and in the future. Does anyone ever consider that Jerry’s issues signing top free agents is as much players not wanting anything to do with the Cowboys as it is just the offer? Fans of every team believe their team is a most desired destination. Some are more desirable than others. The Cowboys don’t seem to be less than desirable.

If the Cowboys “are comfortable with Pickens playing on the tag” they must be comfortable with how Pickens handles the situation going forward. Can’t have it both ways. They must also be comfortable paying Pickens less than he could make this season if not for the franchise tag. They must also be comfortable with every NFLPA certified player agent knowing they’re taking advantage of the franchise tag in deference to Pickens. It’s all good.

All good until CeeDee drops a pass in the end zone in a three point loss and Pickens thinks has was open on the play.
 
This is a FO that celebrates almost making the playoffs. What can you really expect?
If the team doesn't overachieve in a big way, we are not winning.
 
It’s not just that they tried—it wasn’t a token effort to appease fans. They were aggressive, and they lost. But with five months before game one and the draft coming up, things will pick up. Most teams have been in a holding pattern on free agents, prepping for the draft. For now, it’s good enough—what else can they do? It’s not their fault Dean didn’t want to face the Eagles twice a year, so he took what seemed like a slightly lesser deal with the Raiders despite probably getting a better offer from them, according to rumors. They missed out on Max Crosby because the Ravens won and then returned him. If the Ravens hadn’t overpaid, the Cowboys would have Crosby right now, and I doubt they’d have sent him back, even though they claim they might have.

It’s not their fault,

they’ve made valid offers for Brooks and even tried to pry away a linebacker from Pittsburgh in Queen, though I don’t know much about him.

They’ve made plenty of calls, and while it’s true they haven’t landed anything yet, it’s not fair to judge them as just trying to appease fans by saying they tried and failed. Their offers have been solid, but other teams either want more or are asking too much. You can’t overpay just to satisfy the fan base—that’s not how you run a business. This isn’t about spin; they went out aggressively with fair offers, but so far nothing has come through.

I remember when this fan base kept telling Jerry to pick up the phone, be aggressive, make the calls, send the emails, and try to make deals,don’t just like our guys or settle for budget players.

They’ve been doing this for two offseasons now. It’s like spending all day at the lake trying to hook that one big bass—no luck yet, but at any moment they might reel in four big ones, gear up for the season, and still have the same repetitive posts from the same crowd acting like the front office isn't making real attempts.

Meanwhile, the rest of the league hasn’t made many moves in the past three weeks, with plenty of free agents and trade options still available. I’m just trying to figure out the point of these posts when nothing in the NFL is really happening right now because teams are busy prepping their draft boards. Over the last three weeks, which teams have actually made significant changes, signed notable free agents, or pulled off big trades? From what I’ve seen, it’s been pretty quiet.

Yes, Bob, and to everyone who keeps saying most fan bases are fine with the effort—no, we’re not. We see the effort, but that just means they’ll keep trying this offseason, like they did last offseason and during the season when they traded for Corning Williams. They’ve been putting in more work, which means they could fill these holes at any moment. If they don’t, then let’s talk about it the week leading into game one, and then it’s a new story. Right now, it’s not, it’s the same repetitive post we’ve been seeing for a month or more.

You’re just not giving it enough time, IMHO.3

Let me guess you're going to tell me that you shouldn't be patient, and they deserve any credit because of what's happened the last 30 years that is also the most redundant narrative around here to respond that way that it's their fault how you feel and how redundant you're being..umm ok
Wow. The Jerry Defense League (JDL for short) is slipping. Took all the way to post #7 for the reflex to kick in. Lol.
 
Yeah. Who wouldn’t want to pay a guy $35-$40 million per year when you can make him play for you for $27M and change? Lol. Respectfully, this post is an emotional post not rooted in facts.

The Cowboys are NOT GOING TO PAY PICKENS $35-$40 million per year when they can get him for much less AND keep the risk on loss on Pickens. Thats just smart business on behalf of the Cowboys.
You missed the entire point of this thread.
 
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I’m a little surprised that you just assume the media rumors weee true when they were all just pure speculation.

Brooks? Wueen?

You missed the entire point of this thread.
he always does
 
“It’s not their fault.”
Jerry has an army of fans who see themselves consoling him and defending him from the slings and arrows of a hurtful world.

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