Two additional reported UFL workouts today for the Cowboys

[_sturt_]

It's pretty common knowledge that Guyton will be the left tackle. There is no argument.

My friend, I'm not sure who sold you on this idea that the more authoritarian your words, the more persuasive they are... but they misled you.

This just in from planet earth: Chuma Edoga took every first-team LT rep in the spring.

Every.

Add that to what I already said that Guyton was widely touted as a first rounder but that there were legitimate questions how soon he'd be ready to be a team's #1 LT... and your assertion, though well-intended and optimistic, is not balanced. There not only is argument, there's always been argument. This isn't a matter of fan base vote.

 

[chasecooley5308]

HA! and yall thought we werent all in...Jokes on yall

 

[_sturt_]

HA! and yall thought we werent all in...Jokes on yall

To your point, it is going to be pretty disappointing to me if all they do with the remaining open roster slots is backfill with camp bodies. I'm a show-me kinda guy who, at the same time, grants the benefit of a doubt until you give me no other option but to conclude, you've shown me I shouldn't.

If they don't bring in a legit 1-tech, that's showing me I shouldn't... because, truly, you've got no one there who has ever even been yet considered "adequate" on an NFL field. Even if Mazi makes the big jump everyone hopes he can, there's still a lot of snaps that the #2 guy will be taking. Right now, your #2 guy is either a 7th round rookie (!) or a 32 (!) yr old who we picked up last last season weeks after he'd been cut from SEA's practice squad.

Now c'mon. You can't be serious. There's just got to be a more legit vet addition there, either through FA or trade before the season, and better, before Oxnard. At least that.

 

[plasticman]

Scouring the countryside for LB's is beginning to make me a little nervous. Will Overshown be ready to play an impactful role?

 

[rambo2]

My friend, I'm not sure who sold you on this idea that the more authoritarian your words, the more persuasive they are... but they misled you.

This just in from planet earth: Chuma Edoga took every first-team LT rep in the spring.

Every.

Add that to what I already said that Guyton was widely touted as a first rounder but that there were legitimate questions how soon he'd be ready to be a team's #1 LT... and your assertion, though well-intended and optimistic, is not balanced. There not only is argument, there's always been argument. This isn't a matter of fan base vote.

Watch what happens. Shout back at me in week 1.

 

[_sturt_]

Watch what happens. Shout back at me in week 1.

You don't have to be persuasive, but at least don't be obtuse by asserting something I didn't say... in this case, this isn't about prediction, this is about where things stand pre-training camp.

Make no mistake, every Cowboy fan would love nothing more than to see the 1st round pick exceed expectations so much so that he's the starter in CLE.

I don't predict what will happen. Maybe that does. If it does, great. But it's nothing for you to put up your peacock feathers about... you know nothing more than the rest of us do, and have no more influence on any of that than the rest of us do. Similarly, if it does not, that doesn't mean I had some great insight... because, again... I didn't say what will happen. I've only said what is. Is. Right here. Right now.

So, as we sit here today, yes, you're not debunking anything I've said (... to your credit actually...) because what I've said is accurate (... and it's good to see you're not just making something up to save face, as some may do on occasion around here).

And circling back to where I began... a lot of good will happen if they acquire an adequate vet LT. If you prefer, look at it as someone to fight Chuma for a roster spot. That's fine. And then, let's go to Oxnard and let the best LT emerge for week 1, regardless.

 

[blueblood70]

Top priority: Sign a legit LT whose presence allows your 2024 FRP to earn his way into the starting position.

2nd priority: Sign a legit 1-Tech who effectively replaces Hankins. (Don't rely on a 7th rounder to be that.)

3rd priority: Replace, to some degree, Dante' Fowler.

If you're expecting them to find a legit starting left tackle from that league, so let's see what the young players can do I mean we literally have a whole bunch to choose from and if not then you'll have to fall back on edoga but Tyler Smith was not even supposed to be the left tackle his rookie year he was supposed to be the left guard and they moved him the left tackle he did pretty well he wasn't perfect but he got better as the season went on let's let the players we brought in on this team have a shot at showing something before you pull the parachute....

I'm sorry he would not have been allowed to slip I realize there's some players that may get signed especially kickers mainly kickers and punters that make it maybe running backs an easy transition but dude seriously you might want to calm down on the expectations from the UFL FA pool..

Those other things are being taken care of you do realize how many cut downs and trades things are going to happen before the season starts I mean a lot of teams are going to be making decisions and letting players go so we need to let the players they picked up at defensive tackle especially one tech go ahead and work their way through training camp and preseason and see how it works out they have three or four of them on the roster right now...

Dante Fowler was not a key player here easily replaced, Armstrong was a better player, I find it ironic that you all are so overly focused on a couple of these guys we lost and yet washington's trying to use these players as actual starters and yet you're worried about who our backups are when they're using our backups as starters.. So many players are overrated here and then when they leave people realize they don't do much elsewhere because they were allowed to function efficiently because of who we had as starters.. I'm sure they'll do pretty well over there but I promise you this I'm laughing inside right now that they are building their team with a bunch of our rejects that we don't even me here we most of us knew they were leaving but now everyone's worried about who the depth is gonna be when they're right here.. Camp battles will hopefully work this out.

but we have those guys already on the team, you got to let these young players, again, go through training camp & preseason and let's see what they can do and if they need to like they've done in the past they will go out and pick up a guy off the street because there'll be plenty more before the season starts.. And if we have a big glaring hole pop up they will literally go make a trade before the trade deadline, if necessary..

y'all are like so stuck in your mind that these are all big needs, and you don't even know that yet let's watch and see how the team develops...

 

[blueblood70]

You don't have to be persuasive, but at least don't be obtuse by asserting something I didn't say... in this case, this isn't about prediction, this is about where things stand pre-training camp.

Make no mistake, every Cowboy fan would love nothing more than to see the 1st round pick exceed expectations so much so that he's the starter in CLE.

I don't predict what will happen. Maybe that does. If it does, great. But it's nothing for you to put up your peacock feathers about... you know nothing more than the rest of us do, and have no more influence on any of that than the rest of us do. Similarly, if it does not, that doesn't mean I had some great insight... because, again... I didn't say what will happen. I've only said what is. Is. Right here. Right now.

So, as we sit here today, yes, you're not debunking anything I've said (... to your credit actually...) because what I've said is accurate (... and it's good to see you're not just making something up to save face, as some may do on occasion around here).

And circling back to where I began... a lot of good will happen if they acquire an adequate vet LT. If you prefer, look at it as someone to fight Chuma for a roster spot. That's fine. And then, let's go to Oxnard and let the best LT emerge for week 1, regardless.

adequate is what we have, yes let camp work it out..jeez if somehow our left tackle position looks like straight up swinging gate Chaz green like you know in preseason where even in camp that they just look like total trash they will make a move until then they've chose this team with very little changes that are gonna happen before camp so they can go through the rest of this offseason and let them battle it out let the chips fall where they may and if there's something that's absolutely necessary the Cowboys will go make a move... Besides the fact that a lot of players are being cut at cut downs throughout camp there's some recently there's been some good players cut because of money you know the June 1st cuts there are gonna be players out there that in your own words that will be adequate at left tackle should we need to go that route...

I still don't get it you just think you're just going to go out just grab a left tackle if that was going to be a Major League focus instead of replacing them with younger players with a backup like Edoga we would have never allowed Tyron Smith to walk for $6 million they want to move on they want to go young and we've done this already with Tyler Smith and you're not giving any of the young guys or the guys on this roster a shot before you're already pulling the parachute... I think the wake up call needs to be you guys just think the left tackles are just out there that are better than what we have on the roster already and that's very naive...

 

[_sturt_]

Tyler Smith

Exception, but if you listen to a lotta Cowboys fans, we should just expect every 1st round O-line we ever draft to be pro bowl material.

Maybe it's true. Maybe Will McClay has discovered the secret sauce that, if found in a given college O-lineman, pretty much is an unmistakable sign that that guy's going to be really really good.

Pardon my skepticism, but I'm a researcher by profession, and there's just too many factors and these guys are too young... it is easier for me to believe we're going to see a regression to the NFL mean in this way than it is to believe our people have discovered some secret sauce. We have highly competent people, but so do the other teams... it's difficult to gain any significant advantage anymore... it's not like when Tex Schramm and Gil Brandt recognized the value of using computers to assist you.

We are due for disappointment. Like anyone else, I hope for the best. But unlike a lot, I'm prepared for, well, not the worst, but something decidedly less than the best.

(Apologies... you wrote a lot of substantive other things, it appears, but unfortunately, my time won't allow me to react to the rest.)

 

[JoeKing]

A RB that can supplant Deuce on the roster, please.

 

[Established1971]

hopefully they try a rb too. There is still the championship game this weekend so those are 2 full rosters of potential tryouts there

 

[blueblood70]

Exception, but if you listen to a lotta Cowboys fans, we should just expect every 1st round O-line we ever draft to be pro bowl material.

Maybe it's true. Maybe Will McClay has discovered the secret sauce that, if found in a given college O-lineman, pretty much is an unmistakable sign that that guy's going to be really really good.

Pardon my skepticism, but I'm a researcher by profession, and there's just too many factors and these guys are too young... it is easier for me to believe we're going to see a regression to the NFL mean in this way than it is to believe our people have discovered some secret sauce. We have highly competent people, but so do the other teams... it's difficult to gain any significant advantage anymore... it's not like when Tex Schramm and Gil Brandt recognized the value of using computers to assist you.

We are due for disappointment. Like anyone else, I hope for the best. But unlike a lot, I'm prepared for, well, not the worst, but something decidedly less than the best.

(Apologies... you wrote a lot of substantive other things, it appears, but unfortunately, my time won't allow me to react to the rest.)

I'm saying it could be both ways... we find gems in the draft all the time it doesn't have to be in the first round and yes Tyler Smith is very good and maybe Guyton will be the same....

we don't know but I say give the guy a chance before we're already dropping parachutes and saying that none of it is going to work....

And also like I said the USFL is not going to be a new resource to find a starting left tackle unless you're just following the dumb luck so we're already signed up for what we have and they can make decisions later by whatever is cut or left or making a trade if it looks terrible in the preseason...

So I guess what I'm saying in short let's give this a chance let's see what actual training camp 7 on 7 Lebanon 11 and some scrimmages along with the preseason games..

If it looks awful the Cowboys will have options at either making a trade or finding something available that in cut downs...