Two flat-out lies Troy Aikman told last night

Nav22

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If you do a frame by frame breakdown its possible the ball was out first, but we are talking about a fraction of a second here. From both the broadcast and the all 22 I'm not seeing any definitive evidence that the ball was out of his hand. Even if it was you're talking such a bang bang play that its going to be impossible for the officials to see that with the human eye.
Hey, that's fine!

I don't disagree that it was "close".

My issue is that the analyst, Troy Aikman in this case, totally dismissed it as a legal play and moved on. "Nothing to see here!"

He didn't even acknowledge that it was "close" or took the time to check if the ball was in the air!!!!! WHICH IT LIKELY WAS!!!
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

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CeeDee PI.

Do you disagree that it should've been PI? Explain why, if so.
I think it should’ve probably been passing interference . But there’s no replay for it. I was watching Cooper Rush at the time.. My point is I don’t think it would have been a completed pass. I can’t help with the refs do . I stopped worrying about it when they have part-time referees, with no accountability. I go onto the next play. Just like we missed the face mask.
 

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I think it should’ve probably been passing interference . But there’s no replay for it. I was watching Cooper Rush at the time.. My point is I don’t think it would have been a completed pass. I can’t help with the refs do . I stopped worrying about it when they have part-time referees, with no accountability. I go onto the next play. Just like we missed the face mask.
Okay, so you agree with me.

You just have lower standards for the multi-millionaires who are paid to analyze the game live than I do.
 

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Hey, that's fine!

I don't disagree that it was "close".

My issue is that the analyst, Troy Aikman in this case, totally dismissed it as a legal play and moved on. "Nothing to see here!"

He didn't even acknowledge that it was "close" or took the time to check if the ball was in the air!!!!! WHICH IT LIKELY WAS!!!
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
I can’t stand Troy Aikman in the booth. I think you tried to be so biased that he is worse than the tight end that I can’t stand. That Brady took over for. I like Brady out there.
 

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LMAOOOOOOO!!!!

1) CeeDee is bracing for contact in that pic. He got laid out. Why not show a still of him actually being hit? Well, I know why you didn't.

2) That last pic of Chase Brown kills your entire argument. Zoom in on that foot and tell me there is ZERO CHANCE that his heel is slightly on the white line.
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
1) I dont think thats accurate. The All-22 film shows both players have arms extended making contact before the actual hit happens. Contact seems to be pretty clearly made prior to the throw happening. If not its still such a small difference it cant be expected to be called by the officials.

The issues are on that play are 1) Rush should have went to the wheel route. 2) I could see validation in questioning the INT since it hit the ground. 3) Shouldnt Chase have gotten a flag after jumping in the salvation army kettle or did they change the prop rule?
 

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Okay, so you agree with me.

You just have lower standards for the multi-millionaires who are paid to analyze the game live than I do.
Because I don’t listen to them, told you I put the stereo on. I don’t need to have the game explained.
 

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Cooper screwed up. Ferguson was going to be open in the corner as the chum with Lamb and the DBs was going to set him free.
 

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I knew Troy disliked Jerry, but MAN!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

1) Cooper Rush's INT.

CeeDee Lamb gets blasted (unintentionally) with the ball in the air, by a DB who happened to be chasing a different receiver at the time. It was an accidental collision, but still a collision.

Troy said it was perfectly legal and not a penalty!
:lmao2:

Rules experts... show me where in the rulebook it states that a DB can blast a WR with the ball in the air, SO LONG AS he was chasing a different receiver at the time.

Something tells me this "rule" has never existed and is something Troy simply made up, in order to legitimize the bogus INT he just witnessed.

2) Chase Brown's tightrope walk TD.

The call on the field was that he stepped out of bounds before scoring. I've seen the replays from every single angle. I've studied screenshots from every angle.

There is NO UNIVERSE in which there was anything conclusive to overturn the call on the field. It was insanely close.

Troy, Joe Buck and the "rules expert" then collectively decided to lie to the nation and pretend it was OBVIOUSLY a TD and certainly conclusive!
:lmao2:

Naturally, the refs agreed and gave Cincy the TD. Complete and utter horse****.
Why are you so triggered by it?
 

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LMAOOOOOOO!!!!

1) CeeDee is bracing for contact in that pic. He got laid out. Why not show a still of him actually being hit? Well, I know why you didn't.

2) That last pic of Chase Brown kills your entire argument. Zoom in on that foot and tell me there is ZERO CHANCE that his heel is slightly on the white line.
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
LOL, zoom in and it’s pretty clear he is in.

And the video seems to disprove your other claim as contact is made before the pass.

Other than that, you nailed this.
 

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LOL, zoom in and it’s pretty clear he is in.

And the video seems to disprove your other claim as contact is made before the pass.

Other than that, you nailed this.
Yeah, you're lying or you're blind.

Zoom in on that last pic and look at Brown's heel.

If you think that's "indisputably inbounds" you need a new hobby.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 

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I knew Troy disliked Jerry, but MAN!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

1) Cooper Rush's INT.

CeeDee Lamb gets blasted (unintentionally) with the ball in the air, by a DB who happened to be chasing a different receiver at the time. It was an accidental collision, but still a collision.

Troy said it was perfectly legal and not a penalty!
:lmao2:

Rules experts... show me where in the rulebook it states that a DB can blast a WR with the ball in the air, SO LONG AS he was chasing a different receiver at the time.

Something tells me this "rule" has never existed and is something Troy simply made up, in order to legitimize the bogus INT he just witnessed.

2) Chase Brown's tightrope walk TD.

The call on the field was that he stepped out of bounds before scoring. I've seen the replays from every single angle. I've studied screenshots from every angle.

There is NO UNIVERSE in which there was anything conclusive to overturn the call on the field. It was insanely close.

Troy, Joe Buck and the "rules expert" then collectively decided to lie to the nation and pretend it was OBVIOUSLY a TD and certainly conclusive!
:lmao2:

Naturally, the refs agreed and gave Cincy the TD. Complete and utter horse****.
The Chase Brown TD was clearly a TD. He was not out of bounds.
 

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You're wrong in both instances.

You can contact a WR within 5 yards of the LOS. "Per the NFL rulebook, defenders may only make contact with a receiver within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage."

And Chase was clearly inbounds, you could see grass between his shoe and the out of bounds line.

You could argue that the defender used the ground to secure the INT. That seemed likely and should have been looked at closer IMO.
You're wrong.

Yes, you can contact a WR within 5 yards from the line of scrimmage, BUT YOU CAN NOT THROW, PUSH OR HOLD HIM FROM RUNNING HIS ROUTE.
 

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CeeDee Lamb gets blasted (unintentionally) with the ball in the air, by a DB who happened to be chasing a different receiver at the time. It was an accidental collision, but still a collision.

Troy said it was perfectly legal and not a penalty!
I was watching the Manning cast, and all they were doing was blaming the pass. No mention of a penalty. What they did mention, and what I saw as well, the ball was out. That should not be an interception.
 

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If you don't care, then don't comment.

I was annoyed by it so I created this thread. You don't have to join the convo if you don't care about the topic.
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No. You created the thread as an opportunity to suggest the game was not called appropriately. Feigning upset at Aikman’s and Buck’s interpretation of events is disingenuous. I didn’t ‘have to join the convo” and you didn’t have to respond to my comment.
 

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I knew Troy disliked Jerry, but MAN!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

1) Cooper Rush's INT.

CeeDee Lamb gets blasted (unintentionally) with the ball in the air, by a DB who happened to be chasing a different receiver at the time. It was an accidental collision, but still a collision.

Troy said it was perfectly legal and not a penalty!
:lmao2:

Rules experts... show me where in the rulebook it states that a DB can blast a WR with the ball in the air, SO LONG AS he was chasing a different receiver at the time.

Something tells me this "rule" has never existed and is something Troy simply made up, in order to legitimize the bogus INT he just witnessed.

2) Chase Brown's tightrope walk TD.

The call on the field was that he stepped out of bounds before scoring. I've seen the replays from every single angle. I've studied screenshots from every angle.

There is NO UNIVERSE in which there was anything conclusive to overturn the call on the field. It was insanely close.

Troy, Joe Buck and the "rules expert" then collectively decided to lie to the nation and pretend it was OBVIOUSLY a TD and certainly conclusive!
:lmao2:

Naturally, the refs agreed and gave Cincy the TD. Complete and utter horse****.
I believe there are more pressing issues facing us than what Silly Aikman has to say.
Game is over. Kaput.
 
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