Two late 1s

[Sydla]

I can take it much better than I could take years of center play on the level of Phil Costa. People forgets just how bad things were before drafting Frederick.

Looney was more than adequate and we made the playoffs with him at C. So to suggest we have Costa level C play is a reach. They also think McGovern can play some C.

So why not let McGovern get the work in, let Looney hold down the fort in case McGovern can't do it and then look for a C next year?

Why in the world would we invest yet another premium pick on an OL? There are some other decent C options in this draft that will be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

 

[Teague31]

Ruiz and Gross-Matos. Trenches baby!

 

[KingintheNorth]

If we were to do this, I think it means Best Available Corner or Delpit AND Cesar Ruiz.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Gross-Matos.

YG-M could be in that mix as well.

 

[Teague31]

Looney was more than adequate and we made the playoffs with him at C. So to suggest we have Costa level C play is a reach. They also think McGovern can play some C.

So why not let McGovern get the work in, let Looney hold down the fort in case McGovern can't do it and then look for a C next year?

Why in the world would we invest yet another premium pick on an OL? There are some other decent C options in this draft that will be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

I argued this the other day. Think of Ruiz as a domino. You plug him in Start at center. Then if McGovern is as good as people hope starts at LG. Then Williams can be your swing tackle, which most here would say is his best value. That’s upgrading 3 spots with one pick. I certainly won’t argue this defense isn’t Swiss cheese (although I think a coaching staff that isn’t running schemes from 1955 will help a lot of it) but I don’t think Ruiz is a bad pick in a trade down scenario

 

[Jbone100]

Fish has been talking about trading down from 17 then using the draft capital gained from that move down to parlay with 51 and get back into the first round. The trade chart works perfectly for this scenario.

17 down to 27 And Pick up 64..

64+51 gets you 28

Now you have 27 and 28

Who are you selecting with these two picks?

Give me Diggs and Aiyuk or Diggs and Delpit

Mims or Reagor and K. Fulton.

I could also get on board with one of those wideouts along with Okwara and then signing D. Kirkpatrick.

 

[jnday]

Looney was more than adequate and we made the playoffs with him at C. So to suggest we have Costa level C play is a reach. They also think McGovern can play some C.

So why not let McGovern get the work in, let Looney hold down the fort in case McGovern can't do it and then look for a C next year?

Why in the world would we invest yet another premium pick on an OL? There are some other decent C options in this draft that will be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

If McGovern had top talent at the center position, he would not have been moved to guard in college considering that center is a more valuable position that requires more skill. Why invest in the OL with another top pick? Maybe it is because the OL is the biggest group of players on either side of the ball and they are the only group that effects the play if every position group in the field. If this team is going to continue being a running, smash mouth type of offense, top draft picks are needed to excel at what they do. Looney was part of an OL that give up 50+ sacks. This offense is not good enough to give up that many sacks , especially facing better teams. I don’t consider 50+ sacks as being adequate on any level of play. If I had my sat in the identity of this team, it would be designed to run the ball with a smash-mouth OL that is capable of long drives that keeps the defense off of the field. The center position is the heart of that and skipping out on quality at the position will hurt no matter what offense they run.

 

[jnday]

I argued this the other day. Think of Ruiz as a domino. You plug him in Start at center. Then if McGovern is as good as people hope starts at LG. Then Williams can be your swing tackle, which most here would say is his best value. That’s upgrading 3 spots with one pick. I certainly won’t argue this defense isn’t Swiss cheese (although I think a coaching staff that isn’t running schemes from 1955 will help a lot of it) but I don’t think Ruiz is a bad pick in a trade down scenario

Good points. Upgrading three positions with one draft pick is value, no matter what the position.

 

[kumizi]

Throw the trade value chart out for this draft. You're not going to get anywhere near equal value trading down. I'd be surprised if you got more than 3rd for moving from 17 to 27.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Having done a couple mock drafts, 20-40 is the sweet spot this year. Lots of very similarly graded players between the two.

Unfortunately, I think the CB run is going to clean the position group out before pick #51, so we may not luck out there.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

If you could get that trade down, I think you'd take it and run. Not much sense in moving back up to 28. Seems unlikely the one player you could get there would be better value than the two you could get at 51 and 64. BPA at 27, 51 and 64. I think we'd all be pretty happy with any number of names we could plug in.