Two massive questions facing Jerry Jones

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Bleu Star;1225957 said:
Tom Jackson? Is that you? :rolleyes:

Why? Did Tom also realize that a grown man throwing his helmet and pouting seem a little pathetic for an adult?

You'd think the whole team is keeping Little T from shining...:rolleyes:
 

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WV Cowboy;1226201 said:
After his TD, we were still losing the game. The TD itself was not a thing of beauty or worth celebrating.

If he celebrates a TD while we are losing, then he is considered selfish and only about himself.

You used the adjective 'pathetic', If I had to find somewhere to put the adjective 'pathetic', it would be towards posters that find fault where there is none just because it it Owens.

Owens didn't do anything last night deserving of critisism.

I agree.
 

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WV Cowboy;1226201 said:
After his TD, we were still losing the game. The TD itself was not a thing of beauty or worth celebrating.

If he celebrates a TD while we are losing, then he is considered selfish and only about himself.

You used the adjective 'pathetic', If I had to find somewhere to put the adjective 'pathetic', it would be towards posters that find fault where there is none just because it it Owens.

Owens didn't do anything last night deserving of critisism.

Eh, eh. I have had no real problem with TO, so you can't lump me in with a bunch because of his deserved criticism. The guy is part of a team and everyone is losing. Not just TO.

Just listen to the MLK segment of the dopes interview with Irvin to understand why he's pathetic.

Someone here said a couple of days ago that Owens is our Irvin. Not by a friggin' long shot. If there are any questions about that find some game tape of Irvin, especially losses.
 

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WV Cowboy;1226201 said:
After his TD, we were still losing the game. The TD itself was not a thing of beauty or worth celebrating.

If he celebrates a TD while we are losing, then he is considered selfish and only about himself.

You used the adjective 'pathetic', If I had to find somewhere to put the adjective 'pathetic', it would be towards posters that find fault where there is none just because it it Owens.

Owens didn't do anything last night deserving of critisism.

That wont stop some people from blaming him.

At this very moment Norm Hitzges is throwing some criticism his way and I must say, it is very convincing.

But still, it is not his fault the Coaching staff was not creative enough to get him the ball and put him in the best positions last night.
 

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mickgreen58;1226228 said:
That wont stop some people from blaming him.

At this very moment Norm Hitzges is throwing some criticism his way and I must say, it is very convincing.

But still, it is not his fault the Coaching staff was not creative enough to get him the ball and put him in the best positions last night.

Criticism id far from blame. I'd pin most of the blame on the coaching staff.
But taking TO with most of the season behind us as a whole, I]d have to say he's had his ups and downs, but for the most part, he's got mental problems.
 

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vta;1226227 said:
Eh, eh. I have had no real problem with TO,

So why did you call him a little kid, say he was pouting, and say he was pathetic ?

Just listen to the MLK segment of the dopes interview with Irvin to understand why he's pathetic.

I am thinking that he is not the only young African American male that draws inspiration and encouragement from MLK quotes.
 

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Keep Owens and get rid of Mr If I keep this coaching up I just might not make the Hall of Fame.
 

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mickgreen58;1226228 said:
That wont stop some people from blaming him.

At this very moment Norm Hitzges is throwing some criticism his way and I must say, it is very convincing.


And what is Norm saying that is convincing ?
 

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vta;1226238 said:
Criticism id far from blame. I'd pin most of the blame on the coaching staff.
But taking TO with most of the season behind us as a whole, I]d have to say he's had his ups and downs, but for the most part, he's got mental problems.

Me and you agree on this.
 

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1) Do we commit to paying TO guaranteed money over the next two seasons - no matter what - Do we a pay a 33 yr old WR Major CAP eating bucks, a guy who can go south at any moment.

2) Do we bring Parcells back? Some may say Parcells is as much a distraction and problem as TO. If I was the owner, I'd be livid at my stafff after last nite's whipping. We were outchessed all nite. It did NOT appear the Cowboys had a plan of attack whatsoever. Julius runs for 70 and they stopped running? The team looked tired as did the staff. When you only have to work 16 weeks a seasons - that effort is unacceptable.

Maybe JJ dumps both - which honestly , I'd love.

1. No, don't commit, we have him signed another 2 years, so keep him under his current contract.

2. Yes, why switch coaches and philosophy. JJ stopped running because they stopped him, and we were behind. I do think they tried too many long passes in odd situations, like 3rd and long.

adding #3. ~~~~~ fire Zimmer.
 

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WV Cowboy;1226243 said:
So why did you call him a little kid, say he was pouting, and say he was pathetic ?



I am thinking that he is not the only young African American male that draws inspiration and encouragement from MLK quotes.

Because you tried to draw a conclusion about my opinion that I'm unable to give him the benefit of the doubt. I have had is past tense... this seasons follies hasn't been much of problem as far as I've been concerned.

As the season goes on, i.e., after a great streak of games a bad game arises and he acts like a child, it's obvious he can't change. Act more like a teammate than a child who's been wronged.

As for MLK comparisons, let's see:
MLK was shot to death, basically sacrificng himself for the betterment of a segment of society.

TO get's millions to play a game, derides his co workers and complains when things don't go his way.

Yes he similarities are glaring.
 

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vta;1226211 said:
Why? Did Tom also realize that a grown man throwing his helmet and pouting seem a little pathetic for an adult?

You'd think the whole team is keeping Little T from shining...:rolleyes:

You'd think you worked for ESPN. :rolleyes: One fan's disgust of a player that's contributing to the team effort looks like nothing more than pent up hate that surfaces at every opportunity. ESPN loves you for that. You keep them in business.
 

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we have lots of questions for this off season and t.o. and bill may not be the only big ones
what about gurode?
what about colombo
what about crayton
who to draft
what about romo
 

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vta;1226273 said:
Because you tried to draw a conclusion about my opinion that I'm unable to give him the benefit of the doubt. I have had is past tense... this seasons follies hasn't been much of problem as far as I've been concerned.

As the season goes on, i.e., after a great streak of games a bad game arises and he acts like a child, it's obvious he can't change. Act more like a teammate than a child who's been wronged.

As for MLK comparisons, let's see:
MLK was shot to death, basically sacrificng himself for the betterment of a segment of society.

TO get's millions to play a game, derides his co workers and complains when things don't go his way.

Yes he similarities are glaring.

When did he act like a child ?

And I never said TO = MLK

I just said he, like many other young African American males draw inspiration and encouragement from MLK quotes.

He is lifting up MLK as a mentor or someone he admires, he is not comparing himself to MLK nor his situation to MLK's.

Attacking him for every little thing he says or does impacts your credibility. Pick your battles and then maybe your complaints make sense.

But to find fault for everything is hard to buy.

It reveals your opinion as biased.

I realize you don't like TO, like many others on this board, but give him credit where credit is due and then find fault where you see it.

I can respect that.
 

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Bleu Star;1226913 said:
You'd think you worked for ESPN. :rolleyes: One fan's disgust of a player that's contributing to the team effort looks like nothing more than pent up hate that surfaces at every opportunity. ESPN loves you for that. You keep them in business.


To everyone talking about TO a day after our Defense had the third worst performance in Dallas Cowboys History.... "Consider yourselves SUCKED."
 

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ilovejerry;1225852 said:
Ok and bring in WHO ?

:hammer:

With the salary CAP continuing to rise the odds of Dallas finding a quality WR next year is pretty slim. They are pretty much forced to stick with TO and draft a WR to hopefully step in the following year.
 

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I disagree. Dallas was whooped on the OL and DL. The safeties couldn't cover TE's or their third and fourth WR's. Bad angles on tackles, dropped passes etc........
 

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vta;1225844 said:
Keep Parcells, dump Owens.
This kid pouting on the bench after catching a TD was pathetic.
So is having a coach who can't prepare his team for one of the biggest games of the season.

They both need to go after this season imo.
 
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