Two More 1st Rounders Signed *Merged*

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Levi Brown came to terms with the Cardinals and Calvin Johnson with the Lions about an hour ago.

That leaves five 1st rounders still unsigned.

Jamarcus Russell, Raiders
Darelle Revis, Jets
Jon Beason, Panthers
Dwayne Bowe, Chiefs

and the one we all pray lasts a long, long time.

Brady Quinn, Browns
 

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I wonder what the contract is. Bet its a mint.


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It's what you been waiting on
 

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Hostile;1574110 said:
and the one we all pray lasts a long, long time.

Brady Quinn, Browns

I'm not sure I agree with this. I think I would rather have Quinn at QB than Frye this season. There is no question in my mind that not only is Quinn going to fail, but it's going to be ugly.
 

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****** quinn hurry up and sign and win the starting job..........i want quinn to start cause i know he will get his butt lit up in that division....

derek anderson (i believe thats his name) makes me worry. he seems like a gamer, someone who can will his team to more victories than they need to get.

QUINN QUINN QUINN QUINN QUINN
 

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nyc;1574113 said:
I'm not sure I agree with this. I think I would rather have Quinn at QB than Frye this season. There is no question in my mind that not only is Quinn going to fail, but it's going to be ugly.


Ehh.

The last thing I want is Cleveland to have another option to throw into the QB mix. Right now, they only have Frye and Anderson. I don't want them to have another option, should they need.

Ideally, he holds out just long enough to affect his play for the season, but not long enough that Crommel doesn't want to turn to him...
 

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nyc;1574113 said:
I'm not sure I agree with this. I think I would rather have Quinn at QB than Frye this season. There is no question in my mind that not only is Quinn going to fail, but it's going to be ugly.
That's fine, but the longer he holds out, the less prepared he will be once they go to him.
 

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nyc;1574113 said:
I'm not sure I agree with this. I think I would rather have Quinn at QB than Frye this season. There is no question in my mind that not only is Quinn going to fail, but it's going to be ugly.

man, I totaly agree. He is a punk. Was overrated by the media, and he drank the koolaid
 

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Quinn is an idiot for holding out this long. He is NOT going to get top-10 money because he wasn't selected in the top-10. Face it dude, all the hype in the world isn't going to make you a better player.

Quinn was the face of the draft and then he drops all the way down to #22. He needs to resign himself to the fact that hype doesn't equal reality and sign the friggin contract that's being offered. Or not, I don't really care if he never plays a down in the NFL actually.
 

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Wow. Looks like teams finally are signing players before the top pick has been signed. The smart ones are the ones who signed early; they are going to have the upper hand.
 

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Hostile;1574110 said:
Levi Brown came to terms with the Cardinals and Calvin Johnson with the Lions about an hour ago.

That leaves five 1st rounders still unsigned.

Jamarcus Russell, Raiders
Darelle Revis, Jets
Jon Beason, Panthers
Dwayne Bowe, Chiefs

and the one we all pray lasts a long, long time.

Brady Quinn, Browns

To be honest Quinn could have gone to camp on day 1 and I still think he is going to have a rough season if he is named the starter from day 1. A couple of years from now Quinn may show himself as a star in this league but I expect a lot of growing pains on a team that has not been very good.
 

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You know what's going to be interesting?

How we handle our negotiations if Cleveland's pick ends up top 5. We typically like to wait until the last minute. If anything, the top picks seem content to wait until they get the contract they want, despite holding out and missing training camp because they are high draft picks and know that their teams will play them regardless.

We could be facing a similar situation next year.
 

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Vintage;1574138 said:
You know what's going to be interesting?

How we handle our negotiations if Cleveland's pick ends up top 5. We typically like to wait until the last minute. If anything, the top picks seem content to wait until they get the contract they want, despite holding out and missing training camp because they are high draft picks and know that their teams will play them regardless.

We could be facing a similar situation next year.
This is an outstanding point.
 

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Vintage;1574138 said:
You know what's going to be interesting?

How we handle our negotiations if Cleveland's pick ends up top 5. We typically like to wait until the last minute. If anything, the top picks seem content to wait until they get the contract they want, despite holding out and missing training camp because they are high draft picks and know that their teams will play them regardless.

We could be facing a similar situation next year.

I trust Jerry to get his picks signed.
 

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Hostile;1574141 said:
This is an outstanding point.


Yeah, well, every once in a while, I am prone to stumble across something...


:D


But in all seriousness, I've been thinking about this for awhile. Dunno why just now I've decided to post this.

Doomsday101 said:
I trust Jerry to get his picks signed.

I am not saying I would start worrying about it too much, as Jerry usually does get stuff done on time. He got Newman in on time (drafted 5th overall).

But this will be a bit unique if Cleveland ends up with a top 5 pick because we'll also have another 1st rounder to sign and likely extensions to Romo and Newman. A lot of money will be spent and I am sure Jerry will want to move a bit cautious on this (and naturally so).
 

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first quinn shows up with that lapdog on his arm.....i am sorry ladies, but that lindy slinger was one ugly chick, especially for a pretty boy like quinn.....was there no better options at the Notre......so here he was on camera bringing in bad karma with Slinger.....and then he just sunk, deep, deeper, deeper........it was so bad that they had to move him to the green room...not cause Quinn was crying, but cause Slinger was killin the camera. So then our pick comes up and we have Quinn in our sites....but we have Romo and no need for that ND prima donna......so we trade with Cleveland...and just when i think it is all over.....here comes that lapdog again.....

so let this be a lesson for future draftees.....never bring a brown bag special with you to the biggest off field event of your football career.....it will only bring you bad karma

sorry ladies on this board if this came across as shallow and superficial. just speaking my honest opinion........ole Slinger looked like the kind of dog you leave at the pound to get put down.....

on a side note.....when they showed her name on draft day.....i looked at my buds and asked if she had a brother named Gunn...if so that would be totally cool, especially if he was a pitcher or QB.
 

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Vintage;1574138 said:
You know what's going to be interesting?

How we handle our negotiations if Cleveland's pick ends up top 5. We typically like to wait until the last minute. If anything, the top picks seem content to wait until they get the contract they want, despite holding out and missing training camp because they are high draft picks and know that their teams will play them regardless.

We could be facing a similar situation next year.

I don't think it will be a big issue unless whom ever gets picked has a jerk-hole agent. Jerry is a hard-nosed businessman. His only real failing when dealing with contracts is sometimes (when it's a player he really likes) he lets his emotional side make decisions and gives large contracts to players who are late in the careers or whos skills is questionable to the contract they got.
 

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I wonder if Quinn and Ellis have the same agent.. they both seem to be getting horrible advice regarding their worth and career.
 

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Cowboy4ever;1574186 said:
I wonder if Quinn and Ellis have the same agent.. they both seem to be getting horrible advice regarding their worth and career.

Hate to say it but I don't think this advise is from Ellis agent I think it is a bit insecurity on Ellis part. I think the agent is the reason why Ellis is at camp and has been working out.
 

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Hostile;1574110 said:
Levi Brown came to terms with the Cardinals and Calvin Johnson with the Lions about an hour ago.

That leaves five 1st rounders still unsigned.

Jamarcus Russell, Raiders
Darelle Revis, Jets
Jon Beason, Panthers
Dwayne Bowe, Chiefs

and the one we all pray lasts a long, long time.

Brady Quinn, Browns


Ah....we should not think that way.....then again, YES we should! :lmao2:
 

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Lions sign WR Calvin Johnson

August 3, 2007

By NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

The Lions signed wide receiver Calvin Johnson to a six-year contract about 8 a.m. today, and Johnson took the field for the Lions’ 8:35 a.m. practice.

The deal makes Johnson, the second overall pick in this year’s NFL draft, the highest-paid player in Lions history, according to a report on NFL.com.

It has a maximum value of $64 million, and it includes almost $27.2 million guaranteed and another $4.5 million in bonuses Johnson should earn by the middle of the season if he sees even a minimum amount of playing time, according to NFL.com.

Johnson jumped right in with the first team this morning, even during the two-minute drill. He caught a pass over the middle.

“I kind of expected it,” Johnson said. “They brought me out here for that purpose. They didn’t pick me as high as they did for no reason, so I expected to be going in there with the ones.”

Johnson’s arrival coincided with the first practice the Lions have opened to the general public since they moved training camp to their Allen Park headquarters in 2002.

At first, no one noticed Johnson. But then the fans – some wearing new No. 81 jerseys – started cheering. During stretching, offensive lineman Barry Stokes yelled to the crowd: “Can we get a round of applause for Calvin Johnson?”

Though he went second overall, Johnson was widely considered the best player in the draft. He is expected to make a big impact as a rookie, not just with the balls he catches, but with how his presence opens up things for his teammates.

Johnson said he was comfortable with the expectations for him.

“I know they’re real high, actually,” Johnson said. “That’s why I’m trying not to worry about that, just focus on what I’ve got to do on the field and everything will come.”

Told ESPN.com had already tabbed him as a future Hall of Famer, he laughed.

“That’s crazy,” he said. “That’s their job. Hopefully I come out here throughout my career and prove them right.”

While Johnson missed the first eight days of practices, his agent and the Lions negotiated the contract. Johnson waited at home near Atlanta and in the Detroit area, lifting weights, running and swimming. He looked at the schedule and saw the Lions’ first exhibition looming Thursday against Cincinnati.

“At first I was patient with it,” Johnson said. “I kind of understood what was going on. But then it kind of got a little nerve-racking, especially since the first game was coming up in a week. I just wanted to kind of get out here as soon as possible.”

People around town kept asking Lions chief operating officer Tom Lewand about Johnson – a guy at Starbucks, a guy at a gas station. Lewand’s wife tried to pay for something with a credit card Thursday, and the person asked if she was related to Tom and how negotiations were going.

Talks picked up early this week, but the sides haggled over the structure of the contract. Lewand said the sides worked late into the night Wednesday and Thursday. Lewand said the last e-mail the Lions received from Johnson’s agent, Bus Cook, came in around 2 a.m. today.

“We just kept working at it and working at it,” Lewand said. “We were able to really find some common ground in the last couple of days and work towards resolving a lot of the complexities of the contract.”

Johnson said he arrived at Lions headquarters a little before 7 a.m. today. The Lions’ medical staff gave him a quick look. He signed the contract about 8 a.m. and then he took the field.

“Would I like to have seen in done days ago?” Lewand said. “Yes. But we’re happy it is done and now we can get on to talking about Calvin Johnson’s prowess on the field and how he’s going to help us win football games instead of how much money he’s going to make.”

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