Tyler Booker, ( enigma )

rambo2 said:
McShay is saying that Booker had the best interviews at the combine. Probably has the best character in the entire draft and has the best team leadership. He is going very high.

He sounds like another Zack Martin to me.
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Another Will Hernandez with quotes like that
 
TheDank said:
Yes, the fact you're going off highlight montages is everything I need to know.

I like Booker, he reminds me a lot of Larry Warford who was a solid player in the NFL for a while. He wasn't a top 15 pick or first rounder.
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You insinuated these plays didn’t exist. I just showed you they do. Why would it matter that they’re taken from a highlight clip?

Do you realize these montages are comprised of clips that happened in actual games?

Do you have evidence of not being able to get to the second level or not being able to pull?
 
Enigma is the right word. Booker had an awful combine. 5.38 40, 1.96 split, 27" vertical, 7'10" broad jump, 9.96 3 cone, 4.84 shuttle and only 21 reps on the bench. Upton Stout, the 5'8" CB that weighs 180 lbs did 21 reps. Only 2 offensive linemen did worse.

Bad day?

On the other hand his college production shows him to be a potential starting NFL OG. Would I take him in the first round? No! I would take Membou. He has all the tools and good tape too. Move him inside to RG and he is your Zack Martin replacement. I am not saying he would be my pick at 12, just that he is a better choice at 12 than Booker. The may both turn out to be good players, but I have reservations about Booker.
 
CalPolyTechnique said:
You insinuated these plays didn’t exist. I just showed you they do. Why would it matter that they’re taken from a highlight clip?

Do you realize these montages are comprised of clips that happened in actual games?

Do you have evidence of not being able to get to the second level or not being able to pull?
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Go watch Alabama vs GA. Every time he pulls he either cant get there in time and is just in the way or he's so slow out in front that the ball carrier slows down significantly letting the defense get to their mark. 2nd and 8 5:26 in the first quarter. There's a pull earlier in the game where he just straight up doesn't make it.

Highlight tapes don't matter to me because they cherry pick plays and don't show deficiencies. Chance Warmack looked great in highlight tapes for Alabama too.
 
TheDank said:
Go watch Alabama vs GA. Every time he pulls he either cant get there in time and is just in the way or he's so slow out in front that the ball carrier slows down significantly letting the defense get to their mark. 2nd and 8 5:26 in the first quarter. There's a pull earlier in the game where he just straight up doesn't make it.

Highlight tapes don't matter to me because they cherry pick plays and don't show deficiencies. Chance Warmack looked great in highlight tapes for Alabama too.
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Loool, I was being sarcastic. You really don’t think the plays in the highlight clips exist, as if they are from some alternative universe.
 
CalPolyTechnique said:
Loool, I was being sarcastic. You really don’t think the plays in the highlight clips exist, as if they are from some alternative universe.
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Sure, as soon as I show you're wrong it was sarcasm.

I just watched the main highlight tape on youtube for him just for the hell of it to see what you were even talking about. My guy he has one successful play where he pulls. You can watch him not be able to do it multiple times a game if you watch his actual tape.

There's maybe 4 plays in a highlight tape of 30 with him getting to the second level and most of that is blocking a backside LB who is getting caught looking.

It's just not his strength and the combine numbers back it up. He's slow. He's not going to be able to get where he needs to be in space most of the time and that's a real deficiency. Does it mean he can't play or be a good starter? No, but it is an issue and you'll have to adjust your playcalling for it or suffer. I'm not taking a guard at the top of 1 or in 1 at all if he's not elite and limits my scheme.
 
bleachedwheat said:
He will go in the first round. He is a scheme fit mauling guard. He won't be drafted by teams that run a lot of outside zone. Scratch the 49ers and Dolphins off the list of teams that would draft him.

He is a fit for the Cowboys scheme. I don't think they go O-line at 12. They have enough depth at the position already, there are more pressing needs.
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Sometime the talent is too good to pass. He has the potential and attitude to be one of the top guard in the league. It would be hard for me to pass if he was there at 12
 
TheDank said:
Sure, as soon as I show you're wrong it was sarcasm.

I just watched the main highlight tape on youtube for him just for the hell of it to see what you were even talking about. My guy he has one successful play where he pulls. You can watch him not be able to do it multiple times a game if you watch his actual tape.

There's maybe 4 plays in a highlight tape of 30 with him getting to the second level and most of that is blocking a backside LB who is getting caught looking.

It's just not his strength and the combine numbers back it up. He's slow. He's not going to be able to get where he needs to be in space most of the time and that's a real deficiency. Does it mean he can't play or be a good starter? No, but it is an issue and you'll have to adjust your playcalling for it or suffer. I'm not taking a guard at the top of 1 or in 1 at all if he's not elite and limits my scheme.
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You didn’t show me anything you dunce, lool.

You asked to be shown proof and I showed you.

You then tried to act like snaps from highlight clips somehow don’t count.

That was your argument.

I get it bud. You have no idea of what you’re watching the field so you glom onto testing times from the Combine because it allows you to simply sort the results and surmise in an oversimplified way who can supposedly play and who can’t. You casuals come around the draft forum every year. Nothing new.
 
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His tape says he's an early day 1 pick. Don't care about the combine score. Plus, his comments were epic. Exactly what we need in Dallas. He wants to hurt the other guy. He wants to beat you up and take your lunch money. Reminds me of Erik Williams a bit. I mean nobody is Erik but damn, this dude has the right mindset.
 
He's going in round 1. I doubt he's going to jump in front of a few tackles. Gaurds don't need to be athletic. They need to be strong and mean.
 
CalPolyTechnique said:
You didn’t show me anything you dunce, lool.

You asked to be shown proof and I showed you.

You then tried to act like snaps from highlight clips somehow don’t count.

That was your argument.

I get it bud. You have no idea of what you’re watching the field so you glom onto testing times from the Combine because it allows you to simply sort the results and surmise in an oversimplified way who can supposedly play and who can’t. You casuals come around the draft forum every year. Nothing new.
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Alright. The guy who watches a highlight tape telling someone who actually watches film of a player that he relies on combine numbers is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. The combine data backs up the film you won't watch. I brought it up since it's a quick thing to view for someone like you who does not watch film. I have watched Booker. You clearly have not.

If you came to your opinion from watching film, not a cut up highlight tape, I could respect it. But you didn't. You have no clue what you're talking about and I guess you're lashing out because you're embarassed. That or you really just don't have the reading comprehension to understand what I'm saying and that just makes me sad.

I never said those plays "didn't exist" but a highlight tape isn't film. A guy doing something exactly once doesn't mean he can do it consistently or in the pros, which is what you're trying to figure out when evaluating a player. I'm sure if you watch Laquon Treadwell's highlight tape you come away thinking he has great hands. Turns out... be doesn't.

I'm done with this argument though, if you want to keep embarassing yourself be my guest. I won't be listening or wasting my time anymore.
 
TheDank said:
Alright. The guy who watches a highlight tape telling someone who actually watches film of a player that he relies on combine numbers is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. The combine data backs up the film you won't watch. I brought it up since it's a quick thing to view for someone like you who does not watch film. I have watched Booker. You clearly have not.

If you came to your opinion from watching film, not a cut up highlight tape, I could respect it. But you didn't. You have no clue what you're talking about and I guess you're lashing out because you're embarassed. That or you really just don't have the reading comprehension to understand what I'm saying and that just makes me sad.

I never said those plays "didn't exist" but a highlight tape isn't film. A guy doing something exactly once doesn't mean he can do it consistently or in the pros, which is what you're trying to figure out when evaluating a player. I'm sure if you watch Laquon Treadwell's highlight tape you come away thinking he has great hands. Turns out... be doesn't.

I'm done with this argument though, if you want to keep embarassing yourself be my guest. I won't be listening or wasting my time anymore.
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I stopped reading after you said I don’t watch the film/games.

I posted the highlight clips because it was the easiest thing to provide. You asked to be shown evidence and THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT WAS PROVIDED and you’ve been spinning like a ballerina ever since

You continue to to try and act like snaps from a highlight clip don’t count, which is beyond laughable.

Seriously, this is beyond football. If you can’t understand that a highlight clip is a montage of real snaps, then you’re fundamentally dumb [full stop].

If your argument is that a highlight clip doesn’t show all the warts a prospect has, then congrats, you’ve made a point nobody was arguing.
 
Hawkeye0202 said:
Which is he? 3.9 RAS is troubling but you hear insiders raving about him.

https://atozsports.com/nfl-draft/20...shedeur-sanders-mike-green-tetairoa-mcmillan/

Tyler Booker could be first OL off the board​

This one might shock some, especially those that think Combine testing is the only thing NFL evaluators care about. There are several teams around the NFL that have Booker rated as their top overall offensive lineman in the class. It’s typical for tackles to rise and guards to fall up the board, so it’s possible that ends up hurting Booker in terms of being the top offensive linemen selected.

If he is, however, I would not be shocked at all. Booker is physical, dominant, and has been extremely productive for three seasons now. The 6-4.5, 321-pound force also has some of the best character in the entire class. This is an A+ person, and a very good football player





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Cowboys love drafting high ras guys, I think they'd be out on him
 
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