Tyreek Arrested prior to game. now released

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Reading your comments, I guess you believe that the cops are always wrong and should be fired, right?
Just curious what comments are you reading that made you think that when I come from a family of police officers lol? I said nothing about anyone being fired. So direct me to these comments and I’ll explain them to you.
 

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Like I said in a previous post…there’s trauma. If you can’t relate to said trauma it’s hard to speak on it or understand it. I would love to erase all pain and trauma people suffer from but it’s a much tougher issue than that. When some people see police they get afraid. Some combat that fear with aggression. Some don’t.

I should lead what charge? I’m the last person like I said I don’t know how to fix the issue. I don’t agree with what Cheetah did but I do understand it.
What I see is a black man falsely playing the victim when he was, in fact, wrong in every act he made starting from reckless driving to when the first cop approached to refusing repeatedly to cooperate or follow orders.
That's not trauma. That's entitlement.
Now every young kid that looks up to him sees him as a victim and cops as bad. This should be called out in your community (such a weird term, as if everyone thinks the same because they look the same, it's dumb... not your fault, just generally).
A community leader should denounce Hill. Unfortunately those who do get ostracized by the very community they are in. Usually by some hustler in a suit talking about brotherhood.
 

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What I see is a black man falsely playing the victim when he was, in fact, wrong in every act he made starting from reckless driving to when the first cop approached to refusing repeatedly to cooperate or follow orders.
That's not trauma. That's entitlement.
Now every young kid that looks up to him sees him as a victim and cops as bad. This should be called out in your community (such a weird term, as if everyone thinks the same because they look the same, it's dumb... not your fault, just generally).
A community leader should denounce Hill. Unfortunately those who do get ostracized by the very community they are in. Usually by some hustler in a suit talking about brotherhood.
You’re entitled to that. You see someone playing victim. I see someone suffering trauma. Who’s right? Who’s wrong? Who am I to say….that’s the difficult thing about this thing called life but it’s also what makes it great. We can feel however we want to feel.


You believe community is a weird term because of your ignorance. Ignorance isn’t a bad thing unless you don’t learn or seek to learn.

Community or culture comes from the lack of voice minorities have had. So they created their own voice and own dialogue to speak up when in the past they weren’t allowed to.

As far as a community leader goes….there isn’t a such thing. These guys aren’t assigned by the community to speak for it. No one can do that. A lot of these guys with these reputations are hustlers. There’s no community leader.
 

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Ignorance. Ignorance? That's uncalled for.
Using the term "black community" is meant as divisive.
Jesse Jackson, AL Sharpton and the like are "brothers" that sucker there community into thinking they are victims.
You took this down a rabbit hole so I'll end with this.
Tyreek Hill makes $30M a year. He's not part of your community, "bro", as he would say 100 times over.
You said yourself that he was at fault. Then you essentially claim it's permitted because, trauma.
People who think like you are what's wrong with your community, sadly. Get off the fence. Wrong is wrong.
You see it. Stop making excuses for them.
By the way, you live in Texas. I live 30 minutes from DC.
I'm probably more 'hood than you are...lol
Ignorance isn’t a bad thing. It’s a lack of understanding. Doesn’t mean you are wrong. I’m probably ignorant to your culture as well.

Black community isn’t divisive. That’s just what it is. The term triggers some people just like the Hispanic community or the Chinese community. These aren’t divisive terms that it was what it is. Shouldn’t trigger anyone describing a community.

I never once said his actions were permitted. What I said was I understand where his actions stem from. It’s like a war vet. I’ve never fought in a war but I can sympathize with someone who suffers from PtSD.

And someone from outside my community telling me I’m what’s wrong with my community when they don’t even know my community is very….well it’s predictable. Unfortunately it holds no weight.

I never once claimed or said I was from the hood…what a weirdo statement.

This type of conversation takes knowledge, sympathy, comprehension and understanding that I think we can both agree can’t be had here. And the fact that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are your faces and names you chose to bring up? I think I’m having this conversation with someone out of touch. So to avoid the imagined rabbit hole and thread closure I’m gonna bow out.
 

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Ignorance isn’t a bad thing. It’s a lack of understanding. Doesn’t mean you are wrong. I’m probably ignorant to your culture as well.

Black community isn’t divisive. That’s just what it is. The term triggers some people just like the Hispanic community or the Chinese community. These aren’t divisive terms that it was what it is. Shouldn’t trigger anyone describing a community.

I never once said his actions were permitted. What I said was I understand where his actions stem from. It’s like a war vet. I’ve never fought in a war but I can sympathize with someone who suffers from PtSD.

And someone from outside my community telling me I’m what’s wrong with my community when they don’t even know my community is very….well it’s predictable. Unfortunately it holds no weight.

I never once claimed or said I was from the hood…what a weirdo statement.

This type of conversation takes knowledge, sympathy, comprehension and understanding that I think we can both agree can’t be had here. And the fact that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are your faces and names you chose to bring up? I think I’m having this conversation with someone out of touch. So to avoid the imagined rabbit hole and thread closure I’m gonna bow out.
Just to clarify, the community term doesn't trigger me (ugh, that word). What I'm saying is it implies all black people, in this case, think alike. They do not, as we both know.
You excused his actions because of trauma in your community, your words. That makes no sense. This dude is acting like a victim. He was not. Now, the next kid that pulls over after hearing Hill will be indignant and possibly highten the situation to a worse outcome.
I never said you were from the 'hood. I'm from the 'hood and live in an area that's 55% black. You implied I was ignorant to your community. I live in that community. That's all I was saying and I meant it to be funny, it's also true.
Jackson and Sharpton are two examples of the suits I had mentioned before. There are many supposed lawyers that try to be the next Sharpton, etc. They end up stealing money from poor black families who lose a loved one.
Not out of touch at all.
I think we both attempted to be respectful here.
If you ever get pulled over, just roll down your window...lol
I agree to move on.
 

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He came out today with some version of
"I could've been better" in handling the situation.
I still think the NFL should fine him for the handcuff celebration. The Dolphins owe an apology to the police as well.

He still wants the cop fired though. Just clueless.
But they'll probably fire the poor guy though.
I bet he followed his training to the letter.
Tyreek & Drew first, then the Phins from minute one trying to create the narrative to keep him from getting suspended. They all know after skating on breaking his kid’s arm he was on thin ice for any future incident and they knew he stepped in it Sunday.

I say this as a member of the community he claims to want to help and my biggest issue aside to the entitled punk mouth, is the knee surgery lie as an excuse to continue being a defiant little punk. Why aren’t more people talking about this? Why is everyone deflecting away from that? HE had a chance to tone it down once in cuffs and not only was he defiant still, he flat out lied for the world to see as an excuse be acting defiant for no reason.

If Tyreek wants to be a vehicle for change in the community he’d man up and own his mistake, especially the knee surgery lie and tell all the youth and young adults how lucky he was that being an idiot could have been much worse and he made several stupid decisions start to finish and he’s lucky that while aggressive, police were within protocol based on his defiance.

I have 5% limo tint all around and 15% on my windshield and as I said, am a member of the same community as Tyreek. I’m well aware that when I get stopped, have my window down when approached, no need to knock and of course keep it down. Even though I’m not required to disclose I carry a 9mm unless asked, it is the first thing I volunteer and ask if the officer would like me to step out so he can remove the weapon for his safety. The last time I was pulled over was for doing 118 in a 65 on a freeway, in the state I was in that’s an arrest and automatic car impound at the officer’s discretion, not to mention the illegal tint all around. Got a warning, a thank you for being chill and jokes about meeting up at the track to take a test run. Haven’t gotten a ticket in 20 years in spite of 10-12 stops. Like Chris Rock says: don’t act a fool.
 

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A question for those fence sitters claiming both sides were wrong. How many times should you be allowed to ignore an officer during a stop before "excessive force" is justifiable? Good grief.
excessive force should only be justifiable if the person is like a threat not because you wanna throw a tantrum like that one officer did because Hill was being a jackass. It isn't that hard of a concept, Cops are one of the representation of the monopoly of violence held by the State. They should be held to higher to standard than some ******* private citizen, and that one cop completely escalated the situation. If he wasn't there I doubt anything really happens.
 

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excessive force should only be justifiable if the person is like a threat not because you wanna throw a tantrum like that one officer did because Hill was being a jackass. It isn't that hard of a concept, Cops are one of the representation of the monopoly of violence held by the State. They should be held to higher to standard than some ******* private citizen, and that one cop completely escalated the situation. If he wasn't there I doubt anything really happens.
General rule in life, don't be a jackass to a cop who has your rightfully pulled over because you did something wrong ;)

A cop puts their life on the line every day in the line of duty.

ANY traffic stop runs the potential of a cop being killed.

This is one of many reasons why you both respect and fear a cop who pulls you over when you're driving.

Hill was given numerous instructions when he was pulled over that he did not follow.

The cops got sick of his non compliant attitude and that was all she wrote for Hill past that point.

If there is more blame to go around on either party on this traffic stop, it would be on Hill IMO for pushing the cops to being tired of his non compliant attitude.

New opening line if you get pulled over after you roll your windows down and put your hands on the steering wheel, and when the LEO walks up to is "Don't worry officer, I don't have a Tyreek Hill attitude" LMAO

The video was already posted here, Chris Rock has it down pretty good LOL
 

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excessive force should only be justifiable if the person is like a threat not because you wanna throw a tantrum like that one officer did because Hill was being a jackass. It isn't that hard of a concept, Cops are one of the representation of the monopoly of violence held by the State. They should be held to higher to standard than some ******* private citizen, and that one cop completely escalated the situation. If he wasn't there I doubt anything really happens.
Hill is a threat.
 

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Hill speeding, maybe doing 60 very briefly.
Hill pulls over, rolls down window and gives cop his papers.
Hill rolls up his window
Hill rolls down window 3-4 inches
Cop in a matter of seconds says roll down the window, it was down
Cop with long black sleeves acts all bad azz threatning to break window, then ejects Hill from car.

How many cops at the scene, at least 7-8. Cop with long black sleeves had to have been on an Anabolic Roid Rage moment, get rid of his azz. Can you imagine poor Mr Joe Blow or Ms Shakira O’Brien, they would have been killed!

Cops need to act like human beings and treat people with respect. We are not here to give you respect, you picked the job the job, freaking deal with it. As far as I’m concerned the Thin Blue Line BS should be abolished, it only pits the cops vs you. It’s a nice Club and you ain’t in it!

Roid cop 100% WRONG!
 

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Both sides acted Bad

Only one side has a gun and has been trained to deal with irritated drivers.

There was no reason to pull him out of his car for being an arse ....... that is only done to try and teach someone a lesson ..... which is not the police officers job to do.

And this is from someone who is usually on the Police side.
 

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Hill speeding, maybe doing 60 very briefly.
Hill pulls over, rolls down window and gives cop his papers.
Hill rolls up his window
Hill rolls down window 3-4 inches
Cop in a matter of seconds says roll down the window, it was down
Cop with long black sleeves acts all bad azz threatning to break window, then ejects Hill from car.

How many cops at the scene, at least 7-8. Cop with long black sleeves had to have been on an Anabolic Roid Rage moment, get rid of his azz. Can you imagine poor Mr Joe Blow or Ms Shakira O’Brien, they would have been killed!

Cops need to act like human beings and treat people with respect. We are not here to give you respect, you picked the job the job, freaking deal with it. As far as I’m concerned the Thin Blue Line BS should be abolished, it only pits the cops vs you. It’s a nice Club and you ain’t in it!

Roid cop 100% WRONG!
This is the biggest slant version of what happened I have read yet. We all saw the video dude.
 

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Both sides acted Bad

Only one side has a gun and has been trained to deal with irritated drivers.

There was no reason to pull him out of his car for being an arse ....... that is only done to try and teach someone a lesson ..... which is not the police officers job to do.

And this is from someone who is usually on the Police side.
He should have been pulled from the car the moment he was stopped for driving recklessly.
 

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This is the biggest slant version of what happened I have read yet. We all saw the video dude.
If u saw the video u should be freaking outraged. Simple fact is that the window was all the way down and he handed the cop his papers. Once he handed the cop his papers he had every right to roll up his window As the cop should have gone back to his bike and written up whatever he wanted to. Citizens have zero obligation to be warm and fuzzy with the Police, in fact lawyers will advise to say nothing. It’s the cops job to be professional, the citizen has no such requirement and the cop just needs to learn to eat it! The guy in the black sleeves was a jackboot thug, that’s how you wind up getting yourself dead and that’s how you wind up being hated by the citizenry.

Maybe you can advise where the threat was in this whole situation?
 

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If u saw the video u should be freaking outraged. Simple fact is that the window was all the way down and he handed the cop his papers. Once he handed the cop his papers he had every right to roll up his window As the cop should have gone back to his bike and written up whatever he wanted to. Citizens have zero obligation to be warm and fuzzy with the Police, in fact lawyers will advise to say nothing. It’s the cops job to be professional, the citizen has no such requirement and the cop just needs to learn to eat it! The guy in the black sleeves was a jackboot thug, that’s how you wind up getting yourself dead and that’s how you wind up being hated by the citizenry.

Maybe you can advise where the threat was in this whole situation?
The thing is, we've seen the video. Anybody commenting without viewing the incident themselves is disqualified from the topic out of pure idiocy.

To your question, the threat is that he rolled his tinted window up. There are plenty of incidents showing cops being shot in this scenario. Black dude in a wife beater driving recklessly in a McClaren in Miami-Dade.

Hill's attitude was uncalled for. He could've killed a construction worker. He chose to immediately highten the situation. "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
Cop was within his training the entire time. They don't have to be nice to you either. It goes both ways.
 

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If u saw the video u should be freaking outraged.
I am outraged.

After watching the video, it's apparent Hill was in the wrong.

Hill himself admitted (later after the video got out) "that he could have handled things better on his end".

End of the day when you get into a pissing match with a cop who has you pulled along side of the road for a legitimate reason, generally you're going to lose every time.

RoboQB answered you question as to where there could have been an unseen danger, and I'm of the exact same opinion. The cop told him more than a couple of times to keep his window down and Hill did not respond immediately by doing what the officer asked.

Hill's response? He's a private person and he doesn't like the spotlight on him so to speak (or to that extent) as to his window remaining up.

Now Hill wants to become a LEO when he retires from the NFL? Give me a break. Guy and his marketing team are playing the drama queens.

Was the cop overly aggressive? Yes. Could have the cop tried to de escalate the situation? Yes. However, does the cop have to de escalate the situation? No. It's up to YOU as a citizen to de escalate the situation. Hill had a chip on his shoulder and it showed during that video. Two wrongs don't make a right, but Hill gave the officer to "wrong him" by pulling him out of his own car.
 

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I knew it immediately. The cops are on edge 24x7 and when someone gives you lip and won’t open the window, there’s going to be issues, black, white, brown, female, whatever. He handled completely wrong.
Not really. More so if brown or black. We have seen this and experienced it too many times. I had to read numerous police reports in my prior occupation, and numerous times the incidents where written differently for people of color. And numerous times they would list the race of the perpetrator (minority) or witnesses when it had nothing to do with the offense. Everytime I would read the driver of the vehicle and not his or her race. I knew who they were talking about. I have seen in reports where they use a hell of alot less restraint on cases where on others they have not. It use to make me sad. That is the real world!!
 
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