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CATCH17;3143800 said:
Same here.

Maybe Matt Serra would be a decent match for him @ 155. Serra is a good boxer so he would have a punchers chance.

But Serra just seems like a poor mans BJ.

I don't know if anyone can come close to BJ Penns skill set.

Serra has already fought Penn and he lost by a very close decision. Serra is a much better lightweight then welter which is why I can't understand why he stays in that weight class. Serra is the only person at 155 that would give Penn problems but he stubbornly stays at welter where the fighters are too big for him.
 

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MrMom;3143162 said:
I don't see anyone at 155 presenting a challenge. I'd like to see him move back up to 170 and take on a couple of challengers before getting another shot at GSP. Maybe Koscheck and Alves. I want to see him at 170 with his current conditioning team.


Koscheck, Alves, and even Hughes would dominate Penn at welter. Not because they are better fighters, but rather because they are just too big and too strong. Penn would get owned again by GSP, it wouldn't even be close. The only way Penn would be able to compete in the welter division is if he pulled a Frank Mir and put 20 pounds of muscle on from weight training. BJ is a great fighter but not a welterweight at all.
 

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BJ is untouchable at 155. I have no doubt about that but at 170 he'd have the same issues he had before. There is really only one money fight for him at 170 and that is with GSP and I don't know why anyone would want to watch GSP absolutely dominate him again.

Penn should just stay at 155, rack up his W's, beat anyone and everyone that they ever put in front of him at that weight and retire as pretty much unbeatable at that weight class.
 

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neosapien23;3146377 said:
Serra has already fought Penn and he lost by a very close decision. Serra is a much better lightweight then welter which is why I can't understand why he stays in that weight class. Serra is the only person at 155 that would give Penn problems but he stubbornly stays at welter where the fighters are too big for him.

Why would Serra even get a shot at him at 155?

He's fought 2 fights in like 3 years now and those two fights were losses to GSP and Matt Hughes. He's done absolutely nothing to deserve even being in the octagon with Penn for a title fight at 155.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3146418 said:
Why would Serra even get a shot at him at 155?

He's fought 2 fights in like 3 years now and those two fights were losses to GSP and Matt Hughes. He's done absolutely nothing to deserve even being in the octagon with Penn for a title fight at 155.

Because they have ran out of opponents at 155.

Tyson Griffin? Yeah right.

Roger Huerta might have got a shot if he wouldn't just got beat.

Its a wrap as it stands right now @ 155.

Florian and Diego are / were top 3 155'rs and they both got pwned.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3146418 said:
Why would Serra even get a shot at him at 155?

He's fought 2 fights in like 3 years now and those two fights were losses to GSP and Matt Hughes. He's done absolutely nothing to deserve even being in the octagon with Penn for a title fight at 155.


He beat GSP by KO one time and lost the other fight which is much better than what Penn did. He lost a very close decision to Hughes unlike Penn who was KOed. The only reason he has not fought alot is because he had a major back surgery and needed to heal. Serra if he was able to make weight comfortably, he would give Penn all he could handle and alot of fans felt he actually beat Penn what they faced off. I'm not one of them, but Serra is very skilled on both the stand up and on the ground.
 

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Ramp' have you heard anything beyond the rumors of Urijah Faber and Penn Fighting (Faber moving up to 155)? I'd like to see that fight or even Mike Brown vs Penn
 

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neosapien23;3146815 said:
He beat GSP by KO one time and lost the other fight which is much better than what Penn did. He lost a very close decision to Hughes unlike Penn who was KOed. The only reason he has not fought alot is because he had a major back surgery and needed to heal. Serra if he was able to make weight comfortably, he would give Penn all he could handle and alot of fans felt he actually beat Penn what they faced off. I'm not one of them, but Serra is very skilled on both the stand up and on the ground.


Penn also has beaten Hughes by submitting him so I think Penn faired better against Hughes.

Serra faired better against GSP cause he got the KO, for sure, but it's not like Penn was swiss cheese against GSP the first time either. He beat him up pretty badly in the first round of that fight. GSP just squeaked by with what he did in rounds 2 and 3 but then again the second time they faced GSP absolutely dominated Penn.

I can see, I guess, why people would want to give Serra a shot, given the options in the 155 division, but I'm just not a big fan of giving guys shots that they've done absolutely nothing to earn and Matt Serra is exactly that.

He's lost 2 of his 3 fights he's had since winning the Ultimate Fighter. Let that sink in as well. He's fought only 3 times since then. I know he had the back issue, and I sympathize with that, but he should have gotten taken care of long ago instead of dragging it out so long that he wound up fighting 3 fights over a 2 and a half year span cause he couldn't get healthy.

Matt Serra has had his one moment in the sun. He wasn't that good prior to the Ultimate Fighter show, which is the exact reason he was even on it in the first place was to get a second shot at being back in the UFC, and he's not been that good since winning it.

I honestly just don't see the merits in giving him a 155 title shot.
 

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the kid 05;3147103 said:
Ramp' have you heard anything beyond the rumors of Urijah Faber and Penn Fighting (Faber moving up to 155)? I'd like to see that fight or even Mike Brown vs Penn
na I haven't heard that. Penn would smash both of them. nobody is beating BJ at 155 for a long time as long as Penn keeps taking it seriously.
 

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Rampage;3147368 said:
na I haven't heard that. Penn would smash both of them. nobody is beating BJ at 155 for a long time as long as Penn keeps taking it seriously.

You think he is the most skilled fighter in MMA?
 

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Rampage;3147368 said:
na I haven't heard that. Penn would smash both of them. nobody is beating BJ at 155 for a long time as long as Penn keeps taking it seriously.

I agree. At 155, and serious about it, he's as dangerous as a fighter can be.


CATCH17;3147404 said:
You think he is the most skilled fighter in MMA?

I don't know. That's a tough call. He could easily be in the conversation with Silva and a couple others.

BJ has a ton of skill, both standing and on the ground, and at 155, motivated, taking it serious, and in condition he's pretty much untouchable. I don't see anyone fighting at 155, right now, who has a shot of beating him.
 

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CATCH17;3147404 said:
You think he is the most skilled fighter in MMA?
he's definitely one of them. he's the 1st American to win the World Ju Jitsu championship and he did it with only 3 years of expierence in bjj. he has one of the best if not the best takedown defenses in the game. he's very smart and very fast. he has excellent boxing all while he rarely throws any kicks. he's finally taking it seriously and fighting at the correct weight for him. since he went back to the lightweight division he's dominated everybody he's fought. the guy is incredible
 
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