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Rowdy;3316842 said:
http://www.mmanews.com/rankings

GSP is rated top pound for pound on the most recent rankings that were released.


Pound-For-Pound

1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Fedor Emelianenko
3. Anderson Silva
4. Lyoto Machida
5. B.J. Penn
6. Jose Aldo
7. Mike Thomas Brown
8. Jon Fitch
9. Thiago Alves
10. Brian Bowles

:laugh2: @ Jon Fitch and Thiago Alves even being on that list.
p4p is an opinion

guess you just skipped over the 1st few links till you found one with gsp ranked #1
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source...0&aql=&oq=mma+po&gs_rfai=&fp=d53639546d3e9460
 

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GSP should put on a few lbs and go fight middle weight then at least there would be 2 good fighters in one of those weak *** divisions.

Funny how you UFC fanboys ***** and whine about Fedor not fighting anyone yet you're all to happy to celebrate the greatness that is GPS every time he beats up some bum in his joke of a weight class.

Wanna be great GSP? go fight Silva in MW or at catch weight, if he actually wanted this Dana would have made it happen by now
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3316845 said:
Jon Jones elbows should be on here somewhere

Bones is a beast. Looking forward to seeing more from him.
 

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Ren;3317312 said:
GSP should put on a few lbs and go fight middle weight then at least there would be 2 good fighters in one of those weak *** divisions.

Funny how you UFC fanboys ***** and whine about Fedor not fighting anyone yet you're all to happy to celebrate the greatness that is GPS every time he beats up some bum in his joke of a weight class.

Wanna be great GSP? go fight Silva in MW or at catch weight, if he actually wanted this Dana would have made it happen by now
Dana has said that he believes Silva is too big for GSP and didn't want that fight to happen. Also, GSP said he would take the fight and he has added on 8 lbs of lean muscle and is walking around at 195 now. His division has great competition and very good fighters, he just makes them look like bums. Just out of curiosity, who are your favorite fighters?
 

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Cover 2;3316553 said:
BJ could be argued over GSP.

No, he couldn't.

And this coming from the guy who has a pair of BJ Penn autographed fight gloves sitting in a glass case.
 

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Ren;3317312 said:
GSP should put on a few lbs and go fight middle weight then at least there would be 2 good fighters in one of those weak *** divisions.
Other than spider who do you think would beat GSP in the middle weight class since you think he is overated(and you better not put Bisbing)
 

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Dash28;3317348 said:
Dana has said that he believes Silva is too big for GSP and didn't want that fight to happen. Also, GSP said he would take the fight and he has added on 8 lbs of lean muscle and is walking around at 195 now. His division has great competition and very good fighters, he just makes them look like bums. Just out of curiosity, who are your favorite fighters?

pleas name these great welter weight fighters...
 

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dalboy;3317588 said:
Other than spider who do you think would beat GSP in the middle weight class since you think he is overated(and you better not put Bisbing)


If you're going to quote me quote what i'm saying and not what you want me to say. I said if he jumps to MW there will be 2 good fighters in MW since there's only 1 now.

Wanderlei could probably take him though, take away GSPs size advantage in WW and he would to have to win on skill

MW is pretty sad right now too

Like i said, anyone wanna prove me wrong about WW feel free to list all these great fighters in that division....
 

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Ren;3317605 said:
If you're going to quote me quote what i'm saying and not what you want me to say. I said if he jumps to MW there will be 2 good fighters in MW since there's only 1 now.

Wanderlei could probably take him though, take away GSPs size advantage in WW and he would to have to win on skill

MW is pretty sad right now too

Like i said, anyone wanna prove me wrong about WW feel free to list all these great fighters in that division....
I don't think it would be a problem if GSP had to win on "skill." Kos, Fitch, Alves, Daley and Hughes was one of the great WW champs and he ran through him twice. I never said the WW had "great" fighters but they're very good fighters and nothing to sneeze at. I guess this is just a hate for GSP more than anything. Few of the WW make the pound for pound rankings on some. And it's Dana that doesn't want the Silva vs GSP fight, GSP is putting on weight and he changed his diet so he could move up a weightclass. Who are a few of your favorite fighters Ren?
 

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TheCount;3317321 said:
Bones is a beast. Looking forward to seeing more from him.
Agree. I would like to see JDS vs Cain and really looking forward to the Rua/Machida rematch.
 

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GSP's problem is that he's so much better than everyone in his division that people have no become bored with him and they want to try and downgrade him for simply being great at what he does in his weight class.

It's a stupid thing that happens with a lot of fighters. They dominate people for too long and all the sudden they're over-rated cause everyone else in their division sucks.

Like with everything else sports related fans tend to decide to try and take away from people who are great at what they do by making up excuses for why they're great at what they do. Instead of simply nodding their head in respect to the fact that they're simply great at their sport.

BJ Penn is the unquestioned best LW fighter in the UFC. Does that mean everyone else in the LW division are simply bums who suck? To say that they are is a slap in the face at just how great BJ Penn is at 155.

Same thing goes for GSP at 170 and Anderson Silva at 185. I'd love to see those two divisions get even more people in them for those two to fight, and dominate, but I'll take nothing away from either of them, or Penn, or anyone who dominates their division.

Also why does GSP get knocked for his 'competition' in the PNP catagory and then people turn right around and praise Fedor as the best PNP in the world. Who exactly has he fought in the last oh...3-4 years who would even be in a discussion for a top fighter 3 fighter in the HW division right now?

Glass Jaw Andre, average at best Silvia, and Brett 'I'm A Fat Mr. T' Rogers are not exactly impressive, awe inspiring, wins either. So shouldn't you be knocking Fedor as well given his lack of legit competition in...forever?
 

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Oh and as for the card...

I've got GSP over Hardy, Carwin over Mir, and Alves over Fitch.
 

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BigWillie;3317442 said:
No, he couldn't.

And this coming from the guy who has a pair of BJ Penn autographed fight gloves sitting in a glass case.
GSP had a huge size advantage over BJ in their fight, so I don't really take that fight into consideration. Before that fight even Bas thought BJ was p4p #1.
 

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Cover 2;3320499 said:
GSP had a huge size advantage over BJ in their fight, so I don't really take that fight into consideration. Before that fight even Bas thought BJ was p4p #1.
gsp is bigger than everybody he fights. the only welterweight bigger than him is Anthony Johnson who will probably move to middleweight since he can never make 170.
 

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Rampage;3320617 said:
gsp is bigger than everybody he fights. the only welterweight bigger than him is Anthony Johnson who will probably move to middleweight since he can never make 170.
And Thiago Alves. How him and Rumble can make weight is something I can't understand.
 

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Cover 2;3320499 said:
GSP had a huge size advantage over BJ in their fight, so I don't really take that fight into consideration. Before that fight even Bas thought BJ was p4p #1.

Bas also said Benji Radach could beat Anderson Silva. Bas was a terrific fighter and a great color commentator for the simple fact he knows how to make the average joe understand the sport. But as an analyst, he is the same as everyone else.

I did not mention GSP's win over BJ? But size is a discrepancy that will happen in a ton of fights. BJ was confident enough in himself to ask for that fight, and he was thoroughly manhandled. It happens.

Matt Hughes is no bigger than GSP, as Hughes walks about the same weight as GSP. BJ was able to defeat Matt once upon a time. :)

Plus, GSP has fought guys bigger than himself as well. Guys like Jon Fitch and Thiago Alves walk at over 200lbs while GSP usually walks around at 190lbs.

Rampage;3320617 said:
gsp is bigger than everybody he fights. the only welterweight bigger than him is Anthony Johnson who will probably move to middleweight since he can never make 170.

Misconception, simply due to size.

I could name off a laundry list of fighters who walk around much bigger than GSP. It's just that GSP has these huge hulking muscles, even when he weighs-in that people think he is a ginormous welterweight. Not true at all.

GSP is known to walk at around just over 190lbs, and has only gotten that big recently, when he is out of training. Normally, GSP cuts around 15lbs of water weight to make his fights. For example - he walked into the cage against BJ at only a weight of 186lbs. Not a huge WW by any means.

Guys like Jon Fitch, Rory Markham, Thiago Alves, Mike Swick, Paul Daley, Josh Koscheck, and even Dan Hardy. Yes, even Dan Hardy has said himself he has been known to walk around as much as 210 in between fights.

Alves and Rumble are the two biggest WWs, as both are known to walk around 220lbs, which is insane to think.

But as I was saying, GSP is not a ginormous welterweight, and not even close to being one of the biggest in his division.
 

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TheCount;3322522 said:
You guys watching online? Stupid channel surfing is down.


I cant get anything to work:banghead:
 
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