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I dont know if Silva got tired or what but it was embarassing. Imagine someone who tried to get a friend into UFC and thats the 1st PPV they saw.


I can deal w/ Silvas over the top stuff if he could fully back it up, but to go 5 rounds w/ whoever that guy was is embarassing
 

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BJ got robed and MAN!!!!!!!!!!! SILVA was running the whole time im glad i did'nt pay 50 bucks or i would make dana pay that back
 

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TheDallasDon;3341965 said:
BJ got robed and MAN!!!!!!!!!!! SILVA was running the whole time im glad i did'nt pay 50 bucks or i would make dana pay that back

BJ wasn't robbed, he was as pathetic as Silva was. Just standing there doing nothing when you're the champion. At least Silva started out engaging.

Penn should have listened to his corner and and taken it to the ground.
 

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The card actually looked decent on paper, the fights just sucked

Silva was a complete ******, the guy is a huge draw probably the biggest in the sport and he pulls that crap, you have to admire and respect his talent but can't say i'm a huge fan anymore cause of his attitude. He could have fished that fight at any time but just didn't bother, at least GSP tried to finish his lame *** fight.

Shocked Penn lost didn't see that one coming but that fight sucked too, the only excitement was waiting to see if the judges was gonna pull another Machida/Shogun, speaking of Machida/Shogun next up is UFC 113 :D
 

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First off did BJ even train for this fight. He looked in nowhere the same shape he did against Diego :bang2: . Also how did that first judge score the fight 50-45? Did he even watch the fight?

Second, I'm convinced Anderson Silva is involved in some shady dealings involved with gambling. He could have knocked Maia out in the 1st, but chose to go to decision. He ran away from him in the 4th and 5th rounds. I think either him or some "business associates" placed some money on a UD. I don't think anybody expected a UD between these two. It was either going to be a TKO, KO, or in Maia's case a sub.

I was disappointed Hughes-Gracie never hit the ground. I was really looking forward to seeing that.

The first two fights were the best.
 

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I had prior commitment and couldnt get the fight. All I can say is thank god, I can find something better to wast $55 on.
 

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Cover 2;3342364 said:
First off did BJ even train for this fight. He looked in nowhere the same shape he did against Diego :bang2: .

My fiance said the same thing as soon as she saw him, he was in better shape for Diego. I shrugged it off but obviously something was up. It became obvious when his corner told him to take it to the ground and BJ plain refused.
 

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Personally when it comes to Silva I think he's bored at 185. If you watched his last 5 fights there is a huge difference in how he goes about fights at 205 (he's had 2 of them in his last five fights against Irvin and Griffin) than how he does at 185.

At 205 he is always pushing the pace, going after the guy, and always seems to be looking to knock his opponent out. At 185 now days he seems like he's completely bored and just toys with his opponents at that weight class as if he has no fear, at all, that they've got any shot of actually even giving him a run let alone defeat him.

The fight Saturday night really seemed to highlight that fact as he appeared all night to be doing nothing more than mocking Damien both with his showboating and the fact that he seemed to be showing that no matter what he could just hang out, rack up points, and win the fight without giving any real effort.


I think they're going to have to start putting him in more 205 fights to avoid some of these things because there is pretty much no one, at all, left in 185 worth watching him fight anyway.
 

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Doesnt matter to me if he is bored or not, fans are paying good money to see him fight not to dance around. If he is that bored why not just end it and go home?
 

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A few months ago as a neophyte to this sport I suggested that Silva should be an under card fight. I got raked over the coals for that. I stand by it more than ever now.
 

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Hostile;3343246 said:
A few months ago as a neophyte to this sport I suggested that Silva should be an under card fight. I got raked over the coals for that. I stand by it more than ever now.


Im just surprised youre giving it a chance. Your generation is quick to dismiss this for whatever reason.

Im assuming b/c a lot of the guys have tatooes, and the ads are for energy drinks and video games, and they come out to loud music. Its one of those things where they dont want to like it
 

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Doomsday;3343224 said:
Doesnt matter to me if he is bored or not, fans are paying good money to see him fight not to dance around. If he is that bored why not just end it and go home?

I agree but it's up to him rather to do things like that or not. I enjoy watching him fight despite the silly antics at times. I still enjoy watching him fight cause I respect exactly how great the guy is at what he does and I keep thinking sooner or later someone will really challenge him and we'll see a very, very, very special fight.

Unfortunately no matter what weight class thus far they've not been able to throw anyone at him that really challenges him at all.

In the Countdown show leading up to the event Silva mentioned that he's talked about not only going up and doing some heavyweight fights, to see how he'd do there, but he's also talked about dropping down to 170 and fighting there as well.

When I heard that I figured that was brought up because he wants a shot at GSP and is showing he's even willing to go down to 170 to get that shot. I imagine after Saturday he wants a shot at GSP even more now.

I know a lot of people would not want to see that fight, cause they don't like GSP or Silva or whatever, but I'm one fan who would be thrilled to watch those two go at it.

I wonder if this means Dana will now make Silva fight Wandi at 185. I know Wandi has expressed that he wants to fight him. That could be an interesting fight cause it's the type of fighter that would make Silva keep the heat on and not screw around cause Wandi could put him out if he screws around too much.


Hostile;3343246 said:
A few months ago as a neophyte to this sport I suggested that Silva should be an under card fight. I got raked over the coals for that. I stand by it more than ever now.

I still don't agree. I never will. The guy is extremely talented and, antics aside, is impressive to watch pretty much walk through folks no matter how good they are. I always find that kind of thing extremely entertaining and impressive when a person is so good that even when they're jacking around they still absolute dominate and control a fighter from being able to do anything against them.

It might be a while though, and I wouldn't disagree with White on it, before they put one of his fights as the main again and that includes his title defense fights. They'll probably start putting him as the fight right before the main and start putting him on cards with other fights they can highlight as the main.
 

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Hostile;3343246 said:
A few months ago as a neophyte to this sport I suggested that Silva should be an under card fight. I got raked over the coals for that. I stand by it more than ever now.

You can't put a championship bout on the undercard if you want your sport to be taken seriously. Main event or not doesn't really matter to Silva anyway, he obviously doesn't care about being loved. He has absolutely no fear of anyone at 185, and putting him up against a BJJ guy with no ability to take him down was just asking for trouble.

The GSP/Silva fight will never happen unless it's a catch-weight fight, but I think Silva would definitely take it seriously. I'd like to see Jon Bones Jones against Silva myself, but not yet. I love Jones, so not quite ready to feed him to the wolves yet, but eventually it needs to happen. Jon would make Silva work for sure.
 

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I recently read where Dana said that Silva might be the first champ to fight in the prelims. He is extremely upset about how that fight went. He also said the fight against GSP is off.
 

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After Fighters.com and UFC middleweight champion “Spider” Anderson Silva’s (25-4) strange performance in a five-round unanimous decision over Demian Maia (11-2) at UFC 112 in Abu Dhabi Saturday, UFC President Dana White was clear with his disgust at the Brazilian he’s promoted as the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world.

“I don’t know what I’m going to do to him right now,” White told the post-fight press conference. “I don’t know. I honestly don’t know what to say. I’m so blown away and disgusted and saddened.”
But, Fighters.com thinks both White and Silva are being coy about the origin of Silva’s antics when defending his 185-pound title. There’s a quiet war going on between White and Silva behind the scenes and it’s all about Silva boxing legendary boxer Roy Jones, Jr.

Recall that after Silva beat former PRIDE middleweight champion and third-ranked “Hollywood” Dan Henderson (25-7), Silva began to publicly talk about purusing his dream of boxing Jones. White, though, assured Silva and the public that he would kaybash any matchup between Silva and Jones under Marquess of Queensberry rules.

Starting with his next title defense versus “Predator” Patrick Cote (13-5) at UFC 90 in Chicago in October 2008 and through his defenses versus Thales Leites (16-3) at UFC 97 in Montreal in April 2009 and Maia Saturday, Silva’s title defenses have been full of antics and disappointment. After each, Silva has apologized and promised MMA fans a better performance next time, as he did Saturday.

Fighters.com suspects Silva is intentionally sabotaging his UFC title defenses and White knows it. That’s why White couldn’t sit through the entire main event in Abu Dhabi.
But, what about Silva’s devastating first-round knockouts in light heavyweight matchups versus “Sandman” James Irvin (14-6) and Fighters.com fifth-ranked light heavyweight Forrest Griffin (17-6)? Exactly! Those are the exceptions that convince Fighters.com that Silva’s performances at middleweight are intentional.

Fighters.com has previously reported that Silva’s UFC contract is written such that if Silva retires as a UFC champion, he’s essentially perpetually bound to the UFC if he ever wants to fight again in any combat sport. So, even if Silva retired as UFC champion, White can veto a Silva-Jones boxing matchup. And, Silva can’t voluntarily vacate his title under his contract, nor can he practically throw a fight without ruining his reputation and any potential Silva-Jones boxing match. Silva has to legitimately lose at middleweight before he could retire and box Jones, but a loss would also kaybash the Silva-Jones matchup. Catch-22!

Fighters.com thinks Silva’s antics in his last three title defenses is Silva’s plea to White to let him vacate the 185-pound title so he can retire and box Jones.
Fighters.com can’t read Silva’s mind, of course. But, the facts reported here have been verified by sources. With those, Fighters.com is just putting two and two together
 

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I blame the UFC for making that fight. Rampages' theory seems to have some legs but as a human Silva almost might have held back b/c he didnt want to ruin the guys career. That shouldnt have been a title fight at least.


Give him Bones Jones. He wont be able to run from the stuff Jones throws and should be motivated, and we know Jones isnt a push over.
 
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