Understanding the NFL players' no-trade clause

[Coogiguy03]

Great, then Cooper Rush leads the Boys to a 5-12 record..BRILLIANT

can you say Draft a qb in the first round!!!! Trade back some picks and get more picks

 

[Adreme]

Watson was 25. Dak would be 1 year younger than Russ when he went to Denver

You mean when Russ had looked bad, had just missed games due to injury, and was traded for a massive haul, and then signed a then record deal before even taking a snap for Denver despite having 2 years left on his deal. Ya both injury and looking like he took a step back really hurt his value. Also I am pretty sure Dak is 3 years younger as Wilson is currently 35 and played in Denver for 2 years which means he would have been traded 2 years ago when he was 33 and Dak is currently 30.

Especially when you add in the fact that if the Cowboys did not play Dak to do some silly "lesson" between losing the locker room and regressing at QB and putting a young QB before a bad OLine, the offense is going to look really so to see an offense go from top 3 to at best average, but probably worse, would also grow his value.

 

[Adreme]

can you say Draft a qb in the first round!!!! Trade back some picks and get more picks

Then he probably is awful because you have a 2/3 chance of a first round QB being a bust. You then do it again in 2 years and then again in 2 years and then hopefully you have a Tua. However to get this Tua you burned several seasons and 3 first round picks, that is just the averages and it is why teams pay the QBs what they do because you need one of the 15 guys who can get you there and you know it will take on average 3 first round picks to get one.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Then he probably is awful because you have a 2/3 chance of a first round QB being a bust. You then do it again in 2 years and then again in 2 years and then hopefully you have a Tua. However to get this Tua you burned several seasons and 3 first round picks, that is just the averages and it is why teams pay the QBs what they do because you need one of the 15 guys who can get you there and you know it will take on average 3 first round picks to get one.

Only difference is theirs less hype during the regular season on stats as the rookie may struggle more than a vet like dak would/could he be good possibly who knows! As far as the playoffs, what are we missing? What would be different, we've been losing when we get there

 

[noshame]

If he's traded, he can pick the team He's going to if he's cut. He's got to clear waivers.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Can we drop him off at McDonald's?? And step on the gas

You have something against McDonalds?

 

[Mr_437]

Dak's not waiving the clause due to the number of endorsements he has based off him being the Cowboys QB.

 

[Jimbo123]

can you say Draft a qb in the first round!!!! Trade back some picks and get more picks

Then he probably is awful because you have a 2/3 chance of a first round QB being a bust. You then do it again in 2 years and then again in 2 years and then hopefully you have a Tua. However to get this Tua you burned several seasons and 3 first round picks, that is just the averages and it is why teams pay the QBs what they do because you need one of the 15 guys who can get you there and you know it will take on average 3 first round picks to get one.

Adreme: Exactly

 

[Coogiguy03]

You have something against McDonalds?

yes the way our owner puts salt on a sandwich that doesn't need it!! Prices are sky high too, tears my tummy, stopped eating that mess!

 

[Coogiguy03]

If he's traded, he can pick the team He's going to if he's cut. He's got to clear waivers.

wow very very good point!! This needs to be brought up more

 

[Bullflop]

Stephen Jones has already established himself as a negotiator that routinely offers many players less than they deserve. If he allows Dak what may be perceived as more than what he deserves, other players would probably be prone to questioning whether or not he's prone to showing favoritism to certain players and disallowing what others on the team have already displayed deserving. This is a two-sided coin which possibly could work in favor of the team or not.

Of course, there will be many players that feel Dak is deserving and others that take issue with it but are afraid to say so in the presence of others. Stephen must be cautious to be consistent with his assessments of the players to avoid problems, since Jerry has appointed him to tend to the negotiations. He seldom interferes with it and if he does, it apparently happens quietly.

 

[CTcowboy203]

Ahh the “no trade clause” allows players to veto a trade…

 

[Hawkeye0202]

But why would Dak waive his no trade clause? What circumstances would cause him to do that? Guys who waive trade clauses generally have issues and want out of their current teams. t would be highly unusual for a player in Dak's position to waive his no trade clause.

Because another team is agreeing to his contract demands after his current team refused. So to get a better deal from another team, he waives the no-trade clause. It's not that hard..........

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

You mean when Russ had looked bad, had just missed games due to injury, and was traded for a massive haul, and then signed a then record deal before even taking a snap for Denver despite having 2 years left on his deal. Ya both injury and looking like he took a step back really hurt his value. Also I am pretty sure Dak is 3 years younger as Wilson is currently 35 and played in Denver for 2 years which means he would have been traded 2 years ago when he was 33 and Dak is currently 30.

Especially when you add in the fact that if the Cowboys did not play Dak to do some silly "lesson" between losing the locker room and regressing at QB and putting a young QB before a bad OLine, the offense is going to look really so to see an offense go from top 3 to at best average, but probably worse, would also grow his value.

Russ missed time with injury and not a benching, and he did not look as bad as Dak did against GB.

Dak is 30 now, but what team cares what age the player is in March when the season is between September and February? What age will Dak be when the season starts? 31. What age would he be next season after being benched for a year? 32.

 

[Rockport]

Some fans seem to be confused regarding this clause in Dak's contract. Several times I have read posts saying he can't be traded coz the no-trade clause. That's not true........it's simply a tool that gives players the right to choose where/what team they are traded. More times than not both the player and team have agreed to move on when this clause is used ( teams will sometimes give the player permission to talk to certain teams, usually outside the division)

Can an NFL player prevent a trade from happening?​

Yes. A player may veto a potential trade if they have a no-trade clause in their contract with the team.

What is a no-trade clause?​

A no-trade clause is a stipulation in a contract that allows a player to reject any proposed trade in which they are involved. No-trade clauses may also feature variations, such as provisions stating a list of pre-determined teams a player is willing to waive the no-trade clause for or one that allows a team to only trade a player during a certain period of time.


How does a no-trade clause work?


Definition. A no-trade clause is a contractual clause that allows players to veto trades to certain teams. No-trade clauses are often worked into contract extensions and free-agent contracts as a perk for the players signing such deals.



NFL. The only players I know that have no-trade clauses in their contracts at this current moment are Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, DeShaun Watson, Russell Wilson, and Patrick Mahomes.

A couple of recent examples of players waiving the clause......






Here is a list of players with the clause in 2021........notice at least 5 of the 8 players on the list traded.

He has a no-trade clause.

 

[shabazz]

We don’t have to trade Dak to get out of this mess.

I would only hope that they trade him to another NFC East team

 

[Adreme]

Russ missed time with injury and not a benching, and he did not look as bad as Dak did against GB.

Dak is 30 now, but what team cares what age the player is in March when the season is between September and February? What age will Dak be when the season starts? 31. What age would he be next season after being benched for a year? 32.

And what age was Wilson during the season... 34. You are honestly trying to argue that 30 year old Dak and 35 year old Russel Wilson are not 5 years apart. There birthdays are 4 months apart and you want to round that up to a year. That is staggeringly dishonest.

But again when you have 17 games as the second best QB in football and a bad half, people are going to defer to the 17 over the .5, especially when factored with the fact that the defense put up a performance that no team in the history of the NFL playoffs has won from (I could not find a regular season example either but that sample size is much larger so it is possible). I still challenge anyone to find a play example (or any) when a defense gave up TDs on 6 of their first 7 possessions and won the game.

And again people would see this "benching" for what it is: a petty by incompetent owners who put ego above winning. When the offense would look worse than it has the past couple years Dak's value goes up. When the offense from top 3 in the past 3-4 years to average/below average Dak's value goes up not down. Every GM is going to basically go "hmmm we have a QB who the last season he played was undisputed top 10 QB (by their own rankings) who is going to be completely healthy and at his age we can say he will be able to sustain that for the next 4 years so lets offer 4 years 240" which is what he would have gotten anyway. The ONLY way he can lose value is if he plays and plays badly or gets injured. The Cowboys have no ability to force his value down by not playing him.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Dak just captained the worst playoff game in Cowboys history, and one of the most dubious in NFL history. Dallas then announces he will not play for all of 2024 due to their preference of starting a young QB for a better future for the franchise. There is no team in the NFL who will agree to pay a now-32 y.o. QB who hasn’t played football in a year team a contract equal to what he could get right now. It would be a significant hit to his career earnings.

If he is worth so little why don’t the Cowboys cut him? He’s not owed any money. They’ll owe him $5 million at 11:00 PM Central time on May 17. If the idiot Cowboys would be willing to pay him another $29 million to not play, some team will pony up substantially more for an experienced 32 year old well rested quarterback to play in 2025. Cousins is five years older and coming off an Achilles injury and he’s seeking in the range of $50 million per season. Someone is going to pay Dak. If the Cowboys move on from him they’ll be pinning their hopes on a guy who hasn’t played in a year and has never accomplished a thing in the NFL. All threats directed at Prescott by Cowboys fans, like we’ll just sit you if you don’t accept our offer, represent a new level of absurdity in NFL fandom.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

If he is worth so little why don’t the Cowboys cut him? He’s not owed any money. They’ll owe him $5 million at 11:00 PM Central time on May 17. If the idiot Cowboys would be willing to pay him another $29 million to not play, some team will pony up substantially more for an experienced 32 year old well rested quarterback to play in 2025. Cousins is five years older and coming off an Achilles injury and he’s seeking in the range of $50 million per season. Someone is going to pay Dak. If the Cowboys move on from him they’ll be pinning their hopes on a guy who hasn’t played in a year and has never accomplished a thing in the NFL. All threats directed at Prescott by Cowboys fans, like we’ll just sit you if you don’t accept our offer, represent a new level of absurdity in NFL fandom.

Because he’s not worth so little. He would amass a haul this offseason

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

And what age was Wilson during the season... 34. You are honestly trying to argue that 30 year old Dak and 35 year old Russel Wilson are not 5 years apart. There birthdays are 4 months apart and you want to round that up to a year. That is staggeringly dishonest.

But again when you have 17 games as the second best QB in football and a bad half, people are going to defer to the 17 over the .5, especially when factored with the fact that the defense put up a performance that no team in the history of the NFL playoffs has won from (I could not find a regular season example either but that sample size is much larger so it is possible). I still challenge anyone to find a play example (or any) when a defense gave up TDs on 6 of their first 7 possessions and won the game.

And again people would see this "benching" for what it is: a petty by incompetent owners who put ego above winning. When the offense would look worse than it has the past couple years Dak's value goes up. When the offense from top 3 in the past 3-4 years to average/below average Dak's value goes up not down. Every GM is going to basically go "hmmm we have a QB who the last season he played was undisputed top 10 QB (by their own rankings) who is going to be completely healthy and at his age we can say he will be able to sustain that for the next 4 years so lets offer 4 years 240" which is what he would have gotten anyway. The ONLY way he can lose value is if he plays and plays badly or gets injured. The Cowboys have no ability to force his value down by not playing him.

17 games?

You believe Dak earned his 60m$ for Arizona? SF? Buffalo? It wasn’t just a half of football. It was some of the biggest games, the same stuff every year. And the only reason he looked better the second half was GB was running the clock out with prevent. And even then it was really only the 4th quarter. Weren’t they laying it on more in the 3rd quarter and Dak had little response?

Whats with the pedantry? “He’s not a year younger, he’s a year and a half younger”. “It wasn’t a full game, it was 2.5-3 quarters of a game of bad play.” That doesn’t further prove either argument.