Unfortunately, get ready for ball control

[smarta5150]

the words "unfortunately" and "ball control" should never be used together.

we NEED BALL CONTROL which we've not done since.... hmmmm... thanksgiving day!

tuna & co. have grossly screwed up our offensive balance (and method of attack and not exposing our defense) and the results speak loud and clear. i don't care about short fields, fumbles, etc.

GRIND IT OUT.

Yeah I thought it was a typo also.

Accidental UN in there.

 

[31smackdown]

I thinking that..

Seattle is a "small" team... which probably means that we will try to run

BP will try to keep the defense rested... which probably means that we will try to run

There is a good chance it will be wet or raining with a light wind... which probably means that we will try to run

This team can't afford to go 3 and out without making the defense spend some energy, the threat of the run has to exist to set up play action which should work well against the backup corners

Also, with it being wet and playing backup corners, double moves should be effective..

Also they should use the outside run game to test the corners tackling and run support ability

It's not going to be 70 and sunny.. BP will revert to his late season Northeast gameplan for this one..

Oh.. and depending on where you are in the city... you can check out Blondies... good wings and no Times Square tourist crowd and high prices to deal with...

 

[DipChit]

I think BP would pound the piss out of it if he actually thought it would work. But like the other day again 9 of 10 of JJ carries were for 3 or less. 5 were 2 or less.

I mean thats just not cutting it and borders on pointless. Yeah to accomplish running for the sake of running maybe.. to keep from passing on every down.. but to think that it'd be anything close to "controlling" the game that way would be pushin it.

And that game wasnt a fluke. In 5 of the last 6 games, 11 for 40 has been the best effort.

 

[removed_20241105]

The UN in unfortunately ball control is not because I hate ball control. It's because a failed attempt at ball control (which is what he have done recently) is too punitive. If we fail, we will be behind and possibly significantly. In Seattle during the playoffs, that is a killer. The true matchup advantage is in the passing game not the running game. Our passing game can be our control over them using our screens, Witten, and taking our periodic shots deep and in th emidlle against their weak safeties. I say advantage because TO will be covered by a rookie and Crayton may be covered by Pete Hunter if Hunter isn't covering Glenn. You tell me where's the advantage and what's our best chance to move the ball. To me, I would wager we will have more success throwing than running at the beginning and it's the best way to insure we will be able to run effectively later. Running will mean we will have to win the battles between our fullbacks and TEs against Tatupa and Julian Peterson. How do you like those odds? Finally, can't you just see losing to the Hawks and complaining that it took us too long to get going? JMO. I'm ready either way for the Hawks. I wish I could be there.

 

[Doomsday]

Only problem with grinding it out is the defense has been giving up a lot of points and the running game has been extremely incosistant all season. Plus Romo seems to try and make too many plays and starts pressing when the team is behind. Not a recipe for success in my opinion.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I have a problem with it because no matter what a D is ranked we can never run the ball effectively at the start of games anyway.

Hell, yet another 10 for 30 first half effort from Jones and I might start clamoring for the Run and Shoot.

Yeah 10-30 sucks... but we need to establish the run... if for nothing else to mix it up... sometimes you dont see the success with the run from the beginning and it gets abandoned too soon... gotta establish it early so that MB3 can have his later

 

[WoodysGirl]

Only problem with grinding it out is the defense has been giving up a lot of points and the running game has been extremely incosistant all season. Plus Romo seems to try and make too many plays and starts pressing when the team is behind. Not a recipe for success in my opinion.

Ideally if they're grinding it out, they're controlling the clock, which also keeps the D off the field. And if they're grinding it out AND scoring, all the better. And then if the D is fresh and able to do what it has to do, it might go back to what it was in the first part of the season...

 

[Doomsday101]

Am I the only one who has no problem with using the running game against the #22 ranked run defense and also limiting Romos throws and potential mistakes?

Not at all, I think balance is critical to Dallas success and being able to run the ball is part of it. It takes pressure off Romo and allows the defense a chance to rest

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Ideally if they're grinding it out, they're controlling the clock, which also keeps the D off the field. And if they're grinding it out AND scoring, all the better. And then if the D is fresh and able to do what it has to do, it might go back to what it was in the first part of the season...

Exactly... just gotta mix a few scores in while running the ball to control the clock.... dont put it on the defense every chance we get... let them get a game where "just doing enough" IS ENOUGH... it could help them get back on track

 

[dboyz]

I'm fine with trying to be balanced, but I would not be afraid to attack their secondary early.

 

[DipChit]

Ideally if they're grinding it out, they're controlling the clock, which also keeps the D off the field. And if they're grinding it out AND scoring, all the better. And then if the D is fresh and able to do what it has to do, it might go back to what it was in the first part of the season...

Course "ideally" we'd have LT or LJ back there to pull it off with.

I think the best we can hope for is like what happened in the Falcons game. Once again no dice running early on but once we'd already hung 30 on em then Barber was able to break their will late in the game.

To try and just otherwise force it early on, especially this week against the Hags who are gonna play guys in the secondary who werent even on a team last week, doesnt make much sense to me. Unless in the carries he does get early on he's bustin off some 4 and 5+ yard runs. If that should actually occur, sure stay with it. Buncha 1's and 2's wont cut it though.

Not saying I dont have faith in our ability to run the ball early on but I'm pretty sure that even if it was *you* toting the rock and me and a handful of these other stooges blocking, it'd have about the same amount of success.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Course "ideally" we'd have LT or LJ back there to pull it off with.

I think the best we can hope for is like what happened in the Falcons game. Once again no dice running early on but once we'd already hung 30 on em then Barber was able to break their will late in the game.

To try and just otherwise force it early on, especially this week against the Hags who are gonna play guys in the secondary who werent even on a team last week, doesnt make much sense to me. Unless in the carries he does get early on he's bustin off some 4 and 5+ yard runs. If that should actually occur, sure stay with it. Buncha 1's and 2's wont cut it though.

I agree. The big thing is just sticking with the run. Sometimes I feel like too many possessions are short-circuited because all the play calls are pass plays. 1-2 yd runs won't cut it, but neither does back to back incompletions with long 3rd downs.

Not saying I dont have faith in our ability to run the ball early on but I'm pretty sure that even if it was *you* toting the rock and me and a handful of these other stooges blocking, it'd have about the same amount of success.

Hey, but I've got wiggle.

 

[chinch]

I'm fine with trying to be balanced, but I would not be afraid to attack their secondary early.

that is half our offensive problem. we're trying to "ball control" (with 1-2 yard runs due to our OL) then we throw DEEP and make low-percentage passes. if they strike, like the TO TD last week, it chews up only 4-5 plays, 2 minutes and our tired D then goes on the field and gives up a FG at least, and lately a TD.

we should be using ball control and quick slants to have LONG sustained drives. Short throws on 1st down then Run, Run. wear down the D completely by the 3rd period.

 

[aikemirv]

Not only does Romo have too much confidence in himself, I believe that BP has too much confidence in Romo.

We did abandon the run in the Philly game and in the Detroit game when the situations did not call for it.

I for one want to establish the running game and get Romo in the 3rd and 5 and under situations and stop letting these Dlineman tee off on him and flat out rush him all the time.

 

[superpunk]

Ball control gets me hot.

Unfortunately, nothing.

 

[peplaw06]

I would LOVE to see the TOP be 12 minutes for the Cowboys in the 1st quarter as opposed to the other way around.

TOP in 1st quarter last 4 games...

DET - 9:52
DAL - 5:08

PHI - 8:49
DAL - 6:01

ATL - 4:57
DAL - 10:03 (WIN)

NO - 11:41
DAL - 3:19

Ball control?? Yes please.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I would LOVE to see the TOP be 12 minutes for the Cowboys in the 1st quarter as opposed to the other way around.

TOP in 1st quarter last 4 games...

DET - 9:52
DAL - 5:08

PHI - 8:49
DAL - 6:01

ATL - 4:57
DAL - 10:03 (WIN)

NO - 11:41
DAL - 3:19

Ball control?? Yes please.

Exactly... ball control with KNOWING that you can be explosive on offense is the way to go... if you just come out and try and be explosive without mixing it up is NOT as effective.

We could really be a force...

 

[Maikeru-sama]

This game will be a shootout.

We have played cruppy run defenses before and still didnt exploint that weakness.

The run game is suffering and I expect a shootout.

I would rather put the game in Romo's hands then Barber/Jones.

This is not going to be a 10-3 type of game.

We are going to need points and lots of them.

- Mike G.

 

[Doomsday101]

This game will be a shootout.

We have played cruppy run defenses before and still didnt exploint that weakness.

The run game is suffering and I expect a shootout.

I would rather put the game in Romo's hands then Barber/Jones.

This is not going to be a 10-3 type of game.

We are going to need points and lots of them.

- Mike G.

Which means this will end up a 10-3 game. :laugh2:

 

[Bleu Star]

My 2 cents:

By now, Tuna must be terrified of getting West Coasted with these dink and dunkers like Brees, Garcia, and Kitna. The temptation is for us to take advantage of the injured secondary of the Hawks but I fear the old ground tuna is coming. There is no way he wants to give Hasselback the chance to post 40 points on us. I am not afraid of embarassment though. After the last few weeks, what's another defensive decapitation. I hope we do go 3 wide + Witten and see if we can't put Seattle in catch up mode where we can afford to tear after Hasselback.

Good luck the BOYS. BTW, I will be in NYC for the game and would appreciate any recommendations for good a good bar to watch it in.

Adams, Kosier, Gurode, Rivera, Colombo....... we talk much shizzle on this board but it will come down to you guys. BUMS or STUDS?? We'll see.

I hope we jam it down their throats with a good mix of run to JJ & MB3 combined with some nice passes to both in the flats as well. Hit the receivers occasionally and eat clock by killing em on the ground. One can only hope...