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He got himself a heavy hitter lawyer, Thomas Demetrio. Same lawyer that got the billion dollar settlement from the NFL/NHL on the concussion lawsuit, among many other big dollar lawsuits. Dude's getting paid.
 
He got himself a heavy hitter lawyer, Thomas Demetrio. Same lawyer that got the billion dollar settlement from the NFL/NHL on the concussion lawsuit, among many other big dollar lawsuits. Dude's getting paid.


Did you see that press conference.

The lawyer was sooooo happy.

"Yes, sir, what's your question" (kool aid smile vibe and enthusiasm)
"Yes, your name, yes yes ask your question" (kool aid smile vibe and enthusiasm)

Etc
Etc..


The more I think about the more I think.... once he resisted that he brings this down on himself.
Too much damage done to him in the process.

United could probably win the case... but I think they just settle.

I'm gonna start flying with united loyally.
 
Did you see that press conference.

The lawyer was sooooo happy.

"Yes, sir, what's your question" (kool aid smile vibe and enthusiasm)
"Yes, your name, yes yes ask your question" (kool aid smile vibe and enthusiasm)

Etc
Etc..


The more I think about the more I think.... once he resisted that he brings this down on himself.
Too much damage done to him in the process.

United could probably win the case... but I think they just settle.

I'm gonna start flying with united loyally.

It is sounding like his list of ailments is growing suspiciously long.....broken teeth, busted nose, concussion, needing reconstructive surgery. He and those who were picked to leave the plane certainly got shafted but I still don't think he has the right to squat and refuse to leave. Poor customer service by United, granted, but I would think calling the police to remove someone is the proper protocol in this situation. United doesn't control how the police choose to handle the situation from there.

I could see him getting a bunch of free flights to cover United's culpability up to the point security took over. After that, the situation escalated and he played a role in that IMO
 
except in this case it wasn't overbooking. the flight was full and going to take off. united had 4 crew they needed in the destination city that night for a flight the next morning. they needed to make room for their crew so they were going to eject 4 people from their seats.

i hate overbooking for obvious reasons, but this is just united kicking off paying passengers cause they need the room for themselves.
Exactly! That's what everyone is missing! When I first heard about the story and heard the passenger's attitude and responses, I was on the airline's side. Once I learned they were only bumping people to make room for their own people, that all changed. Airlines have deals with each other to provide discounted tickets on open flights with each other, so United should have just booked their people on a different airline's flight and the problem would have been solved.
 
Did you see that press conference.

The lawyer was sooooo happy.

"Yes, sir, what's your question" (kool aid smile vibe and enthusiasm)
"Yes, your name, yes yes ask your question" (kool aid smile vibe and enthusiasm)

Etc
Etc..


The more I think about the more I think.... once he resisted that he brings this down on himself.
Too much damage done to him in the process.

United could probably win the case... but I think they just settle.

I'm gonna start flying with united loyally.
Doubt the Airlines could win, they broke several of their own policies, United doesn't have a leg to stand on. That is why the CEO finally after several statements, issued a "true" apology and admitted the customer was NOT at fault. The CEO didn't back track his initial statements of backing the companies policies and of the employees because he felt it was the right thing to do. I guarantee he backtracked due to advice from their own legal counsel. They know it isn't winnable and want to try to settle as soon as possible. It also doesn't help their case when the Aviation Security Office in Chicago also stated that the incident was not within standard operating procedures and will not be tolerated.

It's a longshot, but Demetrio may be considering a class action lawsuit against Airlines business practices. There are no shortage of airline horror stories or suspect business practices. He was happy about the slam dunk case, but that big smile you saw was him dreaming of a huggggge class action lawsuit against the airlines. He may not pursue that, but you gotta know he's thinking about it.
 
It is sounding like his list of ailments is growing suspiciously long.....broken teeth, busted nose, concussion, needing reconstructive surgery. He and those who were picked to leave the plane certainly got shafted but I still don't think he has the right to squat and refuse to leave. Poor customer service by United, granted, but I would think calling the police to remove someone is the proper protocol in this situation. United doesn't control how the police choose to handle the situation from there.

I could see him getting a bunch of free flights to cover United's culpability up to the point security took over. After that, the situation escalated and he played a role in that IMO


Yeah, that list is growing. I was laughing when he said reconstructive.

I think he gets more than free flights.



Exactly! That's what everyone is missing! When I first heard about the story and heard the passenger's attitude and responses, I was on the airline's side. Once I learned they were only bumping people to make room for their own people, that all changed. Airlines have deals with each other to provide discounted tickets on open flights with each other, so United should have just booked their people on a different airline's flight and the problem would have been solved.


Agreed.

It's funny... I've seen those fold down seats for flight attendants. Maybe an extra 4 should be standard.







Doubt the Airlines could win, they broke several of their own policies, United doesn't have a leg to stand on. That is why the CEO finally after several statements, issued a "true" apology and admitted the customer was NOT at fault. The CEO didn't back track his initial statements of backing the companies policies and of the employees because he felt it was the right thing to do. I guarantee he backtracked due to advice from their own legal counsel. They know it isn't winnable and want to try to settle as soon as possible. It also doesn't help their case when the Aviation Security Office in Chicago also stated that the incident was not within standard operating procedures and will not be tolerated.

It's a longshot, but Demetrio may be considering a class action lawsuit against Airlines business practices. There are no shortage of airline horror stories or suspect business practices. He was happy about the slam dunk case, but that big smile you saw was him dreaming of a huggggge class action lawsuit against the airlines. He may not pursue that, but you gotta know he's thinking about it.


It is messy.
And... the court of public opinion kills a possible win.

But lawyer friends of mine think it's possible,
Listen... after OJ... anything is possible.

But... the airlines really lose... if they were to go for the win.
 
There is a difference between overbooked and fully booked. Since the plane was only fully booked the airlines had a binding contract with the victim and had no right to force him off the plane.

United lost before they even get to a court room.
 
He was told to get off the plane. He didn't comply. What did he expect?
what part of excessive force do you not understand? Even the cops end of this already admit they did not follow procedure. As a matter of fact the airlines and all the rest have already admitted they were wrong.
 
What you do is increase the payout. If only two people leave for $800 then increase it up to $1000 and then $2000, eventually someone will accept.

There have been payouts of $10k or more. I've personally received $1500 cash voucher from American Airlines plus hotel and meals voucher hehehehe.
 
what part of excessive force do you not understand? Even the cops end of this already admit they did not follow procedure. As a matter of fact the airlines and all the rest have already admitted they were wrong.
You are 100 percent correct. Even if he refuses to leave you are not allowed to give him a concussion,a broken rib, two broken teeth, and a bloody nose. If you refuse to leave my bar, I cannot send my goons to bust you up, tase you, beat you with a bat, and curb stomp you. That would be excessive. Besides all they had to do was offer more money until someone volunteered.
 
The airline has already lost big. They will lose big again in court. This was not an unruly passenger, but a person with rights and a bought and paid for ticket and a right to his seat...the airline used goon and illegal tactics. There are rules and the airline refused to employ them.
 
what part of excessive force do you not understand? Even the cops end of this already admit they did not follow procedure. As a matter of fact the airlines and all the rest have already admitted they were wrong.

How do you get the man off the plane then? He got hurt because he resisted physically.
 
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He got himself a heavy hitter lawyer, Thomas Demetrio. Same lawyer that got the billion dollar settlement from the NFL/NHL on the concussion lawsuit, among many other big dollar lawsuits. Dude's getting paid.


What an ***.
 
You are 100 percent correct. Even if he refuses to leave you are not allowed to give him a concussion,a broken rib, two broken teeth, and a bloody nose. If you refuse to leave my bar, I cannot send my goons to bust you up, tase you, beat you with a bat, and curb stomp you. That would be excessive. Besides all they had to do was offer more money until someone volunteered.


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How do you get the man off the plane then? He got hurt because he resisted physically.

You don't get him off the plane. There were no procedural or legal reasons to get him off of the plane. All of this should have occurred before anyone was allowed to board the plane. United blew it.
 
I'm on United Airlines side on this. They have the right to ask any passenger they wish to debark any time they wish as long as they are offering the full reimbursement. The rest was done by airport security not the United Airlines. When you resist law enforcement, you are going to get beat until you comply. I won't feel sorry for you either.
 
Funny thing, I just watched this movie tonight. Great movie.


Cologero is Chaz "Sonny" Palminteri. It's his life growing up in the Bronx.

Calogero Lorenzo "Chazz" Palminteri ........... "Lorenzo the bus driver"

Those events are his life.

"Put him the fudgin bathroooom"
 
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