University of Phoenix buys naming rights to Cards stadium

[AbeBeta]

I can tell you that in the corporate world I'm in one of those degrees is worth less than the paper its written on. We've had several people apply for jobs with online degrees and we never even bring them in for interviews.

Although I don't particularly like the idea of an on-line degree, the sort of thinking you describe is very outdated. There are a number of very good and increasingly prestigious online programs now - Hell, Harvard now offers a number of online degree options. Might be time for your company to get a bit more current on their thinking.

 

[bbgun]

Was "Devry Stadium" taken?

 

[Crown Royal]

University of Texas at Arlington Stadium

 

[peplaw06]

That isn't true -- there are only a few accrediting bodies for universities.

The National Council for Higher Education Accreditation consists of 19 Institutional Accrediting Organizations and 62 Specialized Accrediting Organizations, and those are just accrediting organizations approved by the US Department of Education. At this site is a list of 35 accrediting bodies not recognized...

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/N...90_7.pdf#search="non-accredited universities"

 

[Idgit]

Although I don't particularly like the idea of an on-line degree, the sort of thinking you describe is very outdated. There are a number of very good and increasingly prestigious online programs now - Hell, Harvard now offers a number of online degree options. Might be time for your company to get a bit more current on their thinking.

Online education is a really beneficial phenomenon. While it won't and shouldn't take the place of traditional offline education, it's great for people who are interested in bettering themselves where they might not otherwise have the flexibility or the option of doing so via a traditional degree.

It's also great for continuing education requirements, and for executive education programs where a small amount of focussed information can be helpful to continued career development, but matriculation is not necessarily a requirement.

Husbands and wives of servicemen and women stationed overseas is another example of 10s of thousands of people who can better their career options via following an online curriculum.

In my opinion, it's foolish to disregard a resume just because you don't like the name of the school, or understand the requirements of the program. You can miss out on a lot of talented, committed, and resourceful people that way.

Perhaps UofP should offer online courses in HR management.

 

[peplaw06]

Although I don't particularly like the idea of an on-line degree, the sort of thinking you describe is very outdated. There are a number of very good and increasingly prestigious online programs now - Hell, Harvard now offers a number of online degree options. Might be time for your company to get a bit more current on their thinking.

I think there's a difference between a University with an established reputation for superior on-campus/ on-site education offering online degree options and a university that was recently established and grew mainly because of their online program. Like it or not, there is a negative connotation with online degrees. This reaction though may be combatted by having a online degree from an institution like Harvard as opposed to the University of Phoenix.

 

[peplaw06]

In my opinion, it's foolish to disregard a resume just because you don't like the name of the school, or understand the requirements of the program. You can miss out on a lot of talented, committed, and resourceful people that way.

I believe that attitude is changing, but you can't deny that it's there. Trust me, human resource departments miss out on talented, committed, and resourceful people all the time, because they recognize the reputation of a university. It's a fact of life. It may be foolish, but it happens.

 

[superpunk]

Online education is a really beneficial phenomenon. While it won't and shouldn't take the place of traditional offline education, it's great for people who are interested in bettering themselves where they might not otherwise have the flexibility or the option of doing so via a traditional degree.

It's also great for continuing education requirements, and for executive education programs where a small amount of focussed information can be helpful to continued career development, but matriculation is not necessarily a requirement.

Husbands and wives of servicemen and women stationed overseas is another example of 10s of thousands of people who can better their career options via following an online curriculum.

In my opinion, it's foolish to disregard a resume just because you don't like the name of the school, or understand the requirements of the program. You can miss out on a lot of talented, committed, and resourceful people that way.

Perhaps UofP should offer online courses in HR management.

Technology has advanced to the point where there is almost no drop-off from traditional college instruction and on-line. I went to college to get my BS in Civil Engineering Technology, but ended up getting a full-time job doing the engineering, I just can't sign plans. So, I decided to look into local opportunities. Turned out Old Dominion has a fully equippped online program. Every class is live broadcast through an internet stream, and I can ask any questions I want and the instructor instantly sees them on his screen. This will allow me to finish my schooling so that I can get board certified sooner than the otherwise obligatory 12 years of service(even then it's nearly impossible)

I agree. It's extremely outdated and ridiculous to dismiss ALL online degrees out of hand. My diploma is coming from an actual college (as abersonc talked about with harvard) graduation and all, if I want to make the trip down there. It's actually really awesome.

 

[AbeBeta]

The National Council for Higher Education Accreditation consists of 19 Institutional Accrediting Organizations and 62 Specialized Accrediting Organizations, and those are just accrediting organizations approved by the US Department of Education. At this site is a list of 35 accrediting bodies not recognized...

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/N...90_7.pdf#search="non-accredited universities"

19 institutional accreditors -- that's not many when you consider the # of colleges and universities and the detail that goes into those accredidation review. I'd love to see a uni call itself "accredited" if its only accredidation is from a non-recognized body.

 

[AbeBeta]

I think there's a difference between a University with an established reputation for superior on-campus/ on-site education offering online degree options and a university that was recently established and grew mainly because of their online program. Like it or not, there is a negative connotation with online degrees. This reaction though may be combatted by having a online degree from an institution like Harvard as opposed to the University of Phoenix.

Sure -- but my point was that on-line doesn't mean bad. Folks need to seriously evaluate the type of education the student received rather than the medium.

The quality of the institution always does and always should make a huge difference.

 

[AbeBeta]

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/N...90_7.pdf#search="non-accredited universities"

That list of universities is hilarious. About 50% of those schools are named things that are very very close to real schools.

 

[AbeBeta]

Technology has advanced to the point where there is almost no drop-off from traditional college instruction and on-line. I went to college to get my BS in Civil Engineering Technology, but ended up getting a full-time job doing the engineering, I just can't sign plans. So, I decided to look into local opportunities. Turned out Old Dominion has a fully equippped online program. Every class is live broadcast through an internet stream, and I can ask any questions I want and the instructor instantly sees them on his screen. This will allow me to finish my schooling so that I can get board certified sooner than the otherwise obligatory 12 years of service(even then it's nearly impossible)

Thanks Punk -- I think some folks don't really understand the online idea - usually when you tell folks about stuff like this they say "wow, really? I thought you just typed stuff"

 

[peplaw06]

19 institutional accreditors -- that's not many when you consider the # of colleges and universities and the detail that goes into those accredidation review. I'd love to see a uni call itself "accredited" if its only accredidation is from a non-recognized body.

Go look at that list... there's 12 pages of them.

 

[peplaw06]

That list of universities is hilarious. About 50% of those schools are named things that are very very close to real schools.

I got a kick out of that too. Here are my favorites...

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1052594&postcount=30

 

[AbeBeta]

Go look at that list... there's 12 pages of them.

I guess it depends on your definition - in my field you either are accredited by one of the real ones or you aren't accredited - of course, I work at a university so we know real from fake. I can see how an employer might be fooled. But then again, if a degree is so important but they are dumb enough not to check.....

 

[WoodysGirl]

POSTED 8:15 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 8:47 p.m. EDT, September 26, 2006

NO PINK TACOS, AFTER ALL

Weeks after spurning an offer from the Pink Taco restaurant chain to slap its name on their new stadium, the Arizona Cardinals have sold the naming rights to their new digs for a whopping $154 million over 20 years to the University of Phoenix.

The deal has an average value of $7.7 million per year.

The "University" has 323,000 students, most of whom get their education over the Internet. It has no football team.

Frankly, we can't understand why the Cardinals turned up their beaks at the interest displayed by Pink Taco, but then jumped into bed with a company at which most college grads turn up their noses. Experts have characterized the school as having a "poor academic reputation," and have observed that the criticism of the University of Phoenix by traditional institutions has been "relentless."

In 2004, the University of Phoenix paid $9.8 million to resolve U.S. Department of Education allegations that the school threatened and intimidated its recruitment staff, pressuring employees to enroll unqualified students and taking steps to cover up the alleged misdeeds.

Apart from the stigma attached in some circles to the "University of Phoenix" moniker, we wonder whether the Cardinals (and the NFL, for that matter) considered the potential impact of the arrangement on the league's ever-tenuous relationship with the NCAA institutions from which pro football harvests talent. The NFL and its franchises usually bend over backwards to keep the "real" colleges happy; now, one of the 32 teams is allowing the scourge of the bricks-and-mortar institutions to gain instant national credibility.

The irony here is that the truly legitimate and credible business, Pink Taco, was rejected without negotiation presumably because the Cardinals deemed the name of the company to be undesirable. So instead the Cardinals hopped into bed with a business bearing a more vanilla moniker -- but that could do far more harm to the broader interests of the league than the "Pink Taco" label ever could.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

uh, NFL zone?

 

[peplaw06]

POSTED 8:15 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 8:47 p.m. EDT, September 26, 2006

NO PINK TACOS, AFTER ALL

Weeks after spurning an offer from the Pink Taco restaurant chain to slap its name on their new stadium, the Arizona Cardinals have sold the naming rights to their new digs for a whopping $154 million over 20 years to the University of Phoenix.

The deal has an average value of $7.7 million per year.

The "University" has 323,000 students, most of whom get their education over the Internet. It has no football team.

Frankly, we can't understand why the Cardinals turned up their beaks at the interest displayed by Pink Taco, but then jumped into bed with a company at which most college grads turn up their noses. Experts have characterized the school as having a "poor academic reputation," and have observed that the criticism of the University of Phoenix by traditional institutions has been "relentless."

In 2004, the University of Phoenix paid $9.8 million to resolve U.S. Department of Education allegations that the school threatened and intimidated its recruitment staff, pressuring employees to enroll unqualified students and taking steps to cover up the alleged misdeeds.

Apart from the stigma attached in some circles to the "University of Phoenix" moniker, we wonder whether the Cardinals (and the NFL, for that matter) considered the potential impact of the arrangement on the league's ever-tenuous relationship with the NCAA institutions from which pro football harvests talent. The NFL and its franchises usually bend over backwards to keep the "real" colleges happy; now, one of the 32 teams is allowing the scourge of the bricks-and-mortar institutions to gain instant national credibility.

The irony here is that the truly legitimate and credible business, Pink Taco, was rejected without negotiation presumably because the Cardinals deemed the name of the company to be undesirable. So instead the Cardinals hopped into bed with a business bearing a more vanilla moniker -- but that could do far more harm to the broader interests of the league than the "Pink Taco" label ever could.

I know it's PFT, so I take it with a grain of salt, but this article about U of P and their practices doesn't really surprise me. Thanks WG.

What I don't understand is how they are allowed to keep their accreditation status if they're taking unqualified students and covering it up, and the US DOE has basically prosecuted them.

 

[CactusCowboy]

It is a joke. This is a crooked, boiler room operation at best. Arizona Cards can mess up anything, even a brand new stadium opening.