Update on Randle El Contract.

[SultanOfSix]

I'll believe you if you can show me where the 49ers violated the cap.

I really don't care if you believe me or not. Do your own research for once. I'm not your babysitter.

 

[xpistofer]

Love how you guys are so concerned with what we're doing

love your sig...that's hilarious.
(wouldn't be funny if it wasn't partially true...)

kudos to your team's significant upgrades this FA...
At the moment I think you are a bit further down the road than we are.

 

[Way 'nuff]

I really don't care if you believe me or not. Do your own research for once. I'm not your babysitter.

Ah. You sure acted like it until I called you on your conspiracy theory.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'll believe you if you can show me where the 49ers violated the cap.

Please.

I suppose that if I tell you the world isn't flat you will make me prove that also.

 

[Way 'nuff]

Please.

I suppose that if I tell you the world isn't flat you will make me prove that also.

Still waiting.

Look, I'll gladly eat crow and fess up to being wrong if someone would just step up with a reliable source. I don't have a problem with agreeing with Cowboys fans.

 

[Basileus777]

Salary Cap cheating does occur, the Broncos did it during their superbowl run. They even had draft picks stripped away from them.

 

[kingwhicker]

Jeevus, Way'Nuff makes NedK tolerable.

 

[Bluefin]

I'll believe you if you can show me where the 49ers violated the cap.

NFL Fines Former 49ers Executive $400,00 for Salary Cap Violations

Lenient penalty results in criticism by owners


New York, December 7, 2000 - Giants co-owner, Wellington Mara, spoke out in anger over the settlement that the NFL reached with former 49ers executives Carmen Policy and Dwight Clark over their alleged violation of the salary cap in 1997. Under the terms of the deal, Policy was fined $400,000 and Clark was fined $200,000. The 49ers will also have to pay a $300,000 fine and give up a 5th round draft choice in 2001 and a 3rd round choice in 2002.

Mara apparently became upset after Policy refused to admit any wrongdoing in the matter. Mara has since accused Policy of lying to the NFL Management Council Executive Committee about the allegations. Mara issued a statement in which he said, "of all those present, not one believed what [Policy] said." Mara added that the group then agreed that Policy "should give a deposition under oath as soon as possible," but Policy "declined to be sworn in and instead began negotiating the settlement,." according to Long Island Newsday.

Others weighed in on the situation in varying degrees of agreement with Mara and also thought the settlement let the 49ers off too easy. New Orleans Saints' Owner Tom Benson, on the settlement: "It's good that we're going to get a lot stricter on this stuff, but I wish we'd had a policy in place that would have made this ruling stiffer ... But the new agreement [giving the commissioner broad powers] should be a deterrent. At least I hope it is." Another NFL team owner was quoted as saying, "I think they (Policy and Clark) got away with murder."

National Football League Players' Association Executive Director Gene Upshaw said, "I don't think (the 49ers) got off light . . . The other owners around the league will make a lot of noise, but they've got to look at what was there. They might have wanted more authority from the commissioner, but it wasn't there,"

In comparison with the NBA's recent actions against the Minnesota Timberwolves, the NFL action is quite light and, in a typical settlement-type agreement, stipulated that neither Policy or Clark admit to any wrongdoing.

In addition to the penalties levied against the 49ers and their former executives, agents Leigh Steinberg, Jeff Moorad and Gary Wichard, who represented quarterback Jim Druckenmiller, linebacker Woodall, quarterback Steve Young and tight end Brent Jones, received "substantial" fines. It was reported that Steinberg, who represented Young and Jones, will pay a fine of $250,000, while Wichard, who represented Druckenmiller, will pay $100,000. The money is "going to league and union designated charities."

Nate Allen

 

[SultanOfSix]

Not only are some 'Skins fans dumb, they're foolish. I'll cherish your request because I hate ignorance in general:

http://www.sportslawnews.com/archive/Articles 2000/Policysalarycappenalty.htm

That's just one article I found after searching on google for like 5 seconds. Do you need help reading that as well? I can send an audio tape.

 

[Way 'nuff]

Jeevus, Way'Nuff makes NedK tolerable.

What, because I want people to back up their claims?

Bluefin, thanks for the article, I stand corrected.

 

[1fisher]

Love how you guys are so concerned with what we're doing

............and we love how you are here lurking on our board! go on back to ES....:laugh2:

 

[big dog cowboy]

NFL Fines Former 49ers Executive $400,00 for Salary Cap Violations

Lenient penalty results in criticism by owners


New York, December 7, 2000 - Giants co-owner, Wellington Mara, spoke out in anger over the settlement that the NFL reached with former 49ers executives Carmen Policy and Dwight Clark over their alleged violation of the salary cap in 1997. Under the terms of the deal, Policy was fined $400,000 and Clark was fined $200,000. The 49ers will also have to pay a $300,000 fine and give up a 5th round draft choice in 2001 and a 3rd round choice in 2002.

Mara apparently became upset after Policy refused to admit any wrongdoing in the matter. Mara has since accused Policy of lying to the NFL Management Council Executive Committee about the allegations. Mara issued a statement in which he said, "of all those present, not one believed what [Policy] said." Mara added that the group then agreed that Policy "should give a deposition under oath as soon as possible," but Policy "declined to be sworn in and instead began negotiating the settlement,." according to Long Island Newsday.

Others weighed in on the situation in varying degrees of agreement with Mara and also thought the settlement let the 49ers off too easy. New Orleans Saints' Owner Tom Benson, on the settlement: "It's good that we're going to get a lot stricter on this stuff, but I wish we'd had a policy in place that would have made this ruling stiffer ... But the new agreement [giving the commissioner broad powers] should be a deterrent. At least I hope it is." Another NFL team owner was quoted as saying, "I think they (Policy and Clark) got away with murder."

National Football League Players' Association Executive Director Gene Upshaw said, "I don't think (the 49ers) got off light . . . The other owners around the league will make a lot of noise, but they've got to look at what was there. They might have wanted more authority from the commissioner, but it wasn't there,"

In comparison with the NBA's recent actions against the Minnesota Timberwolves, the NFL action is quite light and, in a typical settlement-type agreement, stipulated that neither Policy or Clark admit to any wrongdoing.

In addition to the penalties levied against the 49ers and their former executives, agents Leigh Steinberg, Jeff Moorad and Gary Wichard, who represented quarterback Jim Druckenmiller, linebacker Woodall, quarterback Steve Young and tight end Brent Jones, received "substantial" fines. It was reported that Steinberg, who represented Young and Jones, will pay a fine of $250,000, while Wichard, who represented Druckenmiller, will pay $100,000. The money is "going to league and union designated charities."

Nate Allen

That needs a bump.

 

[btcutter]

Love how every time I come here I see frustrated Cowboy fans wondering how Dan gets away with it.

Sorry Jerry isn't on top of his game anymore.

When was the last time the Skin heads were in any championship game?
I don't see getting Deion, Bruce Smith and all the high price FA did for the team?

BTW, FA is it for the Skins.....they practically can sit out the draft this yr.

 

[vicjagger]

Yep, Pitt wasn't too happy with Randle El when he filled in as #2 for Burress in 04 or for the entire year last year, basically Quincy Morgan and Cedric Wilson were coming up with bigger plays and Wilson really became the true #2 option.

You are full of Shinola.

I live in western PA and have watched this guy for years. Pittsburgh loved him. They are very dissapointed to loose him, and for the next 6 years, Cowboys fans will be equally dissapointed that he's now a Commander.

 

[JohnnY]

Actually, it isn't a surprise to me because of two reasons.... 1. It's the Commanders and 2. They have done this before....anybody remember Chad Morton?

How about Santana Moss? Basically the same situation a year ago my friends. And btw, do not confuse the Chad Morton thing with this. This is under the 2nd Gibbs era, there is a huge difference, HUGE!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I stand corrected.

what's with skinfans and being corrected everytime? I mean, EVERY time

it's like shooting fish in the barrel with you guys, it's too easy

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Sorry Jerry isn't on top of his game anymore.

uh, look at our cap situation, Jerry has gone from a terribly run cap situation, to a very good one, while Danny BOy still has to constantly adjust his cap

btw, we paid alot of money to much better players last year, we spent 30 mil in bonus money, something Danny Boy will never be able to do for awhile...

 

[aznhalf]

How about Santana Moss? Basically the same situation a year ago my friends. And btw, do not confuse the Chad Morton thing with this. This is under the 2nd Gibbs era, there is a huge difference, HUGE!

You know, just because you say theres a huge difference doesn't mean there is. Where is your objective proof?

And next person who says "Gibbs brings such a team atmosphere" and then alludes to those players willing to restructure needs to get banned. MILLIONS of dollars are at stake, the NFL is a business. Anyone with a tertiary job would know that when it comes down to that amount money you're looking out for yourself first. You put too much stock in humanity if you think otherwise, period. Players restructure because they get more guranteed money upfront. There is very little downside for them to restructure, and contrary to some peoples beliefs these players are not putting money on the back of their contract to help the team. They get the same amount and they get it sooner.

 

[Way 'nuff]

When was the last time the Skin heads were in any championship game?
I don't see getting Deion, Bruce Smith and all the high price FA did for the team?

BTW, FA is it for the Skins.....they practically can sit out the draft this yr.

Come on man. Don't you have any better material than players we signed 6 years ago?