News: Update: Wes Phillips leaves Cowboys to join Commanders staff

[theebs]

Their best receiver was an all-Pro in Vincent Jackson, who played a full 16 game season and caught 78 receptions. The next best receiver was at 54 receptions and didn't break 66 yards. John Garrett's special project, Kevein Ogletree had 8 receptions here.

John Garrett had Witten, an already established HoF TE. Outside of that, during his tenure, we drafted Hanna and also had Bennett, whom apparently wasn't used at all outside of blocking. While your right, TE may not have been a problem with Witten here, John Garrett surely wasn't bringing anything to the table, especially to be promoted to 'passing game coordinator'.

Right.

there was no reason for him to be fired here last year. He hasn't done any better or any worse than anyone else here.

Did wes Phillips get anymore out of the tight ends?

Blaming john garrett for Bennett is silly. Bennett came in a goofy kid who thought he was a celebrity and looked out to lunch most of the time. there is a reason mike pope and tom coughlin didn't retain Bennett either.

John's background is as a wr and he coached wr in the past. So his passing game coordinator title wasn't a big deal to me.

 

[khiladi]

Right.

there was no reason for him to be fired here last year. He hasn't done any better or any worse than anyone else here.

Did wes Phillips get anymore out of the tight ends?

Blaming john garrett for Bennett is silly. Bennett came in a goofy kid who thought he was a celebrity and looked out to lunch most of the time. there is a reason mike pope and tom coughlin didn't retain Bennett either.

John's background is as a wr and he coached wr in the past. So his passing game coordinator title wasn't a big deal to me.

Wes Phillips isn't close to as experienced coaching as John is, he just started. Which was really my point? A kid is just as good, if not better, than John. Kevin Ogletree wouldn't have lasted anywhere outside of this place, where brother John was the passing game coordinator and John's pet project.

 

[theebs]

Wes Phillips isn't close to as experienced coaching as John is, he just started. Which was really my point? A kid is just as good, if not better, than John. Kevin Ogletree wouldn't have lasted anywhere outside of this place, where brother John was the passing game coordinator and John's pet project.

It will be pretty fun if they hire him back as tight ends coach.

 

[Stash]

Lol.

What universe are you living in that the NFC franchise from Maryland is a step up from Dallas?

A universe in which three years of 8-8 isn't acceptable.

You wouldn't know anything about it.

 

[FLcowboy]

Can't blame him. Why should his career be derailed?

Staying in Dallas would seem to be less of a derailment than going to Washington. IMO

 

[Stash]

Staying in Dallas would seem to be less of a derailment than going to Washington. IMO

I wouldn't call either one ideal myself.

 

[WoodysGirl]

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

A universe in which three years of 8-8 isn't acceptable.

You wouldn't know anything about it.

That 8-8 over the last three years is still Two more wins than the Skins had over the same time frame.

So...How is it a step up and you throw out the record really kind of defeats your own argument.

 

[Stash]

That 8-8 over the last three years is still Two more wins than the Skins had over the same time frame.

So...How is it a step up and you throw out the record really kind of defeats your own argument.

See post above. I stated I wouldn't consider either ideal.

But with the new hire, the Commanders may at least have some reason for optimism, unlike Dallas.

 

[visionary]

It will be pretty fun if they hire him back as tight ends coach.

yep
would be funny just like bleeding out from an ulcer is funny

 

[KingintheNorth]

One untalented family down, two to go.

 

[visionary]

One untalented family down, two to go.

co-sign
we are the poster child for nepotism

i have been told by my source (the liquor store clerk) that several third world despots send their representatives to dallas so they can copy off the model (they wish they were as good)

 

[Setackin]

Good for him
TE coach assistant Oline coach and did some work with wrs...

He's getting a good education. And apparently he is a good coach he has survived here for like 6 yrs when everyone else gets fired lol

 

[speedkilz88]

Wes Phillips isn't close to as experienced coaching as John is, he just started. Which was really my point? A kid is just as good, if not better, than John. Kevin Ogletree wouldn't have lasted anywhere outside of this place, where brother John was the passing game coordinator and John's pet project.

Kevin Ogletree is playing in Detroit.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

Kevin Ogletree is playing in Detroit.

So? Doesn't mean he's any good.

 

[Corso]

co-sign
we are the poster child for nepotism

i have been told by my source (the liquor store clerk) that several third world despots send their representatives to dallas so they can copy off the model (they wish they were as good)

Like Kim Jong feeding his Uncle to the dogs.
Wait... that's the opposite.
This team should be feeding some of it's people to the dogs.

Sorry- that was insensitive.
I post anyway!

 

[Corso]

So? Doesn't mean he's any good.

He didn't say he was good.
He was pointing out the fallacy of that statement he was responding to.

Ya know what I's be sayin' mon?
Keep it Irie.

 

[khiladi]

Kevin Ogletree is playing in Detroit.

Now, cause Tampa got rid of him, for his impressive 8 catches. He was even more impressive in Detroit, in 12 games, he had a whopping 13 receptions.

Only in the Garrett-world would they try and make this guy almost akin to the second receiver.

 

[khiladi]

Btw, he played four years in Dallas and did nothing. He came with John Garrett and John took him to Tampa, when Jerry essentially told John, bye-bye. Of course that was spun as John wanting to pursue better opportunities, but please... Every other coach bounced out of here had some alleged problem, like Rob Ryan sleeping in meetings or some nonsense regarding Sherman and also Peete.

 

[jobberone]

This is full of assumptions and we all know what happens when people assume things...
Jerry is the King of Hype and he would already be declaring him the next best thing. I stand by what I say. It's not a big deal either way. It doesn't hurt my feelings to see him go.

What does Jerry have to do with Wes Phillips' coaching ability or lack thereof?