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[Juke99]

Who was it that said "if your playing two, you don't have one."?

I think that was you.

See, look...right here...:signmast:

 

[Sarge]

Oh and he's a great third down back too...

But Coach Flintstone has gone on and on about how in today's NFL, you can't do it with just one back anymore.

Tell that to Willie Parker.

Tell that to Frank Gore.

Tell that to Steven Jackson.

Tell that to Ronnie Brown.

Tell that to Willis McGahee.

Tell that to Thomas Jones

Tell that to Kevin Jones.

Tell that to Edgerrin James.

Tell that to LaDainian Tomlinson.

I could go on but I'm getting carpal tunnel.

Parcells is an idiot.

 

[jimmy40]

I think that was you.

See, look...right here...:signmast:

No really, some NFL coach said this a long time ago.

 

[burmafrd]

Take JJ of his rookie year and put him in this year and he gets 1200-1500 yds.
the robot we now have I hope can be freed one way or another. If not then I blame BP for messing him up.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Hindsight my arse. In the chatroom, we were all rooting our nuggets off for Steven Jackson when we were on the clock........not after...........and what do we do..................pass right over him......................no hindsight there....we wanted him BEFOREHAND, at least 75% of the board did.

....but i get your drift......

I'll back you on this one also. I clearly remember how pissed most guys were. At the time I thought it was a good move. While the jury is still out on Spears (maybe a decent DC can help him out) clearly JJ isn't on Jacksons level. It's still early in their careers so I'm optimistic both players make this trade less one-sided than it appears right now.

 

[Juke99]

Take JJ of his rookie year and put him in this year and he gets 1200-1500 yds.
the robot we now have I hope can be freed one way or another. If not then I blame BP for messing him up.

I tend to agree with ya.

But for me, the confusion is, why draft a guy and then change what he naturally does well.

No one tried to force Segovia to play country music.

 

[Sarge]

I'll back you on this one also. I clearly remember how pissed most guys were. At the time I thought it was a good move. While the jury is still out on Spears (maybe a decent DC can help him out) clearly JJ isn't on Jacksons level. It's still early in their careers so I'm optimistic both players make this trade less one-sided than it appears right now.

I'm on record here..........."there is no doubt in my mind, whatsoever, that Marcus Spears is a bust........none."

 

[Zman5]

If that's the kind of guy he wanted, then that's the kind of guy he should have drafted.

On the nosey.

 

[Juke99]

On the nosey.

Another guy on the list for my attorney to contact.

 

[Bleu Star]

Hindsight my arse. In the chatroom, we were all rooting our nuggets off for Steven Jackson when we were on the clock........not after...........and what do we do..................pass right over him......................no hindsight there....we wanted him BEFOREHAND, at least 75% of the board did.

....but i get your drift......

There's nothing here that says Parcells wouldn't have accomplished the same dumbing down of Stephen Jackson while JJ is on a different team running all over the place. I get your drift though. Stephen Jackson would have been the better choice. He was the better choice by far. No doubt. I only point and wonder how BP would have molded him.

 

[Sarge]

I only point and wonder how BP would have molded him.

As do we all...........herein lies a MAJOR problem that Juke has so aptly pointed out (well, as aptly as he could.... )

 

[Bleu Star]

As do we all...........herein lies a MAJOR problem that Juke has so aptly pointed out (well, as aptly as he could.... )

Aso. I just went back and re-read Juke's sentiments. Juke I am in 110% total agreement with you. Spot on. (i'm guilty for scanning AKA speed reading)

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I know the defense on Points after TD's isn't exactly hyped up...

BUT if anyone has a copy of this game, PLEASE watch Roy Williams on the PATs by the Lions.

He simply stood there like he was waiting for a bus.

Go check it out...it's disgusting.

Ya think Ronnie Lott would have just STOOD there?

Yes.

Roy's spot in the FG formation is to stand there in case there's a botched snap and they try to take the ball and covert the 2 point conversion instead.

While I'm borderline disgusted by the play of the O-Line, defense, and special teams lately, I don't think anybody is mailing it in. I don't see people loafing around there or not trying and according to Newman, woofing it up is part of the problem (and personally I could care less if they are jumping around on every play or not). We have a lousy D-Coordinator. He's not mailing it in...he's just not any good. We have a lousy ILB in Bradie James. He's not mailing it in....he's just terrible in coverage and is easy pickin's for the other team. We have a lousy right guard in Rivera. He's not mailing it in, he's just way past his prime. We have an inconsistent left tackle in Flozell. He's not mailing it in, I just think that for whatever reason he cannot put it all together.


I think the effort is there, but then again I feel like that the effort is there with almost every team in the NFL. But some guys just aren't good enough and we have a crappy D-Coordinator to boot.



YAKUZA

 

[Bleu Star]

YAKUZA

Funny sig man...

 

[Juke99]

Yes.

Roy's spot in the FG formation is to stand there in case there's a botched snap and they try to take the ball and covert the 2 point conversion instead.

While I'm borderline disgusted by the play of the O-Line, defense, and special teams lately, I don't think anybody is mailing it in. I don't see people loafing around there or not trying and according to Newman, woofing it up is part of the problem (and personally I could care less if they are jumping around on every play or not). We have a lousy D-Coordinator. He's not mailing it in...he's just not any good. We have a lousy ILB in Bradie James. He's not mailing it in....he's just terrible in coverage and is easy pickin's for the other team. We have a lousy right guard in Rivera. He's not mailing it in, he's just way past his prime. We have an inconsistent left tackle in Flozell. He's not mailing it in, I just think that for whatever reason he cannot put it all together.


I think the effort is there, but then again I feel like that the effort is there with almost every team in the NFL. But some guys just aren't good enough and we have a crappy D-Coordinator to boot.



YAKUZA

Rich...please..go watch the replays. He is standing there with such obvious disinterest that if the ball turned into a stunning blonde, it wouldn't have caught his attention.

 

[percyhoward]

I'm not convinced Jackson is that much better, but I promise his team knows how to use him better.

Jackson had 90 receptions this year, Julius had 9.

 

[panchucko]

I'm not defending the guy because I am a bigger MB3 fan than that of JJ. However, Parcells coached him to follow his blockers instead of using his instincts. Parcells totally got into his mind between 2004 and today. He does what Parcells wants him to do. It's really quite sickening to watch. You don't take a RB that's known for freestyling to get those extra yards and mold him into a strictly north/south follow those blocks kinda guy. Parcells took away his freedom in the backfield.

Fore the record, I also would have much rather had Stephen Jackson. However, as people often say, we're speaking in hindsight which is always 20/20.

So if Parcells stays until 2008, Romo will look like Bledsoe?

 

[Chuck 54]

Aside from Parcells and Zimmer, I think Julius' act (at least for me) is getting REAL old.

I am SO SICK of seeing him run STRAIGHT INTO A PILE. I mean, what the hell is that? I never liked the choice from day one, but I thought for a while I might have been wrong about it. (Granted, the OL's run blocking is terrible, but Barber looks a lot better behind it than JJ)

Fact is, he had a couple real solid games early in his career, and now he looks pitiful at times.

He does absolutely nothing for me and for those select few (Dbair) who would rather have Julius over Steven Jackson need their head examined asap.

I'd give back Julius and Spears right now for Stephen Jackson.

 

[Sarge]

I'd give back Julius and Spears right now for Stephen Jackson.

In a heartbeat Wayno.........

 

[Chuck 54]

I'm not convinced Jackson is that much better .

WOW

Jackson had 90 receptions this year, Julius had 9.

JJ can't catch...we've seen him drop two swing passes this year...bad hands.