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Live Pro Day Results: USC 40-Times Written by Andrew Garda Wednesday, 01 April 2009 14:26 Live from USC's Pro Day, 40-yard dash results for Clay Matthews Jr., Brian Cushing, Patrick Turner and Kevin Ellison.
40-Yard Dash Times:
OLB Clay Matthews Jr. - 4.44 (ran once)
OLB Brian Cushing - 4.70 (ran once)
WR Patrick Turner - 4.58 & 4.60
S/LB Kevin Ellison - 4.72 & 4.75
CB Cary Harris pulled a hamstring and is done for the day.

Man Clay Matthews Jr a 4.4 guy?
 

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NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock reports the following 40-yard dash times at USC’s pro day:
LB Kaluka Maiava: 4.68; LB Clay Matthews: 4.57; DE Kyle Moore: 4.76; LB Brian Cushing: 4.68; CB Cary Harris: 4.89; WR Patrick Turner: 4.63; S Kevin Ellison: 4.70.
Mayock also reports that QB Mark Sanchez did not run a 40 and that LB Rey Maualuga will run his later in the day.

4.57 seems more believable.

Some of my friends that are SC fans think Matthews is the better LB'r and that Malaluga has the biggest potential bust factor.
 

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I really liked Turner (6051, 223, 33" arms) at the combine, because he looked great catching in all the drills. I'd definitely use one of our three 5th rounders on him. Just think of Plax type talent with Wittens' character...not a bad combination for a 5th rounder. Scored 17 TD's in USC's pro style offense and hasn't reached his potential yet IMO.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/Patrick-Turner.php
 

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Silverstar;2712637 said:
I really liked Turner (6051, 223, 33" arms) at the combine, because he looked great catching in all the drills. I'd definitely use one of our three 5th rounders on him. Just think of Plax type talent with Wittens' character...not a bad combination for a 5th rounder. Scored 17 TD's in USC's pro style offense and hasn't reached his potential yet IMO.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/Patrick-Turner.php

He's big!

Another 20 lbs and he could also play TE. :)
 

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Wow that's impressive by Clay..I'm afraid he'll have the Carpenter affect if he's picked..His pops played in the NFL and he was surrounded by supreme talent.
 

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I think with Turner you have to look at Mike Williams. Pretty much the same type of WR. I was never big on Turner after seeing his body of work. I can't believe SC took priority of Turner over Desean Jackson when it came to recruiting. He never became the #1 WR that the Trojans recruited him to be.

I think the best WR prospect coming out of USC is Damian Williams. That kid seems to have it all.
 

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RESIN8;2712671 said:
I think with Turner you have to look at Mike Williams. Pretty much the same type of WR. I was never big on Turner after seeing his body of work. I can't believe SC took priority of Turner over Desean Jackson when it came to recruiting. He never became the #1 WR that the Trojans recruited him to be.

I think the best WR prospect coming out of USC is Damian Williams. That kid seems to have it all.

he's the only WR that i've seen at USC who looks like he could burn NFL secondaries
 

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Woods;2712647 said:
He's big!

Another 20 lbs and he could also play TE. :)

Well, Ramses Barden (projected 3rd) is even bigger (6-6 1/4 227) and timed faster (4.51, 40), but he didn't play against Pac 10 defenses like Turner did. I'm probably in the minority here, but I think Turner is a riser with his 10 TD's and 15.1 avg last year.
 

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Silverstar;2712689 said:
Well, Ramses Barden (projected 3rd) is even bigger (6-6 1/4 227) and timed faster (4.51, 40), but he didn't play against Pac 10 defenses like Turner did. I'm probably in the minority here, but I think Turner is a riser with his 10 TD's and 15.1 avg last year.

Ehhh depends on where he's picked..One of our 5th rounders? Ya that's fine, but I'm leaning towards a player that can contribute in other ways AKA punt returning..Mike Thomas and Wallace seem to hold the best value.
 

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Posted: Today 4:06 PM
PFW: Maualuga's Huge Bust Factor


The Way We Hear It — draft edition

Maualuga's bust factor scares NFL teams

By Nolan Nawrocki
April 1, 2009

Editor’s note: Check back later today for an update on USC’s pro-day workout.

Entering the season, scouts were enthralled with this year’s MLB class, featuring Ohio State’s James Laurinaitis, USC’s Rey Maualuga and LSU’s Darry Beckwith, all of whom received high marks from evaluators.

However, as the season progressed, concerns were brought to the forefront. Maualuga began missing too many tackles, Laurinaitis stayed blocked too long and Beckwith could not find the football.

With a chance to redeem themselves at the NFL Scouting Combine, none of them stood out, as Maualuga pulled out of the workout with a hamstring injury suffered running his first 40-yard dash. On Wednesday, Maualuga has another chance to prove himself at USC's highly anticipated pro-day workout, but the way we hear it, nothing Maualuga does will erase the concerns teams have about him on tape and off the field.

“Chart how many times he is on the ground,” one longtime evaluator said, “and you will see why I think he will always struggle in the pros. He had so much talent around him — that defense may be as talented as I’ve ever seen in college. It covers up a lot of mistakes.”

For as fearlessly as Maualuga may run through contact and as violently as he may deliver some big hits, he too often struggles to break down in the open field and gets caught out of position by taking false steps. His instincts still leave a lot to be desired. Scouts that revisit the Trojans’ loss to Oregon State have come away even more unimpressed, as Maualuga’s shoddy tackling was identified as a major reason for the 27-21 loss to the Beavers.

Despite leading the team with 12 tackles, Maualuga was not able to stop Oregon State RB Jacquizz Rodgers from consistently gashing the defense straight up the gut. Maualuga’s sprained right knee reportedly did not have any swelling after the game when an MRI was taken. However, he did not play against Oregon the following week, as Brian Cushing replaced him in the middle, leading scouts to question how much the benching was related to injury and how much was related to performance, the latter of which inside sources say was a greater factor in his absence.

Laurinaitis and Beckwith both brought great leadership to the field and have been model citizens off it. The same can not be said for Maualuga, who program sources publicly said had matured after finding trouble early in his career while dealing with his father's battle with cancer.

Maualuga not only showed poor judgment preceding the Rose Bowl, when he mocked ESPN reporter Erin Andrews, and later apologized, inside sources also have pointed to the need for Maualuga to be closely monitored, as well-trusted fellow linebackers Keith Rivers and Cushing were deliberately assigned to be his roommates on the road to provide the stability he needed to stay out of trouble.

"He has a high bust factor," said one NFL executive responsible for stacking his team's draft board. "There is a lot there that scares me. There is a right price for everyone, but I would not feel comfortable taking him in the first round where we are picking. The money is too great. You cannot afford to make mistakes and expect to recover from them."

Like I said a couple of months ago. Darry Beckwith will be just as good as Maualuga or Laurenitis.
 

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good article, I was never really impressed with Rey, he makes plays every now and then, but largely he's reduced to running around the field, and was protected by a pretty good front-line

it's funny how careful you have to be evaluating players their Junior years, some look so great, return, and the more film you have, the less impressive they appear, but I guess NFL teams are glad for that or they would be taking a player much higher than they should if they came out earlier
 

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We've already got a one dimensional red zone WR.

I'd rather take a chance on Sammie Stroughter more than any WR that's coming out of the Pac 10 at this point. As a sophmores very little difference in playmaking between Stroughter and Desean Jackson. Also Stroughter plays much bigger then his size which is being questioned by NFL guys.

Here he is against SC's hard hitting safety Kevin Ellison. Not only a great block on the initial play , but great concentration knowing he was going to get Ellisons retort on the play after

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtsEOXra1JU&feature=related
 

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to be honest i thought Matthews would go before Rey & Cushing to Houston at 15/16. BP would be all over the guy because of his Dad alone.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2712695 said:
Ehhh depends on where he's picked..One of our 5th rounders? Ya that's fine, but I'm leaning towards a player that can contribute in other ways AKA punt returning..Mike Thomas and Wallace seem to hold the best value.


We can get Turner with our last 5th rounder and still get a good PR like Sammie Stroughter in the 7th. Turner can replace Hurd and Stroughter can replace Wilson for the 5th and 6th WR spots.

Stroughter...
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=15437&draftyear=2009&genpos=WR
 

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RESIN8;2712735 said:
We've already got a one dimensional red zone WR.

I'd rather take a chance on Sammie Stroughter more than any WR that's coming out of the Pac 10 at this point. As a sophmores very little difference in playmaking between Stroughter and Desean Jackson. Also Stroughter plays much bigger then his size which is being questioned by NFL guys.

Here he is against SC's hard hitting safety Kevin Ellison. Not only a great block on the initial play , but great concentration knowing he was going to get Ellisons retort on the play after

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtsEOXra1JU&feature=related


You beat me to it. :)
 

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JerryAdvocate;2712700 said:
good article, I was never really impressed with Rey, he makes plays every now and then, but largely he's reduced to running around the field, and was protected by a pretty good front-line

it's funny how careful you have to be evaluating players their Junior years, some look so great, return, and the more film you have, the less impressive they appear, but I guess NFL teams are glad for that or they would be taking a player much higher than they should if they came out earlier

God I hate them. I mean it's no big deal at all. You lose Rey and then plug in a stud like Chris Gallipo.

There is hope that the evil empire will fall. The Ricker did a heck of a job recruiting and got some guys that would have been 5 star shelving at SC.
 

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Silverstar;2712744 said:
We can get Turner with our last 5th rounder and still get a good PR like Sammie Stroughter in the 7th. Turner can replace Hurd and Stroughter can replace Wilson for the 5th and 6th WR spots.

Stroughter...
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=15437&draftyear=2009&genpos=WR

I do like the fact that he's a proven punt returner..that's what I'm looking for..not just another Crayton(Turner) but someone who is versatile and can become a solid #3 in this league..
 

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SLATEmosphere;2712780 said:
I do like the fact that he's a proven punt returner..that's what I'm looking for..not just another Crayton(Turner) but someone who is versatile and can become a solid #3 in this league..

Trust me, I have never liked Crayton and can't wait to replace him. I just think Turner with his size, would be invaluable near the goal line. Hard to imagine any DB winning that battle without pass interference. You draft Turner and make him run those endzone routes, until he masters that part of the field. If he gets a PI called against him while trying to make the catch...he's done his job!

He comes off the field with high fives all around...Barber carries the rock for six.....gravy baby!


TEAMWORK :starspin
 

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Silverstar;2712810 said:
Trust me, I have never liked Crayton and can't wait to replace him. I just think Turner with his size, would be invaluable near the goal line. Hard to imagine any DB winning that battle without pass interference. You draft Turner and make him run those endzone routes, until he masters that part of the field. If he gets a PI called against him while trying to make the catch...he's done his job!

He comes off the field with high fives all around...Barber carries the rock for six.....gravy baby!


TEAMWORK :starspin

True, but we already have Roy and Martellus who no one can compete with in a jump ball..we need a little burner. If we get Turner, I won't be upset but I'd rather have a guy that runs a 4.3
 
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