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I'd give it about a 10% chance of 2 guards going in the top 20. If we are taking the 2nd best guard in the draft it better be after a trade back. Not that I don't like Cooper, he's a good prospect, but that would be a pretty big reach at #18. Just my 2 cents....
 

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tm1119;4944896 said:
I'd give it about a 10% chance of 2 guards going in the top 20. If we are taking the 2nd best guard in the draft it better be after a trade back. Not that I don't like Cooper, he's a good prospect, but that would be a pretty big reach at #18. Just my 2 cents....

This is an unusual G class. You have two players easily in the top 20 overall. Some would say top 15.

It's like having DeCastro and Iupati in the same class.
 

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why would the giants take a TE when they need help at DL and in the secondary
 

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tm1119;4944896 said:
I'd give it about a 10% chance of 2 guards going in the top 20. If we are taking the 2nd best guard in the draft it better be after a trade back. Not that I don't like Cooper, he's a good prospect, but that would be a pretty big reach at #18. Just my 2 cents....


IMO, Cooper is better than Warmack.
 

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tm1119;4944896 said:
I'd give it about a 10% chance of 2 guards going in the top 20. If we are taking the 2nd best guard in the draft it better be after a trade back. Not that I don't like Cooper, he's a good prospect, but that would be a pretty big reach at #18. Just my 2 cents....

I agree. If DeCastro didn't go Top 20, the chances of two OG's going Top 20 this year are quite slim.

I'm not a Matt Barkley fan at all, but unless you extend Romo soon, I'd be interested to know if the Cowboys would look at him in this scenario.
 

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TheCount;4944908 said:
I agree. If DeCastro didn't go Top 20, the chances of two OG's going Top 20 this year are quite slim.

I'm not a Matt Barkley fan at all, but unless you extend Romo soon, I'd be interested to know if the Cowboys would look at him in this scenario.

God, I hope not. That would be horrific.
 

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Risen Star;4944911 said:
God, I hope not. That would be horrific.


i dont think horrific is a strong enough negative word....i am not sure there is one in the english language ;)
 

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15. New Orleans Saints - Sam Montgomery DE LSU
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17. Pittsburgh Steelers - Barkevious Mingo DE LSU
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Risen Star;4944903 said:
This is an unusual G class. You have two players easily in the top 20 overall. Some would say top 15.

It's like having DeCastro and Iupati in the same class.

Sorry but Cooper just isn't in the same class as Iupati or DeCastro. Id say he is more of a Zeitler or Danny Watkins(pre draft rankings only) type prospect. Should be a good solid starter for a while, but not a game changing anchor like an Iupati. Like I said, good prospect at a position of need, but a trade back would be ideal.
 

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tm1119;4944955 said:
Sorry but Cooper just isn't in the same class as Iupati or DeCastro. Id say he is more of a Zeitler or Danny Watkins(pre draft rankings only) type prospect. Should be a good solid starter for a while, but not a game changing anchor like an Iupati. Like I said, good prospect at a position of need, but a trade back would be ideal.

Cooper has a significantly higher grade right now than either Zeitler or Watkins in January of the year they were drafted.

Cooper's grade is right where Iupati or DeCastro were at this time.
 

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Risen Star;4944880 said:
As far as I'm concerned, Cooper, Williams, Richardson and Ogletree are a wash. I'll take the OL over the front seven right now.

Which Williams?
 
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