What happened to the old 70s/80s van designs? My grandparents had a mid-80s van that had (in the back) 2 captain chairs, a table, a little refrigerator, and a couch in the very back that folded down to a bed. My grandparents used to always take me on Oregon Coast trips and we would just take the van and save by skipping out on hotels. I would just crash on the floor (when you're young you can get away with that lol). My uncle went on a few trips with us and he would just throw up a tent outside at night. Plus there are some great camping spots along Highway 101. Good times Anyways, I guess my point was it was very livable.