Vela at Boys Blog: Isaiah Stanback

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Isaiah Stanback, QB/WR/KR, University of Washington, 4th round draft pick

Measurables: 6′2″, 216 pounds, 4.62 forty yard dash (though many claim he was a sub-4.4 guy before the injury)

Positives
: Possesses great size and athletic ability, both as a QB and a WR. Before his injury, showed excellent mobility when making plays with his feet, including good balance and the ability to change directions quickly. Has good lower body strength and the ability to break the occasional tackle. Could develop into both a dangerous open field threat and an effective red zone target, given his size and skill set. Seattle publications refer to him as a team leader and a confident locker room presence.

Negatives:
The big one is injury-related. Stanback is coming off an injury to the Lisfranc joint of his right foot, which occurred in October of his senior year and required surgery and 8 months of rehab to repair. Current reports indicate that he is “sprinting, cutting and jumping,” and his major concern at this point is building strength in the last two months before Cowboys camp opens. For a player whose major value is his speed and athletic ability, a foot injury of this type is worrisome. As a QB, he lacks accuracy and has problems with his touch on short throws, though his overall arm strength is decent. Someone send him the video of Stanback throwing the ball 70 yards! :rolleyes:

Outlook:
The headline here is that Stanback is going to be very raw, no matter what position the Cowboys field him at. He has not played regularly at WR since his freshman year at Washington, and his QB skills are not NFL-ready: his completion percentage was low throughout his college career, and he got away with a lot due to his athletic ability that he will not get away with in the NFL.

That said, he likely won’t be seeing the field at QB for the Cowboys anyway. The ‘Boys currently have 5 QBs on the roster, not including Stanback: Tony Romo, Brad Johnson, Brock Berlin, Matt Baker, and Matt Moore. Assuming one of those last three young guys makes the team, that would make Stanback the team’s 4th “emergency” quarterback, at best. This is not a Seneca Wallace situation, in which Wallace is both a sometimes WR for Seattle and the team’s primary backup QB.

The WR corps in Dallas, as we all know, is less crowded. The two starters are 33+, and no one else on the squad boasts much in the way of starting experience. Stanback will be given his chance to make the team at WR and at return specialist, where he could be paired with Miles Austin on kickoffs.

If his foot recovers completely and Stanback is once again the athlete he was early in his senior year, he has the potential to develop into a quality NFL receiver. However, it will be a significant transition, and one of the knocks on Stanback in college was that he struggled to read coverages and his decision-making was suspect. WR is the toughest position to learn in the NFL outside of QB and possibly C, so expecting a short-term contribution from Stanback outside of the return game and the occasional WR option pass seems unrealistic. Setting him up as a Hines Ward or Antwaan Randle El right off the bat will likely lead to disappointment.

One last tidbit: With Stanback, the Cowboys continue their tradition of fielding a strong hypothetical NFL Softball League team—following in the footsteps of Quincy Carter and Drew Henson, Isaiah Stanback was drafted by the Baltimore Orioles late in the 2006 MLB draft. He was also on the track team at UW prior to his senior year.
 

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I remember Kordell Stewart throwing a 70 yard pass for Colorado to beat Michigan. Although he could throw it a long way, he did not seem to have a strong arm.

Aikman probably could not throw it 70 yards. I thought I remember him throwing it 55 to 60 in those NFL QB challenges. Yet he had a very strong arm when throwing a slant or deep out. Marino was the same way. The ability to take a drop and then bam snap off a throw on a rope is different than floating a ball 70 yards down field.

I think throwing it deep down field is a physical ability. Those other throws require abiltity and a lot of good technique. Bledsoe also seemed to struggle on deep outs as well, but could chunk it a mile. I don't know enough about Stanback to know if he can make those other throws required to play QB at a high level. Not too worried about either since he is here to play receiver.
 

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tunahelper;1487050 said:
WR is the toughest position to learn in the NFL outside of QB and possibly C, so expecting a short-term contribution from Stanback outside of the return game and the occasional WR option pass seems unrealistic. Setting him up as a Hines Ward or Antwaan Randle El right off the bat will likely lead to disappointment.
You mean, our 4th round pick won't be able to come in and start immediately over our 2 pro bowl recievers?
 

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theogt;1487055 said:
You mean, our 4th round pick won't be able to come in and start immediately over our 2 pro bowl recievers?

antwaan randle el made the probowl!?!?!? when?
 

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When most people here it said that a QB has a strong arm, they assume he can toss it a mile. They should be more concerned with his accuracy and the velocity he puts on the ball. If he can toss the ball 60 yards down the field, that's great but if he can't get the ball to his WR accurately and quickly enough before the defender can break up the play, the QB won't have a long career. Garrett actually could make the long throws cause he knew how to float them, but his lack of arm strong was insufficient for him to put the necessary velocity on the pass to reach the WR in touch.
 

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BLT;1487237 said:
antwaan randle el made the probowl!?!?!? when?
Antwaan Randle El became one of OUR recievers!?!?!? When?
 

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I was listening to the one of my podcasts and it was from DC.com on there and it had Ireland on there and he said to "get your popcorn ready" when talking about Stanback.

It really seems that the scouting department is expecting ALOT out of this guy and are pretty excited to have him on the team.
 

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joseephuss;1487054 said:
Aikman probably could not throw it 70 yards. I thought I remember him throwing it 55 to 60 in those NFL QB challenges. Yet he had a very strong arm when throwing a slant or deep out. Marino was the same way. The ability to take a drop and then bam snap off a throw on a rope is different than floating a ball 70 yards down field.


I always thought Aikman had a huge arm in college but after hurting his shoulder he could never throw the deep ball like that again.
 

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Personally, I like a combination of arm strength, accuracy and heart!
 

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Stanback's physical skills sound impressive, but I just hope that Jones and the medical staff did their homework on his injury. The one consolation is that he won't be expected to compete right away due to his injury, and like everyone else here, I just "hope" that his injury doesn't linger though. Not meaning to draw any comparisons here at all, but remembering back to last year when we took Green with our 4th pick, and since we all know how that turned out for us, I just hope we get more of a return on this year's 4th rounder than last year. Let's just hope that he fully recovers before too long and will be able to contribute in some manner this year.
 

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Isaiah Stanback is now officially the most overhyped 4th round choice in the history of the franchise.

One day we will all look back and realize we witnessed the drafting of Superman this past Sunday.
 

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Alexander;1487882 said:
Isaiah Stanback is now officially the most overhyped 4th round choice in the history of the franchise.

One day we will all look back and realize we witnessed the drafting of Superman this past Sunday.

Hopefully his kryptonite is not catching the ball.
 

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joseephuss;1487054 said:
I remember Kordell Stewart throwing a 70 yard pass for Colorado to beat Michigan. Although he could throw it a long way, he did not seem to have a strong arm.

Aikman probably could not throw it 70 yards. I thought I remember him throwing it 55 to 60 in those NFL QB challenges. Yet he had a very strong arm when throwing a slant or deep out. Marino was the same way. The ability to take a drop and then bam snap off a throw on a rope is different than floating a ball 70 yards down field.

I think throwing it deep down field is a physical ability. Those other throws require abiltity and a lot of good technique. Bledsoe also seemed to struggle on deep outs as well, but could chunk it a mile. I don't know enough about Stanback to know if he can make those other throws required to play QB at a high level. Not too worried about either since he is here to play receiver.

A good point you make here Josee. The mechanics of actually throwing a football are interesting in that there different if your throwing an out or a bomb. In fact, lots of guys who have excellent arm strength and throw a good out pattern or sideline don't throw a good deep ball. In order to throw a good out pattern, your mechanics have to be very solid. The velocity of the ball and the wrist snap involved in throwing that route is significant. If you want to be accurate, your release and motion have to be dead on or you'll end up with interceptions going the other way for scores. This is why Aikman never threw a real good deep ball because of this. His motion was just different and so, his release was poor, IMO, on the deep ball. Not accurate or deep but any out, seam or slant he could throw exceedingly well. Griese is this way. He throws a real nice deep ball but his arm strength is average. Jason Garrett was also this way.
 

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Alexander;1487882 said:
Isaiah Stanback is now officially the most overhyped 4th round choice in the history of the franchise.

One day we will all look back and realize we witnessed the drafting of Superman this past Sunday.

Overhyped or Superman?
:D
 

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theogt;1487055 said:
You mean, our 4th round pick won't be able to come in and start immediately over our 2 pro bowl recievers?

Cool. I didn't know we had any Pro Bowl receivers. :)
 
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tunahelper;1487050 said:
The WR corps in Dallas, as we all know, is less crowded. The two starters are 33+, and no one else on the squad boasts much in the way of starting experience. Stanback will be given his chance to make the team at WR and at return specialist, where he could be paired with Miles Austin on kickoffs.


this is our biggest hole heading into the season, IMHO.

at 33+ either TO, or TG can be expected to miss some playing time, probably multiple games.

who fills that gap? stanback?

i don't care how athletic he is, he will not be ready to contribute significantly to the offense this year. how could he be if he is going to miss all that mini-camp work?
 

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Cowboy Bill Watts;1488188 said:
this is our biggest hole heading into the season, IMHO.

at 33+ either TO, or TG can be expected to miss some playing time, probably multiple games.

who fills that gap? stanback?

i don't care how athletic he is, he will not be ready to contribute significantly to the offense this year. how could he be if he is going to miss all that mini-camp work?

Crayton and Hurd move up the depth chart when Terry Glenn goes down for significant time this year due to pain from his knee cap problem. Witten also becomes even more of a factor with Glenn out.
I love Glenn's game but he has gone too long without any serious injury problems keeping him off the field. At his age I think his luck runs out.
 

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Cowboy Bill Watts;1488188 said:
this is our biggest hole heading into the season, IMHO.

at 33+ either TO, or TG can be expected to miss some playing time, probably multiple games.

who fills that gap? stanback?

i don't care how athletic he is, he will not be ready to contribute significantly to the offense this year. how could he be if he is going to miss all that mini-camp work?

That's why the very next paragraph basically said he is a WR project.
 

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Cowboy Bill Watts;1488188 said:
this is our biggest hole heading into the season, IMHO.

at 33+ either TO, or TG can be expected to miss some playing time, probably multiple games.

who fills that gap? stanback?

i don't care how athletic he is, he will not be ready to contribute significantly to the offense this year. how could he be if he is going to miss all that mini-camp work?

Stanback could be our next Skyler Green?

Lets face it. This pick stinks.

This guy is not a WR [playing freshman WR doesn't make you a WR in the NFL] and I'd be shocked if he could even make the squad as a WR. Let's give our current 5 WRs some credit.

The only way this guy makes the team is a KR/PR and I don't see that happening.

We can only hope that this kid shows us something.

L
 

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eduncan22;1488741 said:
Stanback could be our next Skyler Green?

Lets face it. This pick stinks.

This guy is not a WR [playing freshman WR doesn't make you a WR in the NFL] and I'd be shocked if he could even make the squad as a WR. Let's give our current 5 WRs some credit.

The only way this guy makes the team is a KR/PR and I don't see that happening.

We can only hope that this kid shows us something.

L
Who do you scout for uneducated one? We don't know what this kid is capable of, but Jeff Ireland and the west coast scout were the ones who identified this guy and believe he will be a special player. Plus there is precedent for taking a guy like this, there were two taking just last year in the fourth round.
 
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