Vela's the boysblog has an 8 Aug Projected 53 man Cowboy roster

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Below is Vela's projected roster and there are a few surprises. Check out FB, WR, LB, K & CB/S unresolved. Remember preseason games may alter the roster particularly when dealing with younger players. Enjoy, until after the Colt game which could immediately affect the roster. BTW: If Vela right, unless Miles Austin shows up big in preseason games, he could be in trouble so the suggestion by some poster that we trade Austin for a draft pick seems a bit premature to say the least. Again enjoy. SAGO1

from boysblog - Raphael Vela
Think it’s a bit early to pencil in the final roster? I don’t. There are some key players to watch on Thursday but not many roster spots up for grabs. Here’s my current 53, with rookies in italics.
Special Teams (3)

K (1) Nick Folk and Martin Gramatica
They’re 1 and 1A right now. Their game performances will tell which one gets the nod. Folk has a strong leg and gets more height on his attempts, but if he’s missing just wide, it won’t matter. They’ve both been accurate. I don’t think the Cowboys will carry two kickers. If Folk wins the field goal duel, he’ll be the guy.
P (1) Mat McBriar
Working on another Pro Bowl selection. Next…
Snapper (1) L.P. Ladouceur
Solid
Offense (25)
QB (3) Tony Romo, Brad Johnson, Matt Moore?
The pecking order is set. I give Moore the current nod over Richard Bartel for #3 but the games will answer that question.
RB (3) Julius Jones, Marion Barber, Tyson Thompson
The two headed Jones-Barber monster lives. Thompson works 3rd team and returns kickoffs. Barring injury, he’ll stick.
*FB (2) Oliver Hoyte, Jackie Battle
Hoyte’s the starter, though Battle has made his case this week. He’s shown he can block blitzers effectively, catch the ball and shows a nasty streak when running. Some people want to classify him as a RB, but he’s lined up a lot as a backfield blocker.
TE (2) Jason Witten, Anthony Fasano
This seems thin. The Cowboys could carry a third, but I have not seen a backup besides Fasano do anything impressive. The Parcells Cowboys used to carry three to four TEs and one fullback. Keeping Battle as a fullback could lessen the need for depth there, though I’m shaky about keeping just two.
*WR (6) Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, Sam Hurd, Jerheme Urban, Isaiah Stanback
I think at some point in the near future the Cowboys will go with five receivers and sign that third TE. Right now, however, injuries could force them to keep six. Terry Glenn will probably be back in a couple of weeks after having a cyst removed from his knee. Crayton and Hurd are #3 and #4. Urban gets #5 for the moment because he’s the punt returner. He’s the shakiest name on my offensive list and the most likely to be cut.
Stanback hasn’t practiced yet but the scouting staff loves him and shin splints are not the type of injury to keep you on the injured reserve. (There’s no way they’ll sneak him through waivers so the options are to reserve him or wait.) He’ll probably get into the action very soon and will get a crack at the #5 spot, since he’s being groomed to return kicks.
Offensive line (9) Flozell Adams, Marc Colombo, Kyle Kosier, Leonard Davis, Andre Gurode, Pat McQuistan, Doug Free, James Marten, Cory Procter
The first eight are chalk. Proctor’s likely solid too since he backs up Gurode. McQuistan could probably backup both guard and tackle positions, so Dallas needs somebody to cover the pivot and nobody else has stood out there.
Defense (25)
Linemen (6) Marcus Spears, Jason Ferguson, Chris Canty, Jason Hatcher, Jay Ratliff, Stephen Bowen
The first five are solid. Bowen gets the nod for the last spot because he’s working in more packages than the other backups. Backup nose tackle remains a mystery. The Cowboys may keep seven players here.
*Linebackers (9) Demarcus Ware, Greg Ellis, Anthony Spencer, Akin Ayodele, Bradie James, Bobby Carpenter, Kevin Burnett, Junior Glymph, Blair Phillips?
The first eight seem fairly well set. Glymph is getting a lot more work and gets near the football more and more though it’s not clear how much playing time he’ll get backing up Demarcus Ware. Phillips loves to keep linebackers and stocked 10 on his ‘06 Chargers D. Phillips, Alex Obomese or Dedrick Harrington could make the team off their special teams work.
Defensive backs (10)
*Corners (5) Terence Newman, Anthony Henry, Aaron Glenn, Nate Jones and ?
The first four get a lot of work. Jones backs up Newman as the slot defender in the nickel. Joey Thomas, Jacques Reeves and rookie Alan Ball are all fighting for the final spot, in my opinion.
*Safety (5) Roy Williams, Ken Hamlin, Keith Davis, Pat Watkins, Courtney Brown.
Dallas may only keep four safeties. The first four go two deep, with Davis backing up Williams and Watkins playing Hamlin’s understudy. Brown has a lot of athletic ability but has a lot to learn after being switched from corner. If the Cowboys feel he’s worth it, they’ll keep him. Otherwise they may try to sneak him onto the practice squad and keep a seventh defensive lineman.
 

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We aren't keeping 3 QBs, IMO.

Stanback will be the punt returner, so keeping Urban because he is returning punts makes no sense, plus he's cut both our second KO return guys Austin and Elam.

Terrible roster prediction, IMO.
 

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I'm betting that Dallas goes with:

2 QBs - Romo and Johnson
3 RBs - Jones, Barner, Thompson
2 FBs - Hoyte and Anderson
6 WRs - Owens, Glenn, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, and Stanback
3 TEs - Witten, Fasano, and ?
9 OL - Adams, Kosier, Gurode, Davis, Columbo, McQuistan, Procter, Free, and Marten

6 DL - Spears, Ferguson, Canty, Ratliff, Hatcher, and ?
8 LBs - Ware, James, Ayodele, Ellis, Spencer, Carpenter, Burnett, Glymph
6 CBs - Newman, Henry, Glenn, and ???. Three open spots: this is the most interesting camp battle to me.
4 S - Williams, Hamlin, Watkins, Davis

1 K - Folk
1 P - McBriar
1 LS - Ladouceur

That gives you one more spot, if my math is right, for the guy who impresses you the absolute most. It could be a special teamer, punt returner, additional lineman, or even a guy you worry about sneaking onto the practice squad.
 

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This roster surprises and disappoints me. I expected Vela to do better.

I can't see cutting Austin to keep a mediocre #3 quarterback you could stash on the practice squad or a free safety you can do the same thing with.

And keeping a no-name linebacker just to maintain a certain number seems silly too.

And I see 6 corners, not 5 safeties.
 

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ddh33;1580019 said:
I'm betting that Dallas goes with:

2 QBs - Romo and Johnson
3 RBs - Jones, Barner, Thompson
2 FBs - Hoyte and Anderson
6 WRs - Owens, Glenn, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, and Stanback
3 TEs - Witten, Fasano, and ?
9 OL - Adams, Kosier, Gurode, Davis, Columbo, McQuistan, Procter, Free, and Marten

6 DL - Spears, Ferguson, Canty, Ratliff, Hatcher, and ?
8 LBs - Ware, James, Ayodele, Ellis, Spencer, Carpenter, Burnett, Glymph
6 CBs - Newman, Henry, Glenn, and ???. Three open spots: this is the most interesting camp battle to me.
4 S - Williams, Hamlin, Watkins, Davis

1 K - Folk
1 P - McBriar
1 LS - Ladouceur

That gives you one more spot, if my math is right, for the guy who impresses you the absolute most. It could be a special teamer, punt returner, additional lineman, or even a guy you worry about sneaking onto the practice squad.

sounds about righ tto me.
 

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sago1;1579979 said:
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*WR (6) Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, Sam Hurd, Jerheme Urban, Isaiah Stanbackquote]


No way with Urban. It has to be jamica rector.
 

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abersonc;1580026 said:
Moore is a PS guy.


Yeah, absolutely no reason at all to keep him on the 53 man roster. I just can't see that. I would much rather have a guy like Stanback, who can move be the emergency QB if that crazy situation ever arrived.

I don't see Austin getting cut and I really don't see Jones making it over Reeves. Reeves has been the 4th guy for 2 years now, did jones somehow pass him in the offseason?
 

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Zoners don't laugh--Battle with his size/speed/strength could play T.E. in a pinch and FB....what do you think?

OK.....now laugh!
 

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CrazyCowboy;1580037 said:
Zoners don't laugh--Battle with his size/speed/strength could play T.E. in a pinch and FB....what do you think?

OK.....now laugh!

No experience as a blocker=practice squad.

Along with Moore, Long, Courtney Brown and Deon Anderson among others.
 

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Urban's returning punts in this preseason game because they are desperate with injuries and the two healthy bodies happen to be key players that you don't want to expose too much in preseason. (Newman, Crayton) Unless Urban just explodes as a punt returner in these preseason games, Newman and Crayton will probably share the duty again in the regular season with Stanback also being a possibility and the guy the coaches want to develop there.

Battle is not making this club as the #2 FB, this is just a desperate attempt to save a player Vela fell in love with. DC.com has even mentioned that the coaches are very high on Deon Anderson and what he's done in camp.

Matt Moore should make it to the practice squad, so why waste a roster spot on him?

Blair Phillips isn't making the team because Wade kept more LBs in SD.

Wade even mentioned that you keep more at a position if thats where the talent is, I would expect them to possibly go with more dbs and possibly keep the 2 kickers even if that doesn't sit well with most fans.

3 TEs is probably a must.

Bowen is a maybe at this point
 

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I have a hard time believing Deon Anderson won't make the team. Many have said that, if he were not a rookie who is just learning the NFL game, he might start over Hoyte.
 

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HeavyHitta31;1580080 said:
I have a hard time believing Deon Anderson won't make the team. Many have said that, if he were not a rookie who is just learning the NFL game, he might start over Hoyte.

We'll have to wait and see what he does in the preseason games, but all I've heard of him so far is that he's been late and he ate a cricket.

Not quite enough to earn a roster spot if you ask me.
 

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stasheroo;1580134 said:
We'll have to wait and see what he does in the preseason games, but all I've heard of him so far is that he's been late and he ate a cricket.

Not quite enough to earn a roster spot if you ask me.
On dc.com they've said that Garrett and the other coaches are very high on Anderson. We can get good info from media and fans at camp, but they really aren't going to give you reliable scouting reports on guys. Since they weren't going full contact, it makes it even harder.
 

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I like the idea of keeping 2 FBs

QB: Romo, Johnson...stash Bartel on PS
RB: Julius, Barber, Thompson
FB: Hoyte, Battle

WR: TO, Austin
WR: Glenn, Crayton, Hurd, Stanback
TE: Witten, Fasano...stash Hannah and Andy Thorn on PS

LT: Flo, Free
LG: Kosier
C: Gurode, Proctor
RG: Davis
RT: Colombo, McQuistan, Marten

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Defense

LDE: Spears, Ratliff
NT: Ferguson, Bowen...stash Ola on PS
RDE: Canty, Hatcher

LOLB: Ware, Glymph
LILB: Bradie, Carp
RILB: Akin, Burnett
ROLB: Ellis, Spencer, Blair Phillips

LCB: Newman, Aaron Glenn
RCB: Henry, Nate Jones, Reeves, Alan Ball
FS: Hamlin, Watkins, Courtney Brown
SS: Roy, Keith Davis

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Special Teams

K: Folk
P: McBrier
LS: Lodaceur

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sago1;1579979 said:
*FB (2) Oliver Hoyte, Jackie Battle
Hoyte’s the starter, though Battle has made his case this week. He’s shown he can block blitzers effectively, catch the ball and shows a nasty streak when running. Some people want to classify him as a RB, but he’s lined up a lot as a backfield blocker.

Really? Not from what I hear. They don't think he will make the transition to FB this year because his blocking stinks.

The Cowboys will keep 3 TEs and 2 FBs or 3 FBs and 2 TEs. Mark it.

My guess is 2 TEs (Whitten and Fasano) and 3 FBs (Hoyte, Polite, and Anderson) Even though I think it's better to have 3 TEs, having Hoyte (FB/LB) helps. Polite is the most polished, but is average at best. Anderson could be the guy of the future, he just needs time to develop and is a great special teamer. There are many teams that were looking at Anderson before the draft including the Patriots. if you place Anderson on the practice squad you can kiss him goodbye.

sago1;1579979 said:
*WR (6) Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, Sam Hurd, Jerheme Urban, Isaiah Stanback

As much as Urban has shown, Miles is a better overall talent. He just needs work. If they take Urban over Miles, its because they don't think he will develop. (develop fast enough anyhow)
sago1;1579979 said:
*Corners (5) Terence Newman, Anthony Henry, Aaron Glenn, Nate Jones and ?
It's already known Jacques Reeves is above Nate Jones in the pecking order.


blindzebra;1580010 said:
We aren't keeping 3 QBs, IMO.

Yes we are.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1580154 said:
I like the idea of keeping 2 FBs

QB: Romo, Johnson...stash Bartel on PS
RB: Julius, Barber, Thompson
FB: Hoyte, Battle

WR: TO, Austin
WR: Glenn, Crayton, Hurd, Stanback
TE: Witten, Fasano...stash Hannah and Andy Thorn on PS

LT: Flo, Free
LG: Kosier
C: Gurode, Proctor
RG: Davis
RT: Colombo, McQuistan, Marten

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Defense

LDE: Spears, Ratliff
NT: Ferguson, Bowen...stash Ola on PS
RDE: Canty, Hatcher

LOLB: Ware, Glymph
LILB: Bradie, Carp
RILB: Akin, Burnett
ROLB: Ellis, Spencer, Blair Phillips

LCB: Newman, Aaron Glenn
RCB: Henry, Nate Jones, Reeves, Alan Ball
FS: Hamlin, Watkins, Courtney Brown
SS: Roy, Keith Davis

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Special Teams

K: Folk
P: McBrier
LS: Lodaceur

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We cut Thorn today.;)
 

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I think Keith Davis gets cut somewhere down the line. He has shown very little as a safety since first joining the team in 2002. He is good at special teams, but that should not save him a back up safety spot.
 
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