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Maikeru-sama;2848439 said:
You have ATT for your Internet but you don't have Uverse? What other Internet Service do they provide?
U-verse is a bundled package of everything. Dish, phone, internet.

Att sells those services separately, as well.

So I have Phone and DSL service w/a wireless gateway through ATT. My cell phone is also through ATT.

It would be slightly cheaper to get u-verse, but I actually like DTV.
 

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They don't know what they're talking about if they told you they need to do anything to your computer. If you had broadband previously, all they need to do is issue you a fios modem and provision it to be online.

There is no software required for any broadband internet connection.

The only time a tech should need to touch your keyboard is if they bring you a brand new router or wireless access point, or if you provide one - then there may be some configuration required but absolutely nothing needs to be installed on your computer.
 

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I have Fios. And a tech did have to install some Verizon software on my PC to test the connection. It was mostly diagnostic tools and to activate the connection.

And oddly enough, couple weeks later, I reformatted my hard drive and everything's still fine. I don't have the Verizon software on the computer anymore, and it still works fine. And he did provide me with the CD, so I can install it again if I need to.
 

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I've got FIOS as well for Phone and internet. The speed kicks ***, I have had very little issue with downtime. And they recently upgraded me from 15/2 service to 20/5 for no charge. I've tested it multiple times and I always get at or near the advertised speeds, which is rare for most service providers.

Any FIOS software is not strictly necessary. You should be able to ask the installer not to install it if you don't want it and it will still work fine. It's mostly 'dummy' tools to walk you through troubleshooting if your connection goes down. Saves them the cost of having you call in if you have issues.

While you should be able to configure the router to open up desired ports, be advised that Verizon will still block any ports on their end they don't want you using. Such as port 80 to prevent hosting websites. There are differing reports in different areas as to how this is handled, so your mileage may vary.

Last suggestion I will make is to ask the installer to run Cat 5 from the Network interface to the router instead of coax. This will allow you to use a different router for the service if you choose. I've done this, and I use my trusty Linksys for my FIOS connection and have had no issues.
 

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c0wb0y_m0nkey;2849556 said:
I've got FIOS as well for Phone and internet. The speed kicks ***, I have had very little issue with downtime. And they recently upgraded me from 15/2 service to 20/5 for no charge. I've tested it multiple times and I always get at or near the advertised speeds, which is rare for most service providers.

Any FIOS software is not strictly necessary. You should be able to ask the installer not to install it if you don't want it and it will still work fine. It's mostly 'dummy' tools to walk you through troubleshooting if your connection goes down. Saves them the cost of having you call in if you have issues.

While you should be able to configure the router to open up desired ports, be advised that Verizon will still block any ports on their end they don't want you using. Such as port 80 to prevent hosting websites. There are differing reports in different areas as to how this is handled, so your mileage may vary.

Last suggestion I will make is to ask the installer to run Cat 5 from the Network interface to the router instead of coax. This will allow you to use a different router for the service if you choose. I've done this, and I use my trusty Linksys for my FIOS connection and have had no issues.

don't you mean 25/10?
 

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Bob Sacamano;2850022 said:
don't you mean 25/10?

The packages vary based on where you live I believe. Like here, they're 15/5, 25/15, and 50/20 depending on what you wanna pay.

I'm going to go cry in a corner now. FIOS is available literally across the street from me, but not where I live now.
 

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Ozzu;2850023 said:
The packages vary based on where you live I believe. Like here, they're 15/5, 25/15, and 50/20 depending on what you wanna pay.

I'm going to go cry in a corner now. FIOS is available literally across the street from me, but not where I live now.

dang, that's what I meant, but yeah

Verizon trumps all
 

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c0wb0y_m0nkey;2849556 said:
I've got FIOS as well for Phone and internet. The speed kicks ***, I have had very little issue with downtime. And they recently upgraded me from 15/2 service to 20/5 for no charge. I've tested it multiple times and I always get at or near the advertised speeds, which is rare for most service providers.

Any FIOS software is not strictly necessary. You should be able to ask the installer not to install it if you don't want it and it will still work fine. It's mostly 'dummy' tools to walk you through troubleshooting if your connection goes down. Saves them the cost of having you call in if you have issues.

While you should be able to configure the router to open up desired ports, be advised that Verizon will still block any ports on their end they don't want you using. Such as port 80 to prevent hosting websites. There are differing reports in different areas as to how this is handled, so your mileage may vary.

Last suggestion I will make is to ask the installer to run Cat 5 from the Network interface to the router instead of coax. This will allow you to use a different router for the service if you choose. I've done this, and I use my trusty Linksys for my FIOS connection and have had no issues.

Very interesting that they block port 80. I heard the same thing about Time Warner and Uverse but I never had any issues with my Web Server, so I will test Verizon before getting Web Hosting.

If Verizon Fios comes with a built in Firewall with their router like Uverse, I would rather use it then the Linksys Router I used when I had Time Warner.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2850022 said:
don't you mean 25/10?

I wish I did. For me 20/5 is tops unless I want to pay to upgrade into the 50Mbit range.

I'll check the website later and see if that is still the case. Maybe they've raised the minimums on me again without me knowing.

Edit: Just checked, and while they do have 25/15 available for me, it would be $12 more a month which I can't justify no matter how cool it would be.
 

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I got Verizon Fios installed today.

The tech told me that you have to use the DMZ to use Remote Desktop and HTTP. He stated that you have to get a Business Account to have the ability to open ports.

However, when I went into the Firewall, as a test, I went ahead and configured port forwarding for RDP but will have to wait until I get to work to see if the port is open or if the tech was right.

I will be disappointed if you have to use the DMZ to access the LAN from the Internet.

The speed is amazing. The tech did a speed test and said he had never seen a computer get the upload speed I got.

I am downloading a torrent right now and my upload speed is 2.8 mb/s. It is downloading at a little under 1 mb/s.

At this point, the jury is still out on Fios/Uverse for me.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2854013 said:
I got Verizon Fios installed today.

The tech told me that you have to use the DMZ to use Remote Desktop and HTTP. He stated that you have to get a Business Account to have the ability to open ports.

However, when I went into the Firewall, as a test, I went ahead and configured port forwarding for RDP but will have to wait until I get to work to see if the port is open or if the tech was right.

I will be disappointed if you have to use the DMZ to access the LAN from the Internet.

The speed is amazing. The tech did a speed test and said he had never seen a computer get the upload speed I got.

I am downloading a torrent right now and my upload speed is 2.8 mb/s. It is downloading at a little under 1 mb/s.

At this point, the jury is still out on Fios/Uverse for me.

I did a test and I'm able to serve a website from a home computer over my FIOS connection with no DMZ, just port forwarding. I wonder if they monitor usage over port 80 and block after a certain point or if they only claim to block it...
 

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c0wb0y_m0nkey;2854610 said:
I did a test and I'm able to serve a website from a home computer over my FIOS connection with no DMZ, just port forwarding. I wonder if they monitor usage over port 80 and block after a certain point or if they only claim to block it...

Alot of ISPs claim to block port 80. When I had Time Warner in Irving, they claimed they blocked it and it was open. When I moved last year and got Uverse, they said they blocked it and the port was open.

I opened up Port 3389 for Remote Desktop and I am not able to connect to my PC from work. I'm going to check a few more settings on the Router when I go home before I assume what the technician said was true.
 

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c0wb0y_m0nkey;2854610 said:
I did a test and I'm able to serve a website from a home computer over my FIOS connection with no DMZ, just port forwarding. I wonder if they monitor usage over port 80 and block after a certain point or if they only claim to block it...

Im not sure what the difference between it working in a DMZ or using port forwarding is, if they are blocking port 80 it wouldnt really matter because in either scenario people are still hitting port 80 on your IP address.
 

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theogt;2848038 said:
In terms of potential speed and bandwidth, FiOs is inherently better than Uverse, becase it's FTTH rather than FTTP, which basically means you're getting fiber right up to you house, whereas for Uverse you get it to a node, which then runs on a different line (cable or phone) to your house. That doesn't mean Uverse isn't fast, because it is.

As far as which has better service and UI for the television, I have no idea about FiOs, but I love Uverse. They even just updated the system and it's much faster.

Ditto.

I have uverse and since the latest update it has been a dream. A friend of mine has FIOS and he is not happy even though the fiber is uber fast. He says their customer service sucks and he has had inexplicable intermittent failures. He has the internet connectivity only because they don't offer TV in his area.
 

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Cowboys Monkey, what type Fios Router do you have? I have the Westell 9100.

I have looked all over the net and looked at several portforward.com articles and I still cant get Remote Desktop to work.

Uverse's router configuration software is head and shoulder better than Fios' and I have talked with 3 CSRs from Verizon and I can see why some feel they are not that great.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2855966 said:
Cowboys Monkey, what type Fios Router do you have? I have the Westell 9100.

I have looked all over the net and looked at several portforward.com articles and I still cant get Remote Desktop to work.

Uverse's router configuration software is head and shoulder better than Fios' and I have talked with 3 CSRs from Verizon and I can see why some feel they are not that great.

mick, how did you decide to go to Verizon? was it purely your idea, or did a rep talk to you?
 

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Bob Sacamano;2855970 said:
mick, how did you decide to go to Verizon? was it purely your idea, or did a rep talk to you?

Fios is the only option out here.

Right now, the speed is only thing I can brag about. Because of what I do for a living, I need to be able to connect to my PC from home.
 

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Yeagermeister;2848080 said:
No shocker

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NYC lives in West By Gawd Virginia??

That there's what we call a Hillbilly Mansion...
 

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Maikeru-sama;2855966 said:
Cowboys Monkey, what type Fios Router do you have? I have the Westell 9100.

I have looked all over the net and looked at several portforward.com articles and I still cant get Remote Desktop to work.

Uverse's router configuration software is head and shoulder better than Fios' and I have talked with 3 CSRs from Verizon and I can see why some feel they are not that great.

They sent me the actiontec router with my install, but I quickly replaced it my Linksys WRT54G with 3rd party firmware. It allows me to do a lot more things than I could with the actiontec or even the default Linksys firmware.

Did you get a static IP with your FIOS? I wanted to, but they charge for it, at least here. There is a feature in the router which allows me to keep my dynamic ip address up to date, so all I have to do is connect to home.mydomain.net from where ever I am and it will resolve back to the dynamic ip address. Keeps me from having to remember it or monitor it for change.
 

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c0wb0y_m0nkey;2856942 said:
They sent me the actiontec router with my install, but I quickly replaced it my Linksys WRT54G with 3rd party firmware. It allows me to do a lot more things than I could with the actiontec or even the default Linksys firmware.

Did you get a static IP with your FIOS? I wanted to, but they charge for it, at least here. There is a feature in the router which allows me to keep my dynamic ip address up to date, so all I have to do is connect to home.mydomain.net from where ever I am and it will resolve back to the dynamic ip address. Keeps me from having to remember it or monitor it for change.

No, I called Verizon and they said that only port 80 is blocked. They said Port 3389, which is the RDP port should be open. I have tried just about everything to get the port to open. I'm on Verizon and Portforward.com's forum trying to get some answers.

I just got back from home and I took some screen shots of my settings:

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