Vick spotted at strip club?

[Vtwin]

IF this is true....

All of that is good and well and I really do agree with you if this occurred in a vaccum. But Goodell is in a position of dictatorship and the precedent has already been set that he does not look favorably on strip club visitations by guys who have already been in trouble.

I hope this fairly harmless event doesn't come back to bite him. The fact that there is even that potential tells us it was a very stupid move.

Next question. If this is NOT true, should the ones (The Big Lead) who delivered this news be shut down for a few days as a penalty?

I hear that. That's why it will need to be up to the players and their union to end this nonsense by taking a stand. Godell has also set a precedent of going against his precedents in other cases.

To answer your question...

I don't know who could/would shut them down but I would certainly enjoy seeing them be sued to within an inch of the existence.

 

[Vtwin]

Not that there is anything wrong with that

You got that right!

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I see your point BUT

Do we really want to live in a society in which we have to avoid taking part in completely legal activites just because it is a "sore spot" with someone else?

I don't.

Then you have to factor in the hypocrisy angle. The NFL uses sex appeal to sell it's product. Sometimes the only difference between the cheerleadres half time show and the strip club dancers is 6 square inches of fabric.

If the simple fact that he attended a strip club keeps him from being reinstated then every single player in the NFL should stand up and start going to strip clubs in a high profile manner.

The man went out to have a good time and see some hot women.

Who here hasn't done that?

If Im trying to get back into the NFL, I don't visit a strip club.

He can try to change the world at some other time but right now, he needs to accept the reality of today and this reality is that the NFL has been dealing with an image problem and every little move on his part will be analyzed.

Mike PLEASE hire a proven image consultant and surround yourself with better peers.

If I was Mike Vick, as soon as I stepped out of jail I would have hired an image consultant and been doing PETA Commercials .

 

[SkinsFan28]

You got that right!

Seriously, my sister-in-law always jokes that they ought to have poles along the sidelines to help the cheerleaders do their routines. I say great idea to that!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Vick is one of those idiots that is approaching his 30's and still reps where he lives

 

[Vtwin]

If Im trying to get back into the NFL, I don't visit a strip club.

He can try to change the world at some other time but right now, he needs to accept the reality of today and this reality is that the NFL has been dealing with an image problem and every little move on his part will be analyzed.

Mike PLEASE hire a proven image consultant and surround yourself with better peers.

If I was Mike Vick, as soon as I stepped out of jail I would have hired an image consultant and been doing PETA Commercials .

I hear that and you are right as far as what M Vick should have done is concerned.

It's the hundreds of other NFL players that should be getting a bit ticked off as it could be them being smeared by the press and the league for taking part in a legal activity.

You never heard much about NFL players in strip clubs until the Pacman incident. Now "strip club" has become a hot button and as soon as it is mentioned the reporters start salivating and the wheels of "justice" start turning in Godells dungeon.

I'd love to see a league wide "make it rain" protest. Maybe Godell's head would explode.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Agent says Vick wasn't at a strip club

Posted by Mike Florio on July 23, 2009 3:28 PM ET

Earlier today, we acknowledged the burgeoning rumors and reports that quarterback Mike Vick spent his first night as a free man in the company of potentially expensive women.

But we also pointed out that we had been told that Vick denies accompanying NBA (I nearly typed "NBC," which would have been awkward) star Allen Iverson to a Virginia Beach strip club.

Adam Schefter of ESPN Future corroborates the report, via Twitter.

"Vick's agent Joel Segal to me on strip club accusations against his client: 'Absolutely patently false,'" Schefter tweeted. "Somebody has some splainin to do."

That "somebody" includes Jason McIntyre of the Big Lead, who apparently broke the news Wednesday night, citing multiple sources.

Though this doesn't create quite the same negative stigma as the erroneous reports of positive draft prospect drug results from NFLDraftBible.com, we think the Big Lead needs to come up with some conclusive proof -- or to find a way to wedge the genie back into the bottle.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Meh.....who cares

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Meh.....who cares

my thoughts exactly, little buddy

 

[Yeagermeister]

my thoughts exactly, little buddy

Little Buddy?

That would make you the Skipper

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Little Buddy?

That would make you the Skipper

Im sailing away, set an open course for the virgin sea
Ive got to be free, free to face the life thats ahead of me
On board, Im the captain, so climb aboard
Well search for tomorrow on every shore
And Ill try, oh lord, Ill try to carry on

I look to the sea, reflections in the waves spark my memory
Some happy, some sad
I think of childhood friends and the dreams we had
We live happily forever, so the story goes
But somehow we missed out on that pot of gold
But well try best that we can to carry on

A gathering of angels appeared above my head
They sang to me this song of hope, and this is what they said
They said come sail away, come sail away
Come sail away with me
Come sail away, come sail away
Come sail away with me

I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise
They climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies
Singing come sail away, come sail away
Come sail away with me
Come sail away, come sail away
Come sail away with me

 

[Doomsday101]

I hear that and you are right as far as what M Vick should have done is concerned.

It's the hundreds of other NFL players that should be getting a bit ticked off as it could be them being smeared by the press and the league for taking part in a legal activity.

You never heard much about NFL players in strip clubs until the Pacman incident. Now "strip club" has become a hot button and as soon as it is mentioned the reporters start salivating and the wheels of "justice" start turning in Godells dungeon.

I'd love to see a league wide "make it rain" protest. Maybe Godell's head would explode.

Strip clubs have been on the radar screen well before Pacman. Irvin and some of the other Cowboys players found trouble at these places that is where the woman who accused Irvin and Williams of rape was working. It is a legal activity it is also a place that trouble is waiting for high profile rich stupid young players. If you or I went into one of those place no one pays attention to you if you are high profile big money guy you will attract many who will do you harm. Every year the talk that is given to rookies at the symposium covers strip clubs and normally talks about those who have been there and done that are the one warning them.

Goodell is only trying to help clean up an image and has the support of many players who went to him to begin with about cleaning up the image of the league.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Hug your family.

Play ball with your children.

But the first thing this dumb mother ****** does, is goes straight to a strip club.

 

[burmafrd]

It just continues to show bad judgement and cluelessness.
VTwin you might remember that the PLAYERS called for the commissioner to be tough to clean out the thug element. And there has been no indication of any kind of backtracking on that from the players. So frankly you are whistling in the wind. Playing in the NFL is a privledge not a right. You sign a contract indicating that you accept that you are going to be held to a higher standard of conduct then normal people. I really doubt that the next CBA will change much at all of the way the Commissioner does things since from all evidence most of the players approve=you know, the 90%+ who don't go to strip clubs, etc.

 

[peplaw06]

I think he's completely off paper now.

He's no longer part of the system.

Also, I read he was with AI and AI's wife.

He's almost assuredly on Supervised Release. That's a post release probationary period the feds use. Florio alluded to this.

Of course I'm not sure of all the terms, but most probationary terms state that you are to "avoid places of disreputable or harmful character," and to avoid places that sell alcohol. If his terms have this, he could have violated his SR.

But the chances of seeing something come of this are slim.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He's almost assuredly on Supervised Release. That's a post release probationary period the feds use. Florio alluded to this.

Of course I'm not sure of all the terms, but most probationary terms state that you are to "avoid places of disreputable or harmful character," and to avoid places that sell alcohol. If his terms have this, he could have violated his SR.

But the chances of seeing something come of this are slim.

usually avoidance of alcohol provisions are reserved for sex offenders, and substance abuse persons, so I doubt that was included in his release

being unable to consort with criminals is probably definitely apart of his probation, or parole, but those don't include strip-clubs

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Ok while it isn't illegal, and honestly shouldn't be a big deal on most occassions, for Mike Vick this is a dumb move simply because of the uphill battle he's going to be fighting to get back into the league and clean up his image.

There is no reason for all the players in the NFL who go to strip clubs to fear being smeared, or given issue, because loads of them do it all the time and it doesn't make front page news. Why? Because those guys go to strip clubs and somehow manage to do so without starting fights, riots, making it rain, or whatever other nonesense that can get them in trouble. Also, to my knowledge, none of those other guys are just comiing off 2 years out of the league, and in jail, for operating a dog fighting ring.

That's the huge difference here. I don't think the NFL has an issue with their players going to these places as long as they conduct themselves in an approperiate manner. The problem is that they've got a few guys, here and there, who can't seem to go out to places without causing stupid trouble doing stupid things.

If Vick wasn't fighting this uphill battle to get back into the league right now then this likely wouldn't have made a single blip on the radar.

 

[tyke1doe]

Well as Pac Man Jones said, "Aint nutin wrong with a Scripp Club."

 

[stilltheguru]

It's a strip club. How the hell is that a stupid move? Let the man have fun. I bet nobody on this site ever spent a year in prison, but got an opinion on everything.

 

[peplaw06]

usually avoidance of alcohol provisions are reserved for sex offenders, and substance abuse persons, so I doubt that was included in his release

being unable to consort with criminals is probably definitely apart of his probation, or parole, but those don't include strip-clubs

In every single judgment I've seen with probation terms, the "avoid places or persons of disreputable or harmful character" clause is in the first 2 or 3 terms. That's legalese for stay the hell out of bars and clubs.